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Elections Canada censors book critical of Turdeau

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herbie @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:22 am

Pulling your head out of your ass would be Progressive, so don't do it. The guy can't even arrange to bring Canadians home from Wuhan after 10 days and you think it's Trudeau's fault your omelette didn't rise.
And squawking and bawling about the poor little piece of shit Levant's problems (he brings on 100% all by himself) makes you look like fools.

   



PluggyRug @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:30 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
No one gives a fuck about his book, no one is trying to censor it. What they are doing is upholding the laws that govern our elections.


The book was #1 best seller for a while. You should read, but you won't because of an irrational bias.

   



BeaverFever @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:59 am

Ezra Levant isn’t just a known liar and propagandist he’s been proven to be such in court.

He took out political ads including lawn signs during an election under the pretext of promoting a book, I’m sure his chosen timing was not coincidental. Who’s ever seen a book promoted with lawn signs? He was investigated for it by the agency that’s responsible for investigating exactly that. There’s no ready to believe Trudeau or any liberal party officials targeted him or were even aware of it. If he was a suspect in a bank robbery, the authorities would investigate him for that too all of their other accord, it wouldn’t mean that Trudeau targeted him.

The right’s phoney victim complex fools nobody but their already brainwashed followers.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:24 pm

The Progressive fake news and their believers want to make this about lawn signs.

It's not about lawn signs, of course, but what the Hell. Let's do it.

This is what Progbots want you to believe justifies Soviet style pressure tactics. Soon it will be the 3 in the morning knock on the door. Over this...

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Will your government agents be tearing down real estate ad lawn signs too?

And here's one Ezra kept asking of Justin's Campaign police, "Why aren't you harassing all the authors of pro-Justin books?"

Well, lawn sign Nazis? Can you answer that? Why aren't they?

Not that any of the Progressive media gullibles will be interested but here's the other side of the story on the lawn signs and other techniques used to gain parity with what Rebel calls "the media party."

Rebel Media: Our plan for the Canadian federal election!

   



Freakinoldguy @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:33 pm

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I mean, seriously. I'm not a fan of Trudeau or the RCMP, but it's almost a full time occupation countering the bullshit fake news around here. Doubly so when Levant is involved.



So you're saying all those other instances didn't happen and it's "fake" news? :roll:


Ask yourself, how many things in the last while have you posted, and myself or someone else, usually Tricks, managed to thoroughly discredit with 5 minutes and Google?

Levant is doing what Levant does. Crying he's being repressed, but completely ignoring his own culpability for making advertising signs that looked like Election signs and putting them on lawns and around cities during an Election.

No one gives a fuck about his book, no one is trying to censor it. What they are doing is upholding the laws that govern our elections.



So, prove that those instances didn't happen then or are "fake" news?

And for the record I couldn't give a shit about Ezra Levant or his book but what I can't condone is the fact that this appears to be another instance of the PM preventing people and groups from criticising him.

Are they doing it this time. Maybe maybe, not but like I said past behaviour is a great indicator of future behaviour and you can ask the PM's security team about that. Because no matter who this woman really is or what group she belongs to she has the right to ask asked a valid question. But was arrested and escorted away from the PM's press conference.

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Meanwhile, Trudeau lashed out at the woman at a public rally when she asked whether his government would repay Quebec for the cost of settling refugees. Then she was manhandled and arrested by his security team.


https://torontosun.com/news/national/wa ... -questions

   



BeaverFever @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:32 pm

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
The Progressive fake news and their believers want to make this about lawn signs.

It's not about lawn signs, of course, but what the Hell. Let's do it.

This is what Progbots want you to believe justifies Soviet style pressure tactics. Soon it will be the 3 in the morning knock on the door. Over this...

Image

Will your government agents be tearing down real estate ad lawn signs too?

And here's one Ezra kept asking of Justin's Campaign police, "Why aren't you harassing all the authors of pro-Justin books?"

Well, lawn sign Nazis? Can you answer that? Why aren't they?

Not that any of the Progressive media gullibles will be interested but here's the other side of the story on the lawn signs and other techniques used to gain parity with what Rebel calls "the media party."

Rebel Media: Our plan for the Canadian federal election!


Gee exaggerate much? Being interviewed for an hour over a clear violation is hardly comparable to Nazis or soviet style pressure tactics. And pressure to do what by the way?

He took out clearly partisan ads during an election which he s not allowed without proper registration . There’s no loophole that says it’s ok if you’ve also timed a book release during the election.

   



BeaverFever @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:50 pm

[quote="Freakinoldguy”]
And for the record I couldn't give a shit about Ezra Levant or his book but what I can't condone is the fact that this appears to be another instance of the PM preventing people and groups from criticising him. [/quote]

Don’t be ridiculous.

Were these or any other anti-Trudeau books pulled off the shelves?
Have any of any of the anti-Trudeau websites and videos been pulled off the internet?
Have right wing junk papers like the Sun and other anti-Trudeau columnists been prevented from publishing their criticism?
Has Ezra been prevented from advertising his book at any other time except during the election?i
Is thereaby evidence that Trudeau or any Liberal Party members were involved in this investigation?

The answer to all of the above is no. So use your head

Ezras tactics are to oush the limits if the law then cry persecution and then ask his gullible followers to send him money. He’s basically a sleazy televangelist, one that uses politics instead of religion.

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Are they doing it this time. Maybe maybe, not but like I said past behaviour is a great indicator of future behaviour and you can ask the PM's security team about that. Because no matter who this woman really is or what group she belongs to she has the right to ask asked a valid question. But was arrested and escorted away from the PM's press conference.


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Meanwhile, Trudeau lashed out at the woman at a public rally when she asked whether his government would repay Quebec for the cost of settling refugees. Then she was manhandled and arrested by his security team.


https://torontosun.com/news/national/wa ... -questions



There’s nothing new or or unusual about protesters being removed from press conferences. Remember Trump would actually tell his supporters and security to rough them up and “punch them un the face”? And it actually happened? That didnt seem to bother you guys did it?

   



Thanos @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:54 pm

Liberals quite enjoyed it when they all willingly spread the lie that Stephen Harper would have troops posted on the streets all across the country to keep everyone in line. As such it's only fitting when the same sort of totalitarian accusations gets turned around and lobbed at Liberals. And if Harper had actually sent the RCMP around to bother his critics his government would have fallen because it would have been top-item in all of the press. As is typical with the relationship with Trudeau and the Canadian press this sort of thing gets put on the back pages with the usual "oh, well" indifference the media has always had towards any rule-bending/breaking/shattering when it's committed by their favoured Natural Governing Party.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:55 pm

Did you watch the video. She wasn't protesting she was asking questions and maybe somewhat heckling. But hey when the PM can't or won't answer a question it becomes a protest. This is a protest.




This isn't. It's some pissed off Quebecois woman who lost it when he wouldn't answer her questions. He called her a racist which obviously incensed her even more. And then the woman was hauled away by the RCMP after Trudeau had left.



Big difference. But here's the two questions you've got to ask yourself. Why did they leave her there so he could keep calling her a racist and then, after the event was over take her into custody. And, why did they just escort the protesters in Nanaimo out and not take them into custody like they did with this woman?

   



herbie @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:51 pm

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Insert anything it isn't about....

   



Tricks @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:08 pm

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Yes I do. But when you're the leader of a Majority in the House of Commons it's pretty well a rubber stamp nomination even if it's supposed to be a secret ballot.

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A quick procedural sidebar: before a nomination for the 10-year, non-renewable term can be finalized, it must be approved by the House. Traditionally, this has been a pro forma practice, as no nominee has ever been publicly opposed since the position was created in 1920. (Before that, elections were run by a clerk handpicked by the government of the day.)


https://www.tvo.org/article/why-the-fed ... r-business

Just so we're clear, you're claiming that a guy who has worked for Elections Canada for 13 years, was appointed in 2014 to be Deputy Chief Electoral Officer Regulatory Affairs (so under the conservatives), has no blemish on his record that can be found, was supported via voice vote (meaning no one actually thought he wouldn't get support), is now working at the behest of a Prime minister who might be gone halfway through his 10 year tenure? In fact, when considering using social media influencers to try and get people out to vote, the idea was scrapped, under him, because of Conservatives protesting it. So he's actively shut down what would have probably been a liberal leaning initiative, and rightfully so.

And that makes logical sense in your mind? Why is it that all political hacks feel the need to project onto everyone else?

   



Thanos @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:11 pm

Bev Oda once had a few glasses of orange juice that the hotel charged her $16 each for! 8O

   



BeaverFever @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Thanos Thanos:
Liberals quite enjoyed it when they all willingly spread the lie that Stephen Harper would have troops posted on the streets all across the country to keep everyone in line. As such it's only fitting when the same sort of totalitarian accusations gets turned around and lobbed at Liberals. And if Harper had actually sent the RCMP around to bother his critics his government would have fallen because it would have been top-item in all of the press. As is typical with the relationship with Trudeau and the Canadian press this sort of thing gets put on the back pages with the usual "oh, well" indifference the media has always had towards any rule-bending/breaking/shattering when it's committed by their favoured Natural Governing Party.



As I said :

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Don’t be ridiculous.

Were these or any other anti-Trudeau books pulled off the shelves?
Have any of any of the anti-Trudeau websites and videos been pulled off the internet?
Have right wing junk papers like the Sun and other anti-Trudeau columnists been prevented from publishing their criticism?
Has Ezra been prevented from advertising his book at any other time except during the election?i
Is thereaby evidence that Trudeau or any Liberal Party members were involved in this investigation?

The answer to all of the above is no. So use your head


As dishonest as the “soldiers with guns” ads were, that was paid and registered political advertising by the liberal party campaign. The issue here isn’t Levants smears it’s that he was an unregistered political advertising by a third party during an election. His signs and billboards are in effect unauthorized campaign contributions

   



BeaverFever @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:49 pm

And let’s be clear because the title of this thread is dishonest (shocker).

The book wasn’t censored. Ezra may have to pay a fine because of the way he chose to advertise it during an election. Even the illegal ads in question weren’t censored since this investigation is occurring after the fact and still no verdict has been rendered.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:12 pm

Tricks Tricks:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Yes I do. But when you're the leader of a Majority in the House of Commons it's pretty well a rubber stamp nomination even if it's supposed to be a secret ballot.

$1:
A quick procedural sidebar: before a nomination for the 10-year, non-renewable term can be finalized, it must be approved by the House. Traditionally, this has been a pro forma practice, as no nominee has ever been publicly opposed since the position was created in 1920. (Before that, elections were run by a clerk handpicked by the government of the day.)


https://www.tvo.org/article/why-the-fed ... r-business

Just so we're clear, you're claiming that a guy who has worked for Elections Canada for 13 years, was appointed in 2014 to be Deputy Chief Electoral Officer Regulatory Affairs (so under the conservatives), has no blemish on his record that can be found, was supported via voice vote (meaning no one actually thought he wouldn't get support), is now working at the behest of a Prime minister who might be gone halfway through his 10 year tenure? In fact, when considering using social media influencers to try and get people out to vote, the idea was scrapped, under him, because of Conservatives protesting it. So he's actively shut down what would have probably been a liberal leaning initiative, and rightfully so.

And that makes logical sense in your mind? Why is it that all political hacks feel the need to project onto everyone else?


Nope I'm not claiming anything, I've stated the reasons for my thought process, you responded and one of us is wrong. But since you gave us Mr. Perrault's qualifications which BTW aren't in question. I have one question for you about transparency.

Why was there a gentleman already nominated for the post with announcements sent out, a fact which meant everyone assumed it was almost a guarantee for his acceptance to the position. But, suddenly Mr. Trudeau pulled his name and put Mr. Perrault in as his nominee with no explanation, no by your leave, nothing. Just did it?

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It’s not so much that we don’t value privacy: it’s just when it comes to balancing it with transparency, we tend to err on the side of the latter. That, in a nutshell, is why this particular journalist finds it so awkward and uncomfortable to admit that maybe, just maybe, we don’t need to know
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why the Liberals apparently reversed course on their move to import Saskatchewan elections commissioner Michael Boda to fill the now vacant federal post
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I say “apparently” because Boda’s putative nomination leaked out via the Toronto Star, which reported in April that “multiple sources” had confirmed Boda would be the government’s pick. Democratic Institutions Minister Karina Gould’s office declined to comment on his potential candidacy, as did Boda himself.

His name was reportedly put forward as the government’s recommended choice in letters sent to opposition leaders just before the Star broke the news.

Fast forward to this week, and the promised pronouncement arrived — with a twist.

Conspicuously absent was any mention of Boda. Instead, Justin Trudeau’s chosen nominee was revealed to be Stéphane Perrault, who has been serving as acting chief electoral officer since Mayrand stepped down in December 2016.

As was the case with Boda, reaction to Perrault’s nomination was, for the most part, positive, although Official Ottawa was certainly collectively confused by what appeared to be a major last-minute change to a one-man lineup.


BTW did you notice anything in the wording in the article? One says the Liberal Party nominee and the other says Trudeau's nominee so for clarifications sake, who nominated Mr. Perrault?

And don't get me wrong, I'd never come out and publicly accuse our PM of being unethical. Especially since, through his personal actions he's shown to be nothing but the most ethical, honest and transparent Prime Minister we've ever had and i'm sure the ethics commissionaire was just being biased.

   



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