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CDN_PATRIOT @ Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:07 pm

housewife housewife:
I know you don’t like how this is going but complaining isn’t going to change how our government is going about it.


That madam, is the biggest understatement in the history of understatements.


-J.

   



DrCaleb @ Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:57 am

   



raydan @ Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:12 am

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PluggyRug @ Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:35 pm

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PluggyRug @ Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:36 pm

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DrCaleb @ Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:28 pm

raydan raydan:
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Yup.

   



CDN_PATRIOT @ Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:06 am

housewife housewife:
But we aren’t Britain. I know you don’t like how this is going but complaining isn’t going to change how our government is going about it. There’s really nothing wrong with caution considering how quickly variables can change.


No, we aren't Britain. But when a country that was harder hit by far can say, 'we better live with this and end the restrictions and let people live again', what does that say about a country like ours with more wide open space and less people per capita?

Caution is not bad, but we can't hide under a rock every damn time a new variant happens. The influenza mutates all the time and kills people, but we learned to live with that and move on. These kinds of pandemics have happened throughout history and will keep happening. Shutting everything down and stopping the world isn't the answer, and never was.

Scape Scape:
You said all along we should treat this like the flu and that is why you have been repeatedly kicked to the curb. Doug tried it your way and nearly had the healthcare system collapse TWICE. He is only now, cautiously, opening back up. He stopped listen to the idiots and the donor class because the realty is there is no one left to staff the hospitals.


I've been kicked to the curb because people can't seem to see past their own fear and paranoia since this all started. I personally did not question the virus itself the whole time, just the reaction and overreaction and mishandling of it all by our officials.

I decided early on not to fear the pandemic/virus, nor let mainstream media and their constant 'end-of-the-world' 24/7 reporting of it get to me whatsoever. I flat out refuse to fear something just because someone tells me to. I've taken precautions, I don't go anywhere non-essential, and I keep everything clean.

Fearing what you can't control doesn't accomplish anything. Period.

-J.

   



Scape @ Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:03 pm

We need to define what normal is so we can understand what falls under overreaction.

I propose that extermination of all hampsters and paying $25,000 to charter a flight to save your pet is insane. Seeing how this is in most mammals now there is zero chance that we would be able to exterminate all deer to remove all reservoirs for this plague.

We also have to come to terms with our healthcare system itself. Had this happened in the 80's or 90's where we had 2-3 times as many ICU beds and the staff to maintain them we wouldn't be on the ropes as we are now. However, we have had our provinces see spending money on our healthcare much the same as the Germans saw sending troops to the eastern front, a meatgrinder with no returns but needs to be paid. So we ended with a system held together with blue haired staff exceptionally well trained veterans of the industry but with no one to replace them so we could run it on the cheap. Meanwhile any and all redundancy was ruthlessly rooted out and seen as wasteful. And with everything run so efficiently by the soon to retire blue haired staff we have anemic replacement training so we have little was to scale up fast in the event of a disaster. Instead relying on outsourcing manpower from other nations and headhunting rather than investing in our own colleges.

The pandemic has now shown all this as foolhardy this was. Much like our crisis in our care homes has given stark contrast of how badly mismanaged our system is. So now the blue hairs have all either burnt out and retired and the youth replacements we have to fill the slot are overwhelmed and they too are QUITTING in DROVES. When they aren't sick and in quarantine themselves. Meanwhile we STILL HAVE MILLIONS (PLURAL) that refuse to get the shot. I know that we have over close to 80% with both shots across the country but that still means millions are still dragging this out for the rest of us.

Getting back to normal will be decades and not in my lifetime. We spent far too much time whistling past the graveyard for this to happen. Imagine if we had a global disaster facing us all that required us to face the reality of it and make hard choices. Good thing we don't right? *coff*global warming is real*coff*

Normal means SURVIVAL. We are not cutting it and much more need to be done.

   



CDN_PATRIOT @ Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:21 pm

Scape Scape:
We need to define what normal is so we can understand what falls under overreaction.


Anything before 2020 was 'normal' per se, and not the paranoid delusion that most people have been living in since the pandemic started.

Scape Scape:
We also have to come to terms with our healthcare system itself. Had this happened in the 80's or 90's where we had 2-3 times as many ICU beds and the staff to maintain them we wouldn't be on the ropes as we are now.


This is true. Our health care system has been neglected/been a joke for quite some time, and it's hard to dispute the fact that it needs a lifeline, to say the least.

Scape Scape:
Meanwhile any and all redundancy was ruthlessly rooted out and seen as wasteful. And with everything run so efficiently by the soon to retire blue haired staff we have anemic replacement training so we have little was to scale up fast in the event of a disaster. Instead relying on outsourcing manpower from other nations and headhunting rather than investing in our own colleges.


Also true. The answer lies from within our borders, not outside of them. If our leaders would put as much effort into the health care system as they do pointless elections and other ridiculous things, we'd be in much better shape. Unfortunately, it's easier for a politician to bitch about something instead of actually getting it done.

Scape Scape:
Meanwhile we STILL HAVE MILLIONS (PLURAL) that refuse to get the shot. I know that we have over close to 80% with both shots across the country but that still means millions are still dragging this out for the rest of us.


I can't fault anyone that doesn't get the shot, nor is it my job (or anyone else's) to do so. Personal choice is something that needs to be respected and defended, even if we don't agree with it on the best of days. I myself got the first two jobs, but am uninterested in the booster shot whatsoever. Apathy, and having had enough of the pandemic (burn out) will do this.

Scape Scape:
Getting back to normal will be decades and not in my lifetime. We spent far too much time whistling past the graveyard for the to happen.


That is VERY pessimistic. Not a criticism, just an observation. Normal for me will happen with the last of the restrictions are lifted, and masks go away. The only thing driving me nuts right now (pandemic-related) are masks. I've had enough, a lot of people have had enough. We can learn to live with this virus, or keep hiding under our beds. Not both.

I stand by my decision at the beginning of the pandemic to not fear it.

"If there is no enemy within, the enemy outside can do us no harm" - African proverb.

-J.

   



CDN_PATRIOT @ Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:31 pm

Also....

https://nationalpost.com/health/flu-ization-why-omicron-is-causing-some-countries-to-treat-covid-like-the-flu

$1:
The U.K., Switzerland, Portugal and Ireland have all announced similar policies in line with the Spanish example. In South Africa, which discovered the Omicron variant, health officials are now predicting that COVID-19 has basically run its course.


Time we did the same here and stopped letting our 'leaders' milk restrictions and ruin small businesses as well as people's lives.

If countries that got hit super hard can do it, so can we. Even in BC, this new approach is going
to be taken:

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/we-cannot-eliminate-all-risk-b-c-starting-to-manage-covid-19-more-like-common-cold-officials-say-1.5749895

Let's take our lives back, and let's do it now.

-J.

   



Strutz @ Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:46 pm

It was 2 years ago today I posted this thread.

current-events-f59/chinese-city-stops-outbound-flights-trains-to-fight-coronav-t123827.html?hilit=%20wuhan

How time flies...

   



Scape @ Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:10 pm

Stratos, Martin hell even Charles... dafuq r they?

   



herbie @ Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:51 pm

The Freedumb Convoy is underway today, I'm sure these morons will eat up 25% of the National news tonight.
That they're gonna cruise across the county, tying up roads and spewing CO2 and particulates at the time of record prices threatening everyone else how THEY will pay for enforcing the rules and ignore completely that America has the same ones show just how stubborn, ignorant and out of touch they are.
Reality is- they're gonna lose their jobs. And if you value freedumbs more than your livelihood, fuck you. The kid across the street has a Class A, is vaxxed and is looking for work. And there will be many jobs for repo men to grab those rigs they can't pay for any more.
Grow up and get vaxxed, it's not like you haven't had time or plenty of warning.

   



Thanos @ Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:48 pm

Scape Scape:
Stratos, Martin hell even Charles... dafuq r they?


I miss Stratos. Not sure why he left. He seemed like a good guy. Ditto with our Saskatchewan contingent. I miss Bart too. Not too sentimental about any of the other right-wingers though who all quit at the same time to go to Gab or wherever the fuck it is they tried to congregate.

   



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