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Freakinoldguy @ Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:19 pm

herbie herbie:
And I'm saying the Fraser Institute would publish the "Cost" of using the metric system, of having a Charter of Rights, or what we "waste" subsidizing post-secondary education if you asked for it.
I'm a pensioner and would consider anyone still bitching about bilingualism a miserable old codger probably well into their 90s.


And given that people who blindly support politically correct money wasting programs like bilingualism make miserable 90 year old codgers look intelligent by comparison might give them something to shoot for.

   



herbie @ Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:56 pm

Next time you buy a Chinese made item at WalMart and the instructions come in Chinese, Japanese, English, German, Italian, Arabic, Spanish, Urdu, feel free to write them and complain how they wasted your money doing French too.
Honest to God, we have a constitutional law that says English and French, so you're never gonna have to worry about any other language on your Corn Flakes box or tax assessment, ever. If you're worried about cost cost money waste akkk!! you want to pay a dollar per box to distribute and print separate boxes for Quebec? That would make the Anglophones there real happy, wouldn't it?

   



Freakinoldguy @ Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:57 am

herbie herbie:
Next time you buy a Chinese made item at WalMart and the instructions come in Chinese, Japanese, English, German, Italian, Arabic, Spanish, Urdu, feel free to write them and complain how they wasted your money doing French too.
Honest to God, we have a constitutional law that says English and French, so you're never gonna have to worry about any other language on your Corn Flakes box or tax assessment, ever. If you're worried about cost cost money waste akkk!! you want to pay a dollar per box to distribute and print separate boxes for Quebec? That would make the Anglophones there real happy, wouldn't it?


It isn't the French English bilingualism that's the problem it's the fact that our beloved constitution states we have to cater to "every" language spoken in Canada.

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Canadian parents have a constitutional right to have their child educated in their first language where there are enough students to warrant it. Some provinces, including Manitoba, New Brunswick, Quebec and Ontario, are covered by legal protections above and beyond those laid out in the Charter of Rights.


Read the link in my first post and you'll see what I'm talking about and if you don't think we're paying to much for the French English version of bilingualism just wait till we start catering to every new Canadian in their native tongue.

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But Balwant Sanghera, president of the British Columbia-based Punjabi Language Education Association, said government monies are unfairly and ineffectively spent, especially when more than 800,000 Canadians say they speak Punjabi.

“We are taxpayers, too, and our children should have the right to learn our language in school,” Mr. Sanghera said.


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In B.C., where just 55,000 people say French is their mother tongue compared with 1,100,000 who say their first language is a non-official one, languages such as Punjabi and Mandarin are increasingly taught in schools. In Vancouver, parents are registering their children for the new Early Bilingual Mandarin program, where class time will be split equally between Mandarin and English this fall.

   



BeaverFever @ Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:30 am

Wrong again. The constitution specifically states minority language applies to English and French only:


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23.(1) Citizens of Canada
(a) whose first language learned and still understood is that of the English or French linguistic minority population of the province in which they reside, or
(b) who have received their primary school instruction in Canada in English or French and reside in a province where the language in which they received that instruction is the language of the English or French linguistic minority population of the province,
have the right to have their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in that language in that province.

(2) Citizens of Canada of whom any child has received or is receiving primary or secondary school instruction in English or French in Canada, have the right to have all their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in the same language.

(3) The right of citizens of Canada under subsections (1) and (2) to have their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in the language of the English or French linguistic minority population of a province

(a) applies wherever in the province the number of children of citizens who have such a right is sufficient to warrant the provision to them out of public funds of minority language instruction; and
(b) includes, where the number of those children so warrants, the right to have them receive that instruction in minority language educational facilities provided out of public funds.


http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1356640308088/1356640399461

Example #5,247 why you can't trust right-wing sources.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:48 am

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Section 23 - Minority Language Educational Rights
Citizens of Canada:
whose first language learned and still understood is that of the English or French linguistic minority population of the province in which they reside, or
who have received their primary school instruction in Canada in English or French and reside in a province where the language in which they received that instruction is the language of the English or French linguistic minority population of the province, have the right to have their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in that language in that province.
Citizens of Canada of whom any child has received or is receiving primary or secondary school instruction in English or French in Canada, have the right to have all their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in the same language.
The right of citizens of Canada under subsections 1 and 2 to have their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in the language of the English or French linguistic minority population of a province:
applies wherever in the province the number of children of citizens who have such a right is sufficient to warrant the provision to them out of public funds of minority language instruction; and
includes, where the number of those children so warrants, the right to have them receive that instruction in minority language educational facilities provided out of public funds.
This section of the Charter requires provincial governments to provide education to Canadians in the official language of their choice, even in areas where a minority of residents speak that language.

In nine provinces and in the Yukon and the Northwest Territories, most people speak English. In these areas, Canadian citizens have the right to have their children educated in French if any of the following three situations apply:

their first language is French,
they received their own primary education in Canada in French, or
they have a child who has received or is receiving his or her education in French in Canada.
In Québec, where most people speak French, Canadian citizens have the right to have their children educated in English:

if they received their own primary instruction in Canada in English, or
if they have a child who has received or is receiving his or her education in English in Canada.

According to section 59 of the Constitution Act, 1982, the right of persons whose first language is English, who wish to have their children receive English-language instruction, does not apply in Québec until permitted by the legislative assembly or government of Québec.

In all cases, the right to receive an education in a minority language applies only when there is a sufficient number of eligible children to justify providing schooling in that language. Where those numbers do exist, governments must provide the necessary facilities.


http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1356640308088/1356640399461

Apparently that right wing source took the last statement of this article to mean "any minority language" whereas you took it to only mean english or french.

So which is it?

Wrong again, not. :P

   



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