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Musharraf got too close in solving Kashmir as well but alas.



To see that, please see the following....Kashmiris raise Pakistan flag every time.

The only thing which will allow the world to hear what Kashmiris want is Plebiscite, which Indians won't allow to occur in Kashmir despite promised by their once leadership.



It was never a part of India. Kashmir was princely state before partition like other some states i.e Hyderabad, Junagarh...Heck Indians were not a single country until British came and for easiness started calling them INDIA.....

Heard about Dutch India or Portuguese India? India was a just geographical landmass, not a country until 1947.

Pakistan is not interested in throwing nukes at India until we got overrun by Indians because fukers are just too many in numbers and have more resources being fives times bigger than us.

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Kashmir is not an internal matter of India: Karan Singh

NEW DELHI, AUGUST 11, 2016 03:27 IST
UPDATED: SEPTEMBER 20, 2016 13:04 IST

Son of the erstwhile king of Kashmir, Mr. Singh said the government is weakening its claim on the State by refusing to look at the international dimensions to the issue.
Senior Congress leader and Rajya Sabha member Karan Singh urged the government on Wednesday to abstain from stating that the political instability in Jammu and Kashmir was “an internal matter” of India.

Son of the erstwhile king of Kashmir, Mr. Singh said the government is weakening its claim on the State by refusing to look at the international dimensions to the issue as half of the state’s territory is under Pakistani and Chinese occupation.

“Today, we have barely 42,000 square miles under our control,” said Mr.Singh, while addressing the lawmakers at Rajya Sabha. “To say that we will not talk is not a mature response. When we say we do not need to talk to Pakistan, have we legitimised that [Pakistan occupied Kashmir]?”

While insisting on restoration of the dialogue process with Pakistan, Mr. Singh reminded the House that on October 27, 1947, when his father Maharaja Hari Singh, then ruler of the princely state, signed an Instrument of Accession with the Union of India, the development happened on three principles — that only Defence, Communications and Foreign Affairs would be handled by the Centre, and the rest will be under the state.

“I was in the House when the Accession was signed. However, please remember something more, my father acceded for three subjects — Defence, Communications and Foreign Affairs. He signed the same Instrument of Accession that all the other princely states signed. But all other states subsequently merged. And J&K did not merge,” said Mr. Singh.

“J&K’s relationship with the rest of India is guided by Article 370 and the State Constitution that I signed into law. We must realise that from the very beginning, J&K, rightly or wrongly, has been given a special position. Now [after] that special position from the original three subjects, there have been a whole series of developments — some may call them positive developments of integration, others may say negative developments of reducing autonomy,” he added.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/Kashmir-is-not-an-internal-matter-of-India-Karan-Singh/article14562551.ece


Pakistan Cuts Last Public Transport Link With India Over Kashmir Dispute

https://www.rferl.org/a/pakistan-cuts-bus-link-kashmir-india-united-nations/30103822.html


Concern over human rights situation due to developments in Kashmir




Kashmiri families in Pakistan fear for relatives across border




Shock and concern in locked down Kashmir - BBC News




Analysis: Pakistan expels Indian ambassador over Kashmir move




Inside Kashmir, Cut Off From the World: ‘A Living Hell’ of Anger and Fear


The police detaining an activist of the Jammu and Kashmir Youth Congress during a protest against the Indian government in Jammu on Saturday.CreditCreditRakesh Bakshi/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images


By Sameer Yasir, Suhasini Raj and Jeffrey Gettleman

Aug. 10, 2019

SRINAGAR, Kashmir — On the streets of Srinagar, Kashmir’s biggest city, security officers tied black bandannas over their faces, grabbed their guns and took positions behind checkpoints. People glanced out the windows of their homes, afraid to step outside. Many were cutting back on meals and getting hungry.

A sense of coiled menace hung over the locked-down city and the wider region on Saturday, a day after a huge protest erupted into clashes between Kashmiris and Indian security forces.

Shops were shut. A.T.M.s had run dry. Just about all lines to the outside world — internet, mobile phones, even landlines — remained severed, rendering millions of people incommunicado.

The New York Times gained one of the first inside views by a news organization of life under lockdown in Kashmir and found a population that felt besieged, confused, frightened and furious by the seismic events of this week.

People who ventured out said they had to beg officers to cross a landscape of sandbags, battered trucks and soldiers staring at them through metal face masks. Several residents said they had been beaten up by security forces for simply trying to buy necessities like milk.

India’s swift and unilateral decision Monday to wipe out Kashmir’s autonomy significantly raised tensions with its archrival, Pakistan, which also claims parts of Kashmir. The territory lying between the two nuclear armed nations was already one of Asia’s most dangerous and militarized flash points, smoldering for decades.

Anything dramatic or provocative that happens here — and India’s move was widely seen as both — instantly sends a jolt of anxiety across this entire region.

On Friday afternoon, witnesses said tens of thousands of peaceful demonstrators were moving through the streets of Srinagar, chanting freedom slogans and waving Kashmiri flags, when Indian forces opened fire.

The huge crowd panicked and scattered. Sustained bursts of automatic weapon fire could be heard in videos filmed during the protest, and at least seven people were wounded, hospital officials said, some sprayed by buckshot in the eyes.

Afshana Farooq, a 14-year-old girl, was nearly trampled in the stampede.

“We were just marching peacefully after prayers,” said her father, Farooq Ahmed, standing over her as she lay shaking in a Srinagar hospital bed. “Then they started shooting at us.”

India has put Kashmir, home to about eight million people, in a tightening vise, after India’s Hindu nationalist prime minister, Narendra Modi, swept away the autonomy that this mountainous, Muslim-majority region had enjoyed for decades.

His decision was years in the making, the collision of India’s rising nationalist politics, frustration with Kashmir’s dogged separatists and a long-running rivalry with Pakistan.

For the past three decades, the Kashmir Valley, part of the region controlled by India, has been a conflict zone, a restive area chafing for independence. In the 1990s, Pakistan opened the floodgates for jihadists to cross the border, setting off years of heavy fighting.

Many Kashmiris see India as an oppressive and foreign ruler. They resent all the changes over the years that have diluted what was supposed to be an autonomous arrangement for Kashmir, settled in 1947, when the region’s maharajah agreed to join India with guarantees of some self-rule.

No one disputes that Kashmir needed change. Tens of thousands of people have been killed here and the economy lies in ruins.

Mr. Modi has said the new status will make Kashmir more peaceful and prosperous. In a televised speech on Thursday, which most Kashmiris could not watch because their television service had also been cut, he insisted that turning Kashmir into a federal territory would eliminate corruption, attract investment and move it “forward with new hopes.’’

In the valley, nearly all of about 50 Kashmiris interviewed said they expected India’s actions to increase the sense of alienation and in turn feed the rebellion.

Elders in several rural areas reported that dozens of young men had already disappeared from their communities, often a telltale sign of joining the insurgency.

Officials in New Delhi circulated photos on Saturday that showed open fruit markets and crowded streets, saying the valley was returning to normal. But security personnel in Kashmir said large protests kept erupting, including on Saturday.

“At any point day or night,” said Ravi Kant, a soldier based in the town of Baramulla, “whenever they get a chance, mobs of a dozen, two dozen, even more, sometimes with a lot of women, come out, pelt stones at us and run away.”

“People are so angry,” he added. “They are unrelenting and not scared.”

Tens of thousands of troops from the Indian Army, the Central Reserve Police Force (a paramilitary unit) and the Kashmiri State police have been deployed in just about every corner of the valley. In some villages, even remote ones, a soldier was posted outside the gate of each family’s home.

The difficulties of negotiating such a tight security cordon are compounding the stress. Shamima Bano, a middle-aged mother, broke into tears the instant she heard her son’s voice over the phone.

“Are you alive?” she cried.

For hours, she had waited in a line of 400 people to use the one phone that the authorities opened, at a government office in her neighborhood. Her college-age son was in the Indian city of Mumbai, about to go into surgery, she said.

The lockdown’s effects are visible everywhere. Schools have been closed. Parks are deserted. Baby food is running out. In many areas, residents needed to produce a curfew pass to leave their homes, even for medical emergencies.

At the Lala Ded hospital, sick people had traveled more than a day to get here, only to find a skeleton crew. Many doctors couldn’t get to work. Many patients were curled up on the floor.

“It’s a living hell here,” said Jamila, a doctor who goes by one name.

Kashmiris said that of all the crackdowns they have lived through, this was the worst. A spokeswoman for India’s home ministry said Saturday she would answer questions about the complaints but had yet to provide a response.

Since the 1990s, Kashmir’s insurgency has steadily dwindled. A few hundred young rebels roam the valley, poorly trained and outnumbered by an Indian force nearly 1,000 to one. But still, the Indians can’t stomp them out.

Pakistan is widely suspected of covertly supporting some of these rebels, though to a much lesser extent than what it did in the 1990s. Pakistan controls a slice of Kashmir that is much smaller than the Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir, which includes the Kashmir Valley and was India’s only Muslim-majority state until Mr. Modi downgraded it to a federal territory.

Decades ago, Jammu and Kashmir had its own prime minister and Indians needed travel permits to visit. Before last week, the region had the power to frame its own laws.

“It was a full container and they have made it empty, slowly, slowly,” said Mohammed Latif Kotroo, the owner of one of Srinagar’s signature houseboats, a tourist attraction that now floats empty.

Many Kashmiris fear that Mr. Modi’s sweeping decision, which also wiped away a decades-old provision that gave Kashmiris special land ownership rights, will encourage millions of Hindu migrants from India to move into the valley, fabled for its stunning alpine scenery and fertile soil. Kashmiris fear they will be turned into a minority in their own land.

Indian officials deny this and say they don’t want to destroy Kashmir’s special character. But they have also said that the new status would make it easier for non-Kashmiris to buy land, which they argued would catalyze outside investment and lift the stagnant, war-torn economy.

India did not consult any Kashmiri leaders before revoking Kashmir’s autonomy, which several Indian legal experts said could be unconstitutional. The original autonomy provisions said any change to Kashmir’s status must be done in consultation with Kashmiri representatives.

In the past week, the Indian authorities have arrested hundreds of Kashmiri activists, including some elected politicians. Constitutional lawyers predict the issue will end up in India’s Supreme Court, which has shown some independence, if not in all cases, from the government.

Many Kashmiris have never trusted Mr. Modi. His government is deeply rooted in a Hindu nationalist worldview that is extremely popular with India’s Hindu majority — Mr. Modi just won a thumping re-election in May — but has created great fear across India’s Muslim minority.

Mr. Modi knew that stripping away what little autonomy Kashmir still enjoyed was not going to go down well with Kashmiris.

A few days before his government announced its plan, security officials suddenly evacuated thousands of Indian tourists. The reason, they said, was a possible terrorist plot backed by Pakistan. Now, many Kashmiris say this was a pretext before the clampdown.

“They all lied, the governor, all of them,” said Fayaz Ahmad, who runs a medicine shop.

Kashmiris are desperate to get information. But with the internet out and phones and television service disrupted, space has been created for the wildest rumors. A few small Kashmiri newspapers have continued unbowed, putting out thin paper editions — four pages, maybe eight — that are carefully passed hand to hand throughout the day.

Copies used to cost 3 rupees, or about 4 cents. Now they go for 50. There is no digital version.

Several people said they were feeling so anxious that they couldn’t sleep.

“Sleep has vanished,” Mr. Ahmad said. “We don’t trust anyone.”

One of the holiest days on the Muslim calendar, Eid, is coming on Monday. Many families are distressed they can’t celebrate it with out-of-town relatives — because they can’t contact them — or go outside to purchase a sheep to sacrifice.

A herdsman in downtown Srinagar guarded a small flock of sheep on Friday, sitting on a patch of grass, waiting for customers who never came.

As a car carrying a reporter slowed down to approach him, he sprang up and jogged to the window.

“We are ready to pick up guns,” he said, unprompted.

He then glanced at a pack of soldiers across the street and walked away.


Sameer Yasir and Suhasini Raj reported from Srinagar and Jeffrey Gettleman from New Delhi.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan.html

   

Kashmir most certainly fell under the dominion of India (British Raj) pre-partition. Look at a map from 1945 and you’ll note Kashmir is a part of the Raj, although most called it India.

Here let me show you,

   

As for Dutch India and Portuguese India, by 1900 neither nation had claim on either part.

   

I am also saying that Kashmir was part of British Empire but that doesn't mean they were part/bonded with/of modern republic of India (country)....Kashmir was a princely state and was given a chance to join with either Pakistan or India. Its British backed Hindu ruler, went against Muslim majority people aka Kashmiris and joined India, provoking an attack from Pakistan which ended in having 37 % of Kashmir liberated; now called Azad (free) Kashmir.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azad_Kashmir


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Bollywood Filmmaker Anurag Kashyap who criticised Modi’s decision on Kashmir, leaves Twitter, says he isn't allowed to speak his mind

“When your parents start to get calls and your daughter gets online threats you know that no one wants to talk”

Filmmaker Anurag Kashyap, who is one of the most celebrated directors in Bollywood, recently made a shocking announcement on his Twitter account. The director informed his followers that he was leaving the micro-blogging website. The Gangs of Wasseypur filmmaker's account is no longer available.

Anurag Kasyap wrote, "When your parents start to get calls and your daughter gets online threats you know that no one wants to talk .There isn’t going to be reason or rationale. Thugs will rule and thuggery will be the new way of life . Congratulations everyone on this new india & hope you all thrive."

https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment/news/people/article/anurag-kashyap-leaves-twitter-says-he-isnt-allowed-to-speak-his-mind/466858

Khan said it right........Nazis everywhere...They are all over the place.

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Good to Canadians.



ISLAMABAD, Aug 11 (APP):Hundreds of people from all walks of life and communities held a protest rally at Young and Dundas Square Toronto under the auspices of Kashmir Global Council.

Apart from them, people from Sikh, local Canadians and Hindu communities also participated, said a statement received here Sunday.

The speakers highlighted the plight of the Kashmiris, their sufferings and Indian inhuman treatment and the unilateral scraping of the article 370 by India.

https://www.app.com.pk/canadas-third-largest-party-urges-liberal-govt-to-firmly-convey-hr-concerns-in-iok-to-india/

   

“The Sikhs For Justice” Are Taking Up The Kashmiri Cause At The UN

By Andrew Korybko
Global Research, August 10, 2019

The Sikhs For Justice, a purely peaceful organization that’s campaigning for a plebiscite on the independence of Indian Punjab as Khalistan, are taking their support for Kashmir to the next level by filing a complaint at the UN about India’s recent “Israeli”-like unilateral actions in the occupied territory and seeking the urgent deployment of UN peacekeepers there prior to a referendum on the disputed region’s future political status.

The Sikhs For Justice (SFJ) are leading the international activist community in their support for the people of Kashmir after India’s recent “Israeli”-like unilateral actions in the occupied territory, proverbially putting their money where their mouth is by not just verbally supporting them like they earlier declared but actually going as far as to file a complaint on their behalf at the UN. The organization’s legal advisor Gurpatwant Singh Pannun informed the world in a press release that the SFJ officially urged the global body “to deploy the UN Peacekeeping Force in Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir to stop the genocidal violence against Muslims by the Indian security forces” and “to hold a plebiscite to determine the will of the people of Kashmir regarding the status of Indian-held Kashmir as already decided in UN resolutions on Kashmir.” He also drew important attention to the alliance between Kashmiri Muslims and pro-Khalistan Sikhs when declaring that they “have joined hands in liberating their respective homelands from Indian occupation through referenda”, after which he emphasized their common struggle for self-determination and pointed out how their people have the UN-enshrined right to peacefully determine their political futures.

The SFJ’s actions are immensely significant because they represent the most profound political support that the Kashmiris have received since India attempted to annex them last week. They also raise awareness of the Khalistani cause as well and can contribute to inspiring the international activist community to learn more about their struggle in order to understand why these two movements support one another. The Sikhs, just like the Kashmiris, have a long history of victimization by the Indian state, with the most dramatic example of this being the military’s attack against one of the holiest shrines of the world’s fifth-largest religion during the infamous “Operation Blue Star” in 1984 that also resulted in the destruction of the Sikh Reference Library that housed thousands of irreplaceable documents related to this faith. India’s subsequent “Operation Woodrose” saw the military hunting down the Sikhs of Punjab in the months after this unprecedented assault, after which they were killed en masse during the genocidal state-sponsored pogroms that took place all across the country following the assassination of Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi by two of her Sikh bodyguards later that year.

Jammu and Kashmir: The Political Consequences of the Pulwama Attack

Indian Punjab in the 1990s was also remarkably similar to current-day Kashmir in that the military often engaged in arbitrary detentions and extrajudicial executions in its campaign to crush the Khalistan movement. Not only that, but the government has done so little to counter the drug scourge there and address Punjub’s crisis of farmer suicides that it begins to look like the state is waging Hybrid War on its own Sikh citizens in order to remove them from that region as part of its “final solution” for stopping this separatist threat. Not coincidentally, there are now very serious concerns that India is planning to carry out a more rapid ethnic cleansing against the Kashmiris too by unleashing countless “Weapons of Mass Migration” into the disputed territory after revoking a constitutional clause that had hitherto prohibited the purchase of land in the region by non-residents in order to retain its demographic balance. The Chief Minister of Haryana openly hinted as much when he said that non-Kashmiri men can now marry Kashmiri women, which was widely interpreted as a dog whistle encouraging the country’s innumerable rapists to abuse women from that occupied region.

The slow-motion ethnic cleansing of the Sikhs from Indian Punjab was therefore a precedent for what might be about to happen at a much faster speed in Indian-Occupied Kashmir (IOK), which further explains why the SFJ are so active in trying to stop the impending catastrophe there because their people can personally relate to it. In an effort to bring about accountability for what’s happening in that closed-off region, they’re also seeking European arrest warrants for Indian Prime Minister Modi and Home Minister Shah ahead of their planned participation in this year’s G7 Summit later this month in France, as their legal advisor revealed in a joint press conference that he held with Lord Nazir Ahmed. Not only that, but the organization and its Kashmiri partners disclosed their joint plans to symbolically raise their movements’ flags all across the world in defiance of Indian Independence Day on 15 August, which will certainly generate substantial international media coverage and further their shared causes. Therefore, as it stands, the SFJ are doing more than anyone else to help the Kashmiris, and the rest of the international activist community can learn a lot from their example.

The author writes for this publication in a private capacity which is unrepresentative of anyone or any organization except for his own personal views. Nothing written by the author should ever be conflated with the editorial views or official positions of any other media outlet or institution.

The original source of this article is Global Research
Copyright © Andrew Korybko, Global Research, 2019

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sikhs-for-justice-are-taking-up-the-kashmiri-cause-at-the-un/5686088

   

“Informal Movement Orders” issued to Pakistan Army formations aligned towards Eastern Front. “Formal” orders mean, well, you move. Forward.

#KashmirIssue

https://twitter.com/WajSKhan/status/1160488797068509184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1160488797068509184&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231160488797068509184

   

Sorry not good enough. Occupied countries normally have to raise the occupier's flag. Lets face it both India and Pakistan are occupying the country of Kashmiri.

   

I blame the British.

   

The Radcliffe Line fucked everything right up. Then Lord Mountbatten further fucked things. But Kashmir was given to the Dominion of India, and then to the Republic of India in 1947,

   

Can't really argue with that point of view. Though it could be said if not for France's actions a long time ago England would not have been in India. The French set up a trading colony there and by King and Country the British could not let that go unchallenged. Then in the late 1700's France got a few leaders to try and kick out the British and well Brittan kept finding more and more Indian leaders who didn't like it that England was claiming India as theirs's so more and more fighting and land grabbing happened.

Dang it Britain and France 300 years ago you should have known it would come to this.

   

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