Canada Kicks Ass
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rickc @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:12 am

Good for Canada! You should be proud that you are at the forefront of the movement. It is always hard to be the first to make major changes to things, regardless of what those changes may be. The first to move will always take some heat from the rest of the pack with their "stick in the mud mentality". Humans tend to resist and fight change. We are creatures of habit. We whine and complain, and have to be forced along. When the change becomes the norm,we wonder what all the fuss was about. In a few years the rest of the west will be following Canada's lead, you can bet on that. Kudos to you for trying to restore peoples lives back to normal. People who's only offense was partaking of mother nature, and never hurting anyone. My only regret is that your government shared those criminal records with my country. Soon Canadians convicted of victimless crimes like weed possession will finally be able to have full employment again. Unfortunately those pardons will not magically erase those records that are currently in the possession of the U.S. government. The U.S government (the very essence of stick in the mud mentality) will not be so forgiving when it comes to admitting people convicted of drug crimes. Some poor souls will find that something that happened a long time ago when they were young (and is now forgiven in Canada) will still screw them at the border. This too will change in a few years. The genie is out of the bottle now, and is not going back.

Anyways I would like to thank you for having the courage of your convictions for doing what is right. It takes guts to blaze the trail for others. You did not cave to outside pressure, and there was plenty. I admire your tenacity. I hope my country can follow your lead soon. In the meantime, I salute you! [flag]

   



DrCaleb @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:27 am

It was reported that cannibus stocks across the country are selling out, within hours of stores opening.

*sniff* That's beautiful! *sniff* 8)

And my Cannibus stock portfolio should do really well today!

   



DrCaleb @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:46 am

Winnipeg's 1st toking and driving ticket issued 1 hour into legalization

Come on people! We have to be smart about this! :x

   



BeaverFever @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:50 am

herbie herbie:
herbie herbie:
The next thing will be to get everyone ever busted's record expunged. No doubt someone will floor a Bill to do just that within a year.

talking POSSESSION records here.


Jeez, turn on the news and hour later and they're already talking this....
See! You should listen to the Great Zoltan


It’s won’t be automatic though. Those wanting a pardon will have to initiate the request through Pardon Services Canada. All the government has done is waive the usual $615 pardon application fee and has made Cannabis Legalization a separate grounds for a pardon request for Simple Possession as opposed to an applicant having to meet the usual criteria for a pardon.

My guess is the feds want it on an application basis instead of just automatic mass-pardon to avoid a situation where someone like Paul Bernardo or some other career criminals get an old pot conviction pardoned. You know the Sun and the Righties are licking their chops waiting for something like that happened so they can whip up hysteria.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:58 am

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
My guess is the feds want it on an application basis instead of just automatic mass-pardon to avoid a situation where someone like Paul Bernardo or some other career criminals get an old pot conviction pardoned. You know the Sun and the Righties are licking their chops waiting for something like that happened so they can whip up hysteria.


Actually I'd prefer and encourage a mass pardon to reduce the costs of appeals and to immediately reduce the costs of incarceration.

It's absurd to keep people in prison for doing something that's now legal. Let them go and be done with it.

   



llama66 @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:05 am

Agree. If you've convicted of simple possession, the pardon should be automatic, and your record should be automatically expunged.

   



DrCaleb @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:13 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
It's absurd to keep people in prison for doing something that's now legal. Let them go and be done with it.


Just an FYI - the charge for possession carried with it a fine + the possibility of jail time, but unless you were moving cartons of it, jailtime was unlikely. A baggie or two just got you a $200+ fine.


The bad part of the proposed legislation are the people who were questioned but never charged. When police do a background check, they check for 'interactions' in their database. They can 'red flag' you just based on that, not just on criminal convictions.

Before, the Pardon process would include an order by a judge for police forces to remove that information from their records, along with any Criminal convictions. With the new 'suspension' process, those records remain. This can be a problem for people in their jobs, or if they want to volunteer for many organizations. A records check will not come back 'clean', even though no criminal convictions show up.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:19 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
It's absurd to keep people in prison for doing something that's now legal. Let them go and be done with it.


Just an FYI - the charge for possession carried with it a fine + the possibility of jail time, but unless you were moving cartons of it, jailtime was unlikely. A baggie or two just got you a $200+ fine.


The bad part of the proposed legislation are the people who were questioned but never charged. When police do a background check, they check for 'interactions' in their database. They can 'red flag' you just based on that, not just on criminal convictions.

Before, the Pardon process would include an order by a judge for police forces to remove that information from their records, along with any Criminal convictions. With the new 'suspension' process, those records remain. This can be a problem for people in their jobs, or if they want to volunteer for many organizations. A records check will not come back 'clean', even though no criminal convictions show up.


Agreed. All that shit needs to be cleared and it should be done across the board and ASAP.

   



Mowich @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:42 am

rickc rickc:
Good for Canada! You should be proud that you are at the forefront of the movement. It is always hard to be the first to make major changes to things, regardless of what those changes may be. The first to move will always take some heat from the rest of the pack with their "stick in the mud mentality". Humans tend to resist and fight change. We are creatures of habit. We whine and complain, and have to be forced along. When the change becomes the norm,we wonder what all the fuss was about. In a few years the rest of the west will be following Canada's lead, you can bet on that. Kudos to you for trying to restore peoples lives back to normal. People who's only offense was partaking of mother nature, and never hurting anyone. My only regret is that your government shared those criminal records with my country. Soon Canadians convicted of victimless crimes like weed possession will finally be able to have full employment again. Unfortunately those pardons will not magically erase those records that are currently in the possession of the U.S. government. The U.S government (the very essence of stick in the mud mentality) will not be so forgiving when it comes to admitting people convicted of drug crimes. Some poor souls will find that something that happened a long time ago when they were young (and is now forgiven in Canada) will still screw them at the border. This too will change in a few years. The genie is out of the bottle now, and is not going back.

Anyways I would like to thank you for having the courage of your convictions for doing what is right. It takes guts to blaze the trail for others. You did not cave to outside pressure, and there was plenty. I admire your tenacity. I hope my country can follow your lead soon. In the meantime, I salute you! [flag]


R=UP R=UP

   



Mowich @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:52 am

After checking out prices for legal pot as advertised in shops and online, I can't see our local dealers going out of business any time soon.

   



Tricks @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:15 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
My guess is the feds want it on an application basis instead of just automatic mass-pardon to avoid a situation where someone like Paul Bernardo or some other career criminals get an old pot conviction pardoned. You know the Sun and the Righties are licking their chops waiting for something like that happened so they can whip up hysteria.


Actually I'd prefer and encourage a mass pardon to reduce the costs of appeals and to immediately reduce the costs of incarceration.

It's absurd to keep people in prison for doing something that's now legal. Let them go and be done with it.

Agreed, why make them fill out paper work when it's just going to be an immediate stamp of approval.

   



llama66 @ Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:20 pm

Interesting...
www.bnnbloomberg.ca/these-countries-cou ... -1.1154580

   



DrCaleb @ Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:38 am

Here's a buisnesswoman who knows her market: :lol:

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Edmonton Girl Guide sells out of cookies in cannabis store lineup

   



llama66 @ Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:17 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Here's a buisnesswoman who knows her market: :lol:

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Edmonton Girl Guide sells out of cookies in cannabis store lineup

She's going places.

   



DrCaleb @ Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:28 am

Get a little red wagon full of cold milk, and she'll be rich in no time.

   



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