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Canada sending troops to UN peacekeeping mission in Mali

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Jabberwalker @ Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:28 am

The Gryphons become escorting "helicopter gunships" by slapping weapons pods on them that our traditionally minimalist CAF probably don't possess. If the RCAF have them in an armoury somewhere, they may be too heavy for equitorial flight. That leaves our "escorting gunships" having a couple of 50 Cals sticking out of the side doors, at best. This is the wrong helicopter to send into battle in Africa.

Norway, maybe.

... if the Americans or British are nearby to escort our escorts with Apaches.

It's a publicity stunt.

What a waste of already thinly spread CAF resources.

Trooper needs new boots. Navy needs new "boats".

   



bootlegga @ Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:59 am

Thanos wrote:
Hope you're right. The ego of Canadian politicians seems incredibly resistant to the fact that peacekeeping does no good in a fight where at least one side behaves like psychotics and has no intention of adhering to cease-fires or of leaving defenseless civilians alone. This should have been learned, but apparently hasn't been, in the bloodbaths in Rwanda and Bosnia. It'll be nothing but an obscenity if any Canadians get killed just so the Liberals can crow about "Lester Pearson's greatest legacy to the world" one more time.


* fingers crossed

   



bootlegga @ Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:24 am

martin14 wrote:
I wonder who gets to protect our forces on the ground.....


Odds are part of that contingent will be a ground security element, just like we had in Bahrain during the Desert Storm in 1991.

   



BRAH @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:11 pm

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Harjit Sajjan the architect of this Peacekeeping mission has selective memory. :roll:

   



Jabberwalker @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:00 pm

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Harjit Sajjan the architect of this Peacekeeping mission has selective memory. :roll:

I always thought that the photo proved to the world that the Serbs are lower than dog shit, myself.

   



herbie @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:31 pm

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I always thought that the photo proved to the world that the Serbs are lower than dog shit, myself.

No kidding. And of course, no fucking mention of Medak pocket because it would deride the usual anti_Trudeau, anti-UN, anti-peacekeeping, gov't can't learn anything ever, obstructionist at any cost cuz we're pale imitators of US Republicans mouthpieces.

Canada’s allies frustrated with Trudeau handling of Mali peacekeeping announcement
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They anonymously say the government failed to explain that the mission is both necessary and that the Canadians will be relatively safe, compared to the thousands of other peacekeepers working in Mali.
They fear the government has allowed incorrect information to spread unchallenged, threatening to undermine Canadian public support for what they say is a critical contribution to the UN peacekeeping effort in the West African nation.

   



BRAH @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:34 pm

Jabberwalker wrote:
BRAH wrote:
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Harjit Sajjan the architect of this Peacekeeping mission has selective memory. :roll:

I always thought that the photo proved to the world that the Serbs are lower than dog shit, myself.

U.S. Urges Quick Balkan Solution as Serbs Reject Kosovo Army
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Serbia and other western Balkan states seeking to join the European Union should seize the opportunity to settle disputes, including over the forming of an army in Kosovo that Serbs staunchly oppose, a top U.S. diplomat said.

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State A. Wess Mitchell, on a visit to Belgrade, praised an already existing force of 4,000 lightly armed soldiers in mostly ethnic-Albanian Kosovo and told Serbs they shouldn’t see it as a threat. Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said there were no grounds to establish the army. He argued that Kosovo became a protectorate under a UN Security Council resolution in 1999 that ended a war over the territory.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-14/u-s-urges-quick-balkan-solution-as-serbs-reject-kosovo-army
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The Serbs are still the World's red-headed step child and this could mean PM Selfie's Peacekeeping Missions will not just be in Mali because Canada is Back! :roll:

   



Jabberwalker @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:36 pm

The World bled itsself dry over the Serbs in the twentieth century. Let them drown in their own excrement.

   



BRAH @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:38 pm

herbie wrote:
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I always thought that the photo proved to the world that the Serbs are lower than dog shit, myself.

No kidding. And of course, no fucking mention of Medak pocket because it would deride the usual anti_Trudeau, anti-UN, anti-peacekeeping, gov't can't learn anything ever, obstructionist at any cost cuz we're pale imitators of US Republicans mouthpieces.

Canada’s allies frustrated with Trudeau handling of Mali peacekeeping announcement
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They anonymously say the government failed to explain that the mission is both necessary and that the Canadians will be relatively safe, compared to the thousands of other peacekeepers working in Mali.
They fear the government has allowed incorrect information to spread unchallenged, threatening to undermine Canadian public support for what they say is a critical contribution to the UN peacekeeping effort in the West African nation.

Operation Medak Pocket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Medak_Pocket

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Thanos @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:45 pm

Jabberwalker wrote:
The World bled otsself dry over the Serbs in the twentieth century. Let them drown in their own excrement.


Understandable sentiment. The reality of Yugoslavia though, same with much of the rest of eastern Europe, is that there really are no "good guys" there to get behind. We forgot a lot of this while they were under the heel of the Soviet Union during the Cold War, but the history of really atrocious behaviour in the region goes back hundreds of centuries and is pretty much evenly divided among all the ethnic groups and religion divisions. Bismarck was right, anyone who wastes a drop of their own blood in that insane place is just a goddamn fool.

   



BRAH @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:01 pm

Canada aims to deploy peacekeepers in Mali by August: Sajjan

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OTTAWA – The Canadian military is aiming to have peacekeepers on the ground in Mali by August, according to Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan.

On March 19 the federal government announced its intention to send peacekeeping troops and an aviation task force to the UN mission in Mali for a year-long deployment.

"We're looking at right now this summer, we’re aiming for August," Sajjan told host Evan Solomon in an interview on CTV's Question Period airing Sunday. "The goal is to actually have the rotation in place, around that time."

According to the United Nations, there have been 162 multinational peacekeeper fatalities since the mission began in 2013.


https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-aims-to-deploy-peacekeepers-in-mali-by-august-sajjan-1.3856565
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Jabberwalker @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:26 pm

I think that Sajjan should lead from the front, don't you?

   



Freakinoldguy @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:40 pm

herbie wrote:
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I always thought that the photo proved to the world that the Serbs are lower than dog shit, myself.

No kidding. And of course, no fucking mention of Medak pocket because it would deride the usual anti_Trudeau, anti-UN, anti-peacekeeping, gov't can't learn anything ever, obstructionist at any cost cuz we're pale imitators of US Republicans mouthpieces.

Canada’s allies frustrated with Trudeau handling of Mali peacekeeping announcement
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They anonymously say the government failed to explain that the mission is both necessary and that the Canadians will be relatively safe, compared to the thousands of other peacekeepers working in Mali.
They fear the government has allowed incorrect information to spread unchallenged, threatening to undermine Canadian public support for what they say is a critical contribution to the UN peacekeeping effort in the West African nation.


And where are these safer area's they're speaking about because "relatively safe" is a relative term.

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"Following French/African military intervention in Mali in January 2013, there is a high threat of retaliatory kidnap or attack against Western interests, especially in areas north of Mopti, though the threat exists throughout the country. There have been a number of recent bomb attacks in Gao, Kidal, Timbuktu and In Khalil. Further attacks are likely.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news ... -to-visit/

I could care less what talking heads at the UN claim because, if the truth be known they'd sell their sisters to get any help they could in trying to fix the problems the previous US Administration helped create in Mali.

So, despite their assertions that the Canadians will be "safer" than some of the other troops it's still not all that reassuring. Especially when you consider it's pretty much like equating a trooper manning the wire with the guy in the command bunker. When the shit hits the fan and they're getting overrun both of them are likely to end up in a body bag because the enemy doesn't discriminate over job descriptions.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:43 pm

Jabberwalker wrote:
I think that Sajjan should lead from the front, don't you?



R=UP

The only problem with that would be we'd have to continually listen to him explain how he discovered Sub Saharan Africa. :wink:

   



BRAH @ Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:41 pm

Jabberwalker wrote:
I think that Sajjan should lead from the front, don't you?

If he's bringing pizza.

   



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