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ShepherdsDog @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:46 am

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
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A reporter confronted President Donald Trump on gun control during a visit to South Korea on Tuesday, asking him if he would consider “extreme vetting” for people trying to “buy a gun” after the tragic Texas church shooting Sunday.

Speaking during a joint press conference with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, Trump first lightly scolded the reporter for “bringing up a situation that probably shouldn’t be discussed too much right now.”

“But it's OK if you feel that that's an appropriate question, even though we're in the heart of South Korea,” he added.

Trump then argued that tighter gun control legislation wouldn’t have prevented the Texas church shooting, but it may have prevented the brave bystander who engaged the gunman from obtaining his rifle.

“I can only say this: If he didn't have a gun, instead of having 26 dead, you would've had hundreds more dead. So that's the way I feel about it. Not gonna help,” Trump said.

When the reporter asked him if he’s considering any gun control legislation at all, the president pointed to Chicago as an example on the effectiveness of gun control.

“When you look at the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation, is Chicago,” he shot back. “And Chicago is a disaster. It’s a total disaster. Just remember, if this man didn’t have a gun or a rifle, you would be talking about a much worse situation in the great state of Texas.”



^^^^^

Speaking of a tool... :roll: ....and a defective one at that.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:51 am

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The hero who stopped the gunman behind the deadly Texas church massacre said using an AR-15 enabled him to end the bloodshed. In an emotional interview with CRTV’s “Louder With Crowder” on Monday, Stephen Willeford described the gunfight and dramatic car chase that ensued to stop the shooter from slaughtering additional churchgoers.


http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/07/her ... out-ar-15/

   



ShepherdsDog @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:36 am

Tomi Lahren opens her piehole and Texan fills it in.

A know nothing who thinks she's a know it all.

   



xerxes @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:44 pm

What did you expect from a blonde?

   



BeaverFever @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:10 pm

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Trump Says Chicago Is Proof Gun Laws Don’t Work. Researchers Disagree.

by Erik OrtizNov 7 2017, 1:07 pm ET
Once again, President Donald Trump pointed to Chicago's crime rate to say that stricter gun laws wouldn't necessarily stop the spate of mass shootings or gun violence across the country.

"Chicago is a disaster, a total disaster," he told reporters Tuesday during his stop in South Korea — two days after a gunman killed 26 people at a church in rural Texas. Trump was asked whether the shooting had changed his position on gun control legislation.

But researchers say Trump's incorrect claim that Chicago has the "strongest gun laws" in the U.S. but still grapples with a high rate of gun violence shows that America's third-largest city would only benefit from even tighter legislation.

Related: Why Mass Public Shootings Are Getting Deadlier

That's because most of the traceable guns that are funneled into Chicago and used in crimes are actually trafficked in from other states, a report released last week by the mayor's office and the Chicago Police Department found.

Tracing nearly 15,000 weapons recovered from 2013 to 2016, Chicago police discovered about 40 percent originated from Illinois firearms dealers, while the remaining 60 percent came from out of state.

Indiana, which borders Illinois, supplied most of the outside guns — about 20 percent, according to the report. Indiana is also home to gun shows where no background checks are required for firearms purchased from private sellers.

Mississippi and Wisconsin, which also have more lenient gun laws, are the source of about 5 percent and 4 percent, respectively, of firearms into Chicago, the city's report says.

Related: Trump Says Gun Control Would've Made 'No Difference' in Texas Shooting

Last month, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel responded to the mass shooting at an outdoor concert in Las Vegas last month — the deadliest in modern U.S. history — by calling for more national gun laws to make it harder for people to cross states lines to buy firearms.

"If you really want a gun, you can just drive over the Indiana border and get whatever you want," Emanuel said.

"Chicago's gun laws are no different than New York and Los Angeles," he added. "What is different is New York is right next to New Jersey and Connecticut, which have similar gun laws. We are next to Indiana and Wisconsin."

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Trump and members of his administration have often name-dropped Chicago for supposedly having the toughest gun laws in America but still failing to curb gun violence. While Chicago's homicide rate last year eclipsed a record from the 1990s and is driving an overall increase in the nation's murder rate, it still falls below several other cities' murder rates per capita, including St. Louis, Baltimore and Detroit.

Overall shootings are down in the city, with about 605 fewer so far this year than the same period in 2016, according to The Chicago Tribune's latest tally.

Overall homicides are also trending downward this year from 2016, when more than 760 people were murdered — mostly with firearms, according to Chicago police.

Gun laws in Illinois are stricter than other surrounding states, but Chicago's laws are not the strongest in the country, as Trump has asserted.

Actually, Chicago's laws are "middle of the road" compared to other cities and states, including New York and California, said Philip Cook, an economist at Duke University who studies underground gun markets.

Related: Trump Offers to Send ‘the Feds’ into Chicago to Fix Violent Crime

He said that while Chicago has managed to keep gun shops outside of city limits, it has lost a legal battle in recent years to ban handguns and it no longer has a gun registry.

The National Rifle Association responded to the city's gun trace report by reiterating that Illinois remains the state that is the single largest source of guns used in crimes in Chicago.

"The discouraging truth about Chicago's violence is that it is the product of a host of societal factors — including a lack of vigorous criminal prosecution — that cannot be remedied by a change to the current gun laws," the NRA said.

Cook said that surrounding states only make it harder for Chicago when guns flow more freely. Indiana, which is controlled by a Republican Legislature, has rolled back gun laws in recent years and may consider legislation next year that would eliminate licensing for people who can legally own a handgun and want to carry it in public.

"I think what the gun trafficking is doing is making a bad situation worse in Chicago," Cook said. "And while it certainly isn't the only reason why it has a high level of violence, it takes that high level and makes it more deadly."


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/texas ... rk-n818266

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:15 pm

Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:

   



fifeboy @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:45 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:

Meanwhile, the mass shootings march on.

   



BeaverFever @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:51 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:



Nowhere does it say anything like that. Did you even read the article?

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:56 pm

fifeboy fifeboy:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:

Meanwhile, the mass shootings march on.


Mostly in Chicago, home to the nation's most restrictive gun laws.

I refer you to the appropriately named:

http://heyjackass.com/

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:58 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:


Nowhere does it say anything like that. Did you even read the article?


Your article blames other states for the gun problems in Chicago. Any guns sold anywhere only make their way into Chicago in violation of Chicago's laws.

So like I said: Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

   



Zipperfish @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:56 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:


You ain't exactly no intellectual giant yourself. :D

   



N_Fiddledog @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:18 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Tomi Lahren opens her piehole and Texan fills it in.

A know nothing who thinks she's a know it all.


Oh c'mon, let's be fair. If you're going to present the far left rag salon quoting an ex-Obama administrator picking at a minor point from a larger piece as the epitome of clever and winner of the argument let's have some context.

Here ya go:



Oh and nobody said a good guy with a gun stopped that shooting. However the obvious point many did notice was the killer was dressed in combat gear, well stocked with more guns and enough ammo to go to war. He drove off in his car to do something. Except he didn't get far. A good guy with a gun stopped him. And this incident is far, far, far from being the only one where that sort of claim can be made.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:24 pm

Tomi Lahren isn't even my favorite conservative hotty who makes cogent points on gun control.

Here's my personal fave by about five thumbs up.



And anytime anybody from Salon or the defunct Obama administration wants to debate Dana on the subject I'm buying extra popcorn.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:42 pm

fifeboy fifeboy:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:

Meanwhile, the mass shootings march on.


Hey, haven't all these mass killings been committed by ....criminals with illegal firearms? No, they were all committed by whackjobs with legally purchased firearms.....hmmmm. maybe the law enforcement needs to be made aware of multiple NotsoBreitBart's hateful rants about killing people based solely on their race and religion. :idea:

   



fifeboy @ Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:37 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
fifeboy fifeboy:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Riiiight. Chicago's gun laws would work if only the criminals didn't ignore their laws.

Fucking hell, you assholes are stupid. :roll:

Meanwhile, the mass shootings march on.


Mostly in Chicago, home to the nation's most restrictive gun laws.

I refer you to the appropriately named:

http://heyjackass.com/

Well, I don't know. I just started googling "where do most mass shootings occur in the US". Only got to mass when the whole thing showed up! Most ( including this one ) are domestic. Most give warning signs. Chicago gets no special mention. Being shootings they all involve guns :wink:
America can do what it wants in regards to firearms violence! I have no say in the matter. My only concern, apart from feeling for the anguish that fine country is going through is that we have fools and idiots here in Canada that want us to adopt the hedious ideas of American gun culture. To stop that I'm ready to fight.

   



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