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Harper was trying to hide from his previous words during the election. His final way of weaselling out of it was saying that we didn't have any troops to send. That was an evasion of the issue though. If Harper had been PM when Iraq started he would have had troops and he would have sent them to Iraq.

For your part, Godz, you've tried to evade the fact that peacekeeping requires different equipment and different training than illegally invading countries for their resources. Tanks are not required for peacekeeping, helicopters need to be equipped differently.

Nobody is saying that our military doesn't need to be rebuilt. What we are saying is that rebuilding it to suit the needs of the US, as Harper so clearly wants to do, is a poor use of our resources; does not match what Canadians want from their military; and actually endangers Canada by getting us involved in conflicts that breed nothing but hatred. If that's what you want from your military, you are living in the wrong country.

   

Avro
First of all like I said in a previous posting if the fire had hit the battery room there would be medals handed out.
Secondly I really don’t need your ok to talk about a subject when and where I choose.
Third if you had ever served in any branch of the service (which I am sure YOU haven’t) for any country you would have recognized gallows humor when you read it.
And lastly if you took that approach to the equipment that we put our lads in you would never be able to talk about any branch of the service.
Ask the 57 dead airmen that flew the CF 18'S
So grow up and do what ours good lads do SUCK IT UP!

   

Actually the poll was twisted...it tied missile defense to an unrelated issue. You should do some more research...it's important.

Actually the question was, "Would you have sent troops to Iraq." It wasn;t much of a question because he'd already been attacking the Liberals for wanting no part of Georgie's illegal invasion.



That doesn't match what military analysts all over the world say. Equipment and training (you cannon fodder proponents always skip the training part) is different for different tasks. Peacekeeping is much different than bombing the crap out of women and kids like Georgie likes to do, so different equipment is required. Are you going to tell me that you're smarter than military professionals all over the planet now, Godz?





Again, you are ignoring the facts because they don't fit your delusional little worldview. They needed to take over Iraq because other interests already had signed contracts. There is no way they could have just taken over the oil without an invasion.



I think you should have at least checked the NDP site to see what their actual proposed policies are. I guess it's easier for you to make shit up though.



Canada is a middle power. A "Canada First" military would have to be huge and would require massive funding. We cannot afford that. Given Canada's place on the world stage there is no reason why we'd want to afford it, either. We have no imperial ambitions and deal with the rest of the world through trade and aid. As a result we are well thought of and carry more influence than our size would indicate. Being sold some fairy tale by Stephen Harper, doesn't make Canada suddenly larger or wealthier or more inclined to kill people for their resources, it just shows the depths of Harper's (and by extension your own) depravity.



CSIS and the RCMP have said all sorts of things over the years. You should look into what the RCMP said about the FLQ back in the seventies. That was drastically wrong too. You are simply promoting your own bigoted views again though...that all Muslims are evil and want to kill us. We know you're full of crap on that particular subject and that much of what you type could easily be considered hate literature, so drop it.

   

UN global balony missions? Once again, please cite an example. And then you will have to explain why this global balony mission is less important than Iraq.

Do much reading Godz? Like, any at all? I read a GREAT book last year that I thing you would like. It's full of Canadian Millitary stuff, and a little UN stuff... it's called Shake Hands with the Devil The failure of humanity in Rwanda. It is written by one Canadian LGen Romeo Dallaire. Get a copy. I'd send you mine but I like it too much. Even part of my signature is taken right out of that book.

   

That is a great book Robair. I intend to read it again just as soon as I finish Linda McQuaig's new one, "It's the Crude, Dude." You should pick up a copy of that too, Godz.

   

Nope, there have been plenty of valid ones. That isn't one of them though. It was an attempt by Can-West to skew things.



You are still missing the point...being purposely obtuse. Harper lacked the moral courage and understanding of international politics and Canada's place in it to stay out of Iraq. That is very clear by statements he made when the war was starting. That also is not the question he was asked time and again by the press, one that he never did answer because he knew the Canadian people did not agree with him.





Each country has a right to protect itself. No country has the right to unilaterally invade another. What did or didn't do has absolutely no bearing on international law and international law is what applies because...and you can check this on a map...Iraq is not part of the United States.



Thay already had existing contracts. I realise that this is complicated for you, but a contract is a legal document and must be honoured. There are international tribunals that decide disputes like this and the US didn't have a case.



Your arrogance matches your ignorance.



Are those letters signed by the NDP? I thought not. There are some in the NDP that would scrap the military, but very few. If you want to know the NDP's policy, check their web-site.



Sorry, that don't cut it. I have a backstage pass. What you are saying is wrong, you refuse to check the facts that will prove to that it's wrong, and you keep spouting the smae erroneous message. That's called willful ignorance, Godz. It leads to massive and purposeful stupidity. You are a perfect example of that.



So you would have a massive army, roughly the same tax burden we carry now, and no social programs. You may want to live in a country like that, but I like it here in the first world.



You are again missing the point. I've explained this before, but you didn't get it then either. When it comes to cooperating with many diverse nations at once, working through multi-lateral institutions, and helping other countries through trade and aid deals, Canada is second to none. Most countries with our wealth tie strings to trade and aid deals, most countries of our size do not belong to a plethora of multi-lateral institutions. That isn't as strong as it used to be before Mulroney tried to turn us into a sattelite of the US, but it is still very real.



You misquoted so badly that time that your response does not make sense in the context of the quote. France is very much seen as an imperialist force, especially in Africa. Germany and Japan are more often accused of economic imperialism, not without reason. History dictates that they cannot get away with what other countries do though. Again, you need to gain a grasp or world politics.



So we need a huge army to fight terrorism? The biggest army in the world couldn't catch bin Laden and can't gain control of Iraq. Why would we want to be like them?

   

So instead of removing land mines, supporting the red cross, and keeping the peace, we should be starting a war, killing civilians, and helping turn Iraq into a radioactive waste dump??

Please explain your logic.

   

There is no logic behind it, Robair. It is just a mindless repetition of policies proven to be harmful to the entire world over and over again.

   

Indeed, we should...

   

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