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And if we did that the excuse for huge increases in Canada would be that we HAD to fill in the supply gap and trade rules specify we can't sell it to ourselves for less. Just climbing a different pant leg to stick our tongue up the oil companies' ass.

Remember to go out and vote Oct 19th for your free democratic choice of who pretends to run the country.

   

BTW as of today ppl in the Lower Mainland are paying 40 cents a litre more than we do because of that 17 cents extra transit tax.

   

What do you base that on, exactly?




It's actually October 21st. And don't worry, I intend to vote for the party (and leader) that will actually DO something.

-J.

   

Good, and they can suck it too. Virtue signalling comes with it's own costs. Don't want to pay extra? Then there's a lot of people in that neck of the woods who really need to climb down off that holier-than-thou pedestal they keep scrambling to get on top of.

   

Use that term at one of their protests, you're likely to get a punch in the head. After all these years of discussion you seem to think taking all the risk to reap none of the rewards is 'virtue signalling' that they're obligated to do shit a lot of them don't want to?
Part of the capitalist brainwash that makes you feel like you ARE a major corporation and not some working shmuck like the guy beside you... that the Conservatives are gonna stand up for YOU against the corporations? That voting Liberal and then Tory over and over for a century and a half is suddenly gonna yeild a different result?

   

I'm not a capitalist. I just know an enemy when I see one, and I'm not going to do anything but laugh at them when their own self-serving bullshit routine turns and bites them on the ass.

   

Saudi Arabia says oil output back to normal soon; crude prices plunge

https://www.statesman.com/zz/news/20190 ... ces-plunge

Saudi Arabia has restored half of the crude production that was lost to devastating attacks on its oil industry, and the kingdom said output will be fully restored by the end of this month.

   

Too bad the Iranians didn't use one of their nukes on that place.

   

Don't give them any ideas

   

As per movie-Thanos, it is inevitable.

This is the era of the untergang, the downfall, the akallabeth, of man's arrogance and hubris. Not via divine punishment, or any of that other biblical horseshit. It's merely happening from sheer mass stupidity being cleverly manipulated by cunning greed, selfishness, mania, and outright evil. The only way things will get better, if such a thing is even possible anymore, will be from the harsh lessons to be taught by a massive global catastrophe. As per Will Munny, we all got it comin', kid.

   

Bollocks. Here was me thinking the oil price might stay up for a while and give Newfoundland the faint ray of hope for a future.

   

Do the smart and hip and oh-so-scolding wise folk of Canada, those verifiable geniuses from such well-run (and absolutely 100% debt-free) provinces like Ontario, Quebec, and BC, give the Newfies who work in oil & gas the same moralizing grief about how "they should have saved some money instead of spending it all on toys" the way they do to Albertans? Just asking, but really don't care.

   

I haven't been following this thread, but gas near my home was 1.06$ about 2 weeks ago. Today it was 1.05$.

   

Been around 95.9/96.9 in Calgary for most of the week. A small handful of stations jacked it up to 105.9 but it didn't last as most of the others didn't go along with it.

   

Iran diplomat warns of ‘all-out war’ if hit for Saudi attack

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran’s foreign minister warned Thursday that any attack on his country over a drone-and-missile strike on Saudi Arabia’s oil industry will result in “all-out war,” further pushing up tensions across the Persian Gulf.

The comments by Mohammad Javad Zarif represent the starkest warning offered yet by Iran in a long summer of mysterious attacks and incidents following the collapse of Iran’s nuclear deal with world powers, over a year after President Donald Trump unilaterally withdrew America from the accord.

Zarif’s comments also appeared to be in response to U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who a day earlier while traveling to Saudi Arabia referred to the attack as an “act of war.”

Asked by CNN what would be the consequence of a U.S. or Saudi strike, Zarif said: “All-out war.”

“We won’t blink to defend our territory,” he said.

Pompeo wrote a tweet early Thursday after his meeting with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in Jiddah over Saturday’s drone and cruise missile attack on a crucial oil processing facility and oil field. Yemen’s Iranian-backed Houthi rebels have claimed the attack, but the U.S. alleges Iran carried out the assault.

Pompeo called the attacks “unprecedented.”

“The U.S. stands with #SaudiArabia and supports its right to defend itself,” Pompeo said. “The Iranian regime’s threatening behavior will not be tolerated.”


Pompeo did not elaborate. President Donald Trump has been noncommittal on whether he would order U.S. military retaliation. He separately said Wednesday he is moving to increase financial sanctions on Tehran over the attack, without elaborating. Iran already is subject to a crushing American sanctions program targeting its crucial oil industry.

Pompeo left Jiddah on Thursday heading to the United Arab Emirates to meet with Abu Dhabi’s powerful crown prince, Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan. The UAE is a close ally of Saudi Arabia and joined the kingdom in its war in Yemen against the Houthis.


The UAE announced Thursday it had joined a U.S.-led coalition to protect waterways across the Mideast after an attack on Saudi oil installations.

The state-run WAM news agency quoted Salem al-Zaabi of the Emirati Foreign Ministry as saying the UAE joined the coalition to “ensure global energy security and the continued flow of energy supplies to the global economy.”


Saudi Arabia joined the coalition on Wednesday. Australia, Bahrain and the United Kingdom also are taking part.

Pompeo tweeted his appreciation for the UAE and Saudi Arabia joining the coalition.


“Recent events underscore the importance of protecting global commerce and freedom of navigation,” he wrote.


The U.S. formed the coalition after attacks on oil tankers that American officials blame on Iran, as well as Iran’s seizure of tankers in the region. Iran denies being behind the tanker explosions, though the attacks came after Tehran threatened to stop oil exports from the Persian Gulf.

Associated Press writers David Rising in Berlin and Angela Charlton in Paris contributed to this report

   

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