"The Savage Peace": Post-WWII Retaliation against Minoritys
BartSimpson @ Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:09 pm
Full title: BBC: "The Savage Peace": Post-WWII Retaliation against Minorities
It's a pretty horrific one-hour video about what happened to the Germans after WW2. Echoes of the book, "Other Losses". FYI - lots of film of Soviet and other atrocities against the Germans.
ShepherdsDog @ Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:30 pm
Due to an error, the German border was pushed back further to the west while making up for the Polish territorial losses to the Russians. They used the wrong river and millions of Germans who had lived there for centuries were forced out by the Poles.
That being said, too fucking bad....you lost....again.
BartSimpson @ Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:33 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Due to an error, the German border was pushed back further to the west while making up for the Polish territorial losses to the Russians. They used the wrong river and millions of Germans who had lived there for centuries were forced out by the Poles
The 'error' was the Potsdam Agreement and letting the fucking Russians keep the parts of Poland that they stole at the outset of the war. It's a fucking crime that the West allied itself with one of the aggressors who started the war.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/19 ... tsdam-conf
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One of the most controversial matters addressed at the Potsdam Conference dealt with the revision of the German-Soviet-Polish borders and the expulsion of several million Germans from the disputed territories. In exchange for the territory it lost to the Soviet Union following the readjustment of the Soviet-Polish border, Poland received a large swath of German territory and began to deport the German residents of the territories in question, as did other nations that were host to large German minority populations. The negotiators at Potsdam were well-aware of the situation, and even though the British and Americans feared that a mass exodus of Germans into the western occupation zones would destabilize them, they took no action other than to declare that “any transfers that take place should be effected in an orderly and humane manner” and to request that the Poles, Czechoslovaks and Hungarians temporarily suspend additional deportations.
Thanos @ Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:58 pm
It was ugly but the expulsions it also put a permanent end to the German/Polish/Ukrainian/Russian bloodshed that had gone on for centuries. Nasty part of the world, too often like the Balkans with the unrelenting ethnic and religious hatreds. Oddly enough, even though they lost millions of dead in the war, by 1950 Germany was the only central European country to experience a net population gain due to the arriving Germanic refugees replacing those killed in the war.
martin14 @ Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:17 pm
Thanos Thanos:
It was ugly but the expulsions it also put a permanent end to the German/Polish/Ukrainian/Russian bloodshed that had gone on for centuries. Nasty part of the world, too often like the Balkans with the unrelenting ethnic and religious hatreds. Oddly enough, even though they lost millions of dead in the war, by 1950 Germany was the only central European country to experience a net population gain due to the arriving Germanic refugees replacing those killed in the war.
Shhh, you can't say that.
Putting one group of people on one side, another group on the other side.
It worked. Oh the horror of it all.
11 million Germans got kicked home after the war, from the Baltics
down to Yugoslavia. And peace for 70 years.
BartSimpson @ Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:49 pm
martin14 martin14:
Thanos Thanos:
It was ugly but the expulsions it also put a permanent end to the German/Polish/Ukrainian/Russian bloodshed that had gone on for centuries. Nasty part of the world, too often like the Balkans with the unrelenting ethnic and religious hatreds. Oddly enough, even though they lost millions of dead in the war, by 1950 Germany was the only central European country to experience a net population gain due to the arriving Germanic refugees replacing those killed in the war.
Shhh, you can't say that.
Putting one group of people on one side, another group on the other side.
It worked. Oh the horror of it all.
11 million Germans got kicked home after the war, from the Baltics
down to Yugoslavia. And peace for 70 years.
Now we need to do it with the friggin' Muslims.
herbie @ Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:19 pm
Good documentary.
One almost feels sorry for them.