Australia experiences hottest day on record and its worst ev
uwish @ Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:37 am
they have some nice HP 480 G calculators on sale...
more lies, it was still warmer in the 30's
Martin15 @ Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:45 am
This is the clickbait the DM leads you into their article on it...
Worth it. 
DrCaleb @ Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:55 am
uwish uwish:
they have some nice HP 480 G calculators on sale...
more lies, it was still warmer in the 30's
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMPu7msV-D7xMq07SBqKfK_ZUNGUJFkOGFxsRk5
more lies, it was still warmer in the 30's
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMPu7msV-D7xMq07SBqKfK_ZUNGUJFkOGFxsRk5
They had 404 errors in the 1930s! Wow!
DrCaleb @ Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:57 am
Here. try a link that actually works:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/updates/a ... ture.shtml
N_Fiddledog @ Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:04 pm
Here's something from a different Australian:
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Remember the infamous Climategate emails, and in particular the ‘Harry read me files’? Harry, working at the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, wrote:
Getting seriously fed up with the state of the Australian data. so many new stations have been introduced, so many false references … so many changes that aren’t documented. Every time a cloud forms I’m presented with a bewildering selection of similar-sounding sites, some with references, some with WMO codes, and some with both. And if I look up the station metadata with one of the local references, chances are the WMO code will be wrong (another station will have it) and the latitude/longitude will be wrong too.
For years, the Australian Bureau of Meteorology has been capitalizing on the mess that by its very nature throws up ‘discontinuities’ that can subsequently be ‘homogenized’ … so Blair Trewin is obliged to apply algorithms, to ensure every reconstruction shows steadily rising temperatures in accordance with theory.
As Christopher Booker explained some years ago:
What is tragically evident from the Harry Read Me file is the picture it gives of the CRU scientists hopelessly at sea with the complex computer programmes they had devised to contort their data in the approved direction, more than once expressing their own desperation at how difficult it was to get the desired results.
In short, Phil Jones at the Climatic Research Unit in the UK, Gavin Schmidt at GISS NASA in New York, and even David Jones at the Australian Bureau in Melbourne have overseen the reworking of climate data until it fits the theory of catastrophic anthropogenic climate change (AGW).
Getting seriously fed up with the state of the Australian data. so many new stations have been introduced, so many false references … so many changes that aren’t documented. Every time a cloud forms I’m presented with a bewildering selection of similar-sounding sites, some with references, some with WMO codes, and some with both. And if I look up the station metadata with one of the local references, chances are the WMO code will be wrong (another station will have it) and the latitude/longitude will be wrong too.
For years, the Australian Bureau of Meteorology has been capitalizing on the mess that by its very nature throws up ‘discontinuities’ that can subsequently be ‘homogenized’ … so Blair Trewin is obliged to apply algorithms, to ensure every reconstruction shows steadily rising temperatures in accordance with theory.
As Christopher Booker explained some years ago:
What is tragically evident from the Harry Read Me file is the picture it gives of the CRU scientists hopelessly at sea with the complex computer programmes they had devised to contort their data in the approved direction, more than once expressing their own desperation at how difficult it was to get the desired results.
In short, Phil Jones at the Climatic Research Unit in the UK, Gavin Schmidt at GISS NASA in New York, and even David Jones at the Australian Bureau in Melbourne have overseen the reworking of climate data until it fits the theory of catastrophic anthropogenic climate change (AGW).
In other words old weather records from Australia are untrustworthy if not useless so whether or not what happened this year is 'record-breaking' in relation to say 1890 is meaningless.
However horrible disasters of Australian heatwaves have been recorded for some time so we know hot, dry weather did not start in Australia just because they started driving cars or some such nonsense.
PluggyRug @ Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:48 pm
Well, what a computer does not know, it does not know. So much for climate models.
BartSimpson @ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:14 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Imagine the heat records they will set once Summer arrives!
Summer arrived in Oz on December 21.
DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:54 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Imagine the heat records they will set once Summer arrives!
Summer arrived in Oz on December 21.
And no end to the hot dry weather in sight.
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Bureau of Meteorology Australian Capital Territory (@BOM_ACT)
#Canberra has reached 43.6C—a new hottest temperature record for any month. The previous Canberra records are 42.2C at Canberra Airport in 1968 and 42.8C at the now-closed Acton site in 1939. Observations at: https://t.co/8mMXbj9VGR
January 4, 2020
Australian heatwave: Canberra and Penrith smash temperature records that stood for 80 years
2019 was Australia’s hottest and driest year on record
I have a colleague who just got back from 3 weeks in Eastern Australia, and she says it's pretty bad in Melbourne and Sydney. Constant smoke, no rain, everything is tinder dry and everyone is on evacuation warning. And every wild animal is suffering from the lack of rain.
BartSimpson @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:56 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Imagine the heat records they will set once Summer arrives!
Summer arrived in Oz on December 21.
And no end to the hot dry weather in sight.
You really need to check the local weather before posting such things.
https://www.google.com/search?q=austral ... e&ie=UTF-8
Thunderstorms and rain in Sydney right now.
The ten day forecast is mild summer temps, rain, and clouds.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Sy ... 701ba6213e
BartSimpson @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:58 am
Also to correct the "no end in sight" to the dry weather is this article headline from yesterday's Express:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/12 ... rain-radar
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Australia fires: Huge RAIN BOMB brings hope as hundreds of fires still burn across Oz
AUSTRALIA has been devastated by ravaging fires and extreme heat over the last few months. But weather forecasts for heavy rainfall over the next few days have brought some hopes of respite to Australians.
AUSTRALIA has been devastated by ravaging fires and extreme heat over the last few months. But weather forecasts for heavy rainfall over the next few days have brought some hopes of respite to Australians.
DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:05 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You really need to check the local weather before posting such things.
https://www.google.com/search?q=austral ... e&ie=UTF-8
Thunderstorms and rain in Sydney right now.
The ten day forecast is mild summer temps, rain, and clouds.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Sy ... 701ba6213e
https://www.google.com/search?q=austral ... e&ie=UTF-8
Thunderstorms and rain in Sydney right now.
The ten day forecast is mild summer temps, rain, and clouds.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Sy ... 701ba6213e
You keep skipping between opposites, like 'global' and 'local' or 'weather' and 'climate'. You should really lash that down.
Fire season doesn't end till May, so we'll see if these storms end their years long drought.
CharlesAnthony @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:08 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
You keep skipping between opposites,
That is the point of all this media hysteria. As long as the audience is not discussing the holocaust-culling of poor Australians, then it does not matter what the loud-mouths skip.
BartSimpson @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:33 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
You keep skipping between opposites, like 'global' and 'local' or 'weather' and 'climate'.
Like Hell I am. You said no end to the hot dry weather in Australia and the reality is that it already ended.
DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:35 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
You keep skipping between opposites, like 'global' and 'local' or 'weather' and 'climate'.
Like Hell I am. You said no end to the hot dry weather in Australia and the reality is that it already ended.
Again, fire season in Australia ends in May, and one rainstorm does not reverse years of drought.
N_Fiddledog @ Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:02 am
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4. Australia’s mainland experienced far more pervasive fire during the 1800s to early 1900s, or the Little Ice Age. There has been an abrupt decline in fire activity for the entire Australasian region in the last 50 years (Mooney et al., 2011).
Image Source: Mooney et al., 2011
5. The “assumed positive relationship between drier climates and biomass burning” is not supported by wetter Little Ice Age climates coeval with more burned area in Australia (Tibby et al., 2018).
Image Source: Tibby et al., 2018
6. Australia, like the globe, has neither become wetter or drier over the last 3 decades. There is “no evidence” global precipitation patterns have been been altered by global or regional temperature changes (Nguyen et al., 2018).
Image Source: Nguyen et al., 2018
Image Source: Nguyen et al., 2018
To summarize, the scientific literature does not lend support to claims fires in Australia are connected to warming, rising CO2 emissions, dry climates, or wet climates.
Image Source: Mooney et al., 2011
5. The “assumed positive relationship between drier climates and biomass burning” is not supported by wetter Little Ice Age climates coeval with more burned area in Australia (Tibby et al., 2018).
Image Source: Tibby et al., 2018
6. Australia, like the globe, has neither become wetter or drier over the last 3 decades. There is “no evidence” global precipitation patterns have been been altered by global or regional temperature changes (Nguyen et al., 2018).
Image Source: Nguyen et al., 2018
Image Source: Nguyen et al., 2018
To summarize, the scientific literature does not lend support to claims fires in Australia are connected to warming, rising CO2 emissions, dry climates, or wet climates.
https://www.climatedepot.com/
Oh and I don't care who gathered the links to those studies. The studies are either real and say what's claimed or they don't.
If they don't, by all means tell me. If they do, they say nothing is happening to suggest climate (and this time take your own advise Doctor Data and notice I said climate and not weather) is changing in a way that starts more fires in Australia.