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What the actual fuck? So anything but a Vic classic is basically banned now?

Go fuck yourselves CITT.

Six random unelected dickbags just determined what is illegal in Canada, apparently completely ignoring the criminal code definition of prohibited weapons.

   

These have always been illegal. Anything that is meant to be a weapon, and not a tool.



Seems pretty reasonable to me. Knives as tools, good. Knives as weapons, bad.

   

Not really. Most tools can readily be used, and have been used, as weapons.

   

But they are still meant to be tools. A butterfly knife is not meant to be a tool, it is meant as a weapon. "Intent" is always a factor in the law, eg: using a hammer as a weapon is different than using a faux Katana.

That said, I wonder why a sword disguised as as cane is legal.

   

Butterfly knives are fun. I've never actually seen one use as a weapon. Growing up, most of us used butterfly knives the way younger kids used yoyos--to learn new tricks and show off.

The knives pictured in the article don't look like much in the way of weapons to me, but then one man's tool is another's weapon.

   

How about a registry and a safety course first before you're allowed to carry? Here's some class material they could use.

   

Doesn't apply because of the bolded part
This is the one in question. The current ruling changes the definition of this. In the past it was applied to a closed knife, i.e. if a knife is closed and you could flick it open, it was considered a centrifugal knife. Now, they've changed it so that if it has been opened part way, and can be flicked open. This is virtually every folding knife on the market. Hell the classic buck 110 could probably be flicked open.

that would make these now banned:


Wrong. Below is a previous CBSA ruling allowing assisted knives to be imported. The change just happened to not allow them, based on a ruling from the CITT. A knife is only a weapon when used as such, or carried with that intention, otherwise it should default as a tool.


That knife by their definition is now banned. It is no more a weapon than the buck 110 is, so why should one be banned and not the other?

What does that even mean? How is a thumb stud supposed to be used if it can't protrude above the handle? Or is this just a shit description by stupid bureaucrats who have never carried a knife in their lives.

   

We aren't talking about butterfly knives. We are talking about everyday folding knives.

   

The Buck (in my experience) needs two hands to open. At least, all of mine, and my old Timer need that. The Kershaw can be opened with the thumb using the protruding stud.

I agree that arbitrariness in interpreting law is vile, but I can at least see the intent of it. It's a matter of the 'red veil'. When you are angry, it's much harder to whip out your Buck and lock the blade. The Kershaw just needs a simple thumb flick, and out it comes.

I sometimes carry an old Henkell 'Swiss' Army knife. It is not easy to get any implement out of that thing, so it's therefore a tool, not a weapon. There seems to be a lot of grey area in the knife industry as to what the knife is for. I see your anger, and I don't agree with the ruling, but I understand it.

   

I can get my Buck knife open fairly quickly with one hand but it's still a long way off from being as versatile and instantly put to lethal use as rapidly as a butterfly knife or switchblade can be.

   

The buck can be opened if it's loosened, any knife can.
Anyone who carries the same knive every day is able to open a knife in split seconds. It's muscle memory.

The speed of which something comes out should never determine if it's a weapon or not, that's nonsense. That would mean any fixed blade knife is a weapon. Because it's always immediately available. It is the intent that matters. I carry a pocket knife every day with no intention of using it as a weapon. It is there to cut things, I use it every day. Am I expected to stop carrying this because 6 old fuckers who don't understand the difference between a flipper and an auto said it's bad? That's fucking ridiculous.

   

Butterfly knives and switchblades have been illegal for a while, those aren't under discussion.

   

Same here. I've got a classic buck knife like that and it needs to hands to open. Ironically, the knives I'm supposed to use at my work would be banned now as they can be flicked open one-handed.

   

I'm sure Kirpans are still just fine to wear in the open.

See, you just need to convert, be more multikulti.

   

So if you can open it half way, and flick the rest of the way open, illegal.

What kind of bullshit is that?

   

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