Two stabbed trying to stop anti-Muslim abuse in Portland
xerxes @ Sun May 28, 2017 11:16 am
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Two men have died in the US trying to stop a man abusing two women of Muslim appearance, Oregon police say.
The abusive man turned on the two men and fatally stabbed them in the city of Portland, police said.
The incident happened on a commuter train. Another passenger was wounded before the attacker was arrested.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations urged President Trump to speak out against increasing Islamophobia in the US.
It accused the president of exacerbating the trend with his statements and policies.
The attack took place at about 16:30 local time (00:30 GMT) on a train at Hollywood Transit Station, police said in a statement. One of the victims died at the scene, the other died in hospital.
Police have identified the suspect as Jeremy Joseph Christian, 35. He has been charged with offences including aggravated murder, attempted murder, intimidation and being a felon in possession of a restricted weapon.
"Suspect was on the train and he was yelling and ranting and raving a lot of different things, including what would be characterised as hate speech or biased language," said Sgt Pete Simpson.
"In the midst of his ranting and raving, some people approached him, appeared to try to intervene with his behaviour. Some of the people that he was yelling at, they were attacked viciously by the suspect, resulting in the two deaths and one injury."
Jeremy Joseph Christian was arrested shortly after he got off the train. The two women he was abusing - one of whom was said by eyewitnesses to have been wearing a headscarf - left the scene before police could speak to them.
However one of the girls' parents later told the Oregonian newspaper that they were teenagers, one black and one Muslim.
Dyjuana Hudson said the attacker "was saying that Muslims should die. That they've been killing Christians for years".
The abusive man turned on the two men and fatally stabbed them in the city of Portland, police said.
The incident happened on a commuter train. Another passenger was wounded before the attacker was arrested.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations urged President Trump to speak out against increasing Islamophobia in the US.
It accused the president of exacerbating the trend with his statements and policies.
The attack took place at about 16:30 local time (00:30 GMT) on a train at Hollywood Transit Station, police said in a statement. One of the victims died at the scene, the other died in hospital.
Police have identified the suspect as Jeremy Joseph Christian, 35. He has been charged with offences including aggravated murder, attempted murder, intimidation and being a felon in possession of a restricted weapon.
"Suspect was on the train and he was yelling and ranting and raving a lot of different things, including what would be characterised as hate speech or biased language," said Sgt Pete Simpson.
"In the midst of his ranting and raving, some people approached him, appeared to try to intervene with his behaviour. Some of the people that he was yelling at, they were attacked viciously by the suspect, resulting in the two deaths and one injury."
Jeremy Joseph Christian was arrested shortly after he got off the train. The two women he was abusing - one of whom was said by eyewitnesses to have been wearing a headscarf - left the scene before police could speak to them.
However one of the girls' parents later told the Oregonian newspaper that they were teenagers, one black and one Muslim.
Dyjuana Hudson said the attacker "was saying that Muslims should die. That they've been killing Christians for years".
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40070319
DrCaleb @ Mon May 29, 2017 6:16 am
Whaaa? The Muslims didn't stab them?
That isn't what I've been led to believe. 
Good for those two though, for defending others. Sucks that they had to find out just how radical the attacker was.
N_Fiddledog @ Mon May 29, 2017 7:58 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Whaaa? The Muslims didn't stab them?
No. It was a Bernie Sanders fan. Interesting little sidebar, actually...
http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/05/ ... supporter/
Thanos @ Mon May 29, 2017 8:34 am
A dastardly prog, you say? Yet if you asked him if he supported Obamacare and a minimum living income he'd call you a n****r-lover and try to eat your eyeballs. 
N_Fiddledog @ Mon May 29, 2017 10:25 am
A prog? No, but not all maniacs are. Some are more like this nut.
Some are something else. The Manchester terrorist for example was something else.
GreenTiger @ Mon May 29, 2017 5:11 pm
Good for those two men fighting this JO. This guy needs to be put in a cell in GITMO with some real terrorists to educate this insect.
Freakinoldguy @ Mon May 29, 2017 10:52 pm
GreenTiger GreenTiger:
Good for those two men fighting this JO. This guy needs to be put in a cell in GITMO with some real terrorists to educate this insect.
Exactly.
You don't pick on the defenseless no matter what the radicals in their religion are responsible for.
rickc @ Mon May 29, 2017 11:21 pm
This story is a mixed bag. I am glad that people stepped up for others, but it sucks that they died and got wounded. One was only 23 years old. 
It just goes to show that when someone pulls a knife, you need to pull a gun. Its not like in the movies where you can wrap a jacket around your arm and confront the knife weilding attacker. One stab, or one slice is all it takes to kill, or paralyze someone. I know that you anti gun people don't want to hear this but the fact of the matter is that if one of these three heroes was packing heat, the outcome would be very different. The crazy dirtbag would be the one wearing the toe tag. Us taxpayers would not be on the hook supporting this POS for the next 40 plus years.
stratos @ Mon May 29, 2017 11:59 pm
Why are you all not pulling out the Katy Perry "we just need to love each other"? That's what many on the left say every time a Muslim blows up others. When will we really start to understand that yes some of these morons are bat shit crazy. Yet when you teach a child from the age of 3-4 yrs old and up that others are evil, that they are Satan, and need to be destroyed, that indoctrination lasts for ever. Now exactly what group, not a small segment, but the vast majority is being brought up that way?
This guy has probably been inundated with racist shit all his life and see how he turned out. Now imagine 70% of a country being brought up the same way.
DrCaleb @ Tue May 30, 2017 6:33 am
stratos stratos:
Why are you all not pulling out the Katy Perry "we just need to love each other"? That's what many on the left say every time a Muslim blows up others. When will we really start to understand that yes some of these morons are bat shit crazy. Yet when you teach a child from the age of 3-4 yrs old and up that others are evil, that they are Satan, and need to be destroyed, that indoctrination lasts for ever. Now exactly what group, not a small segment, but the vast majority is being brought up that way?
This guy has probably been inundated with racist shit all his life and see how he turned out. Now imagine 70% of a country being brought up the same way.
This guy has probably been inundated with racist shit all his life and see how he turned out. Now imagine 70% of a country being brought up the same way.
Firstly, you assume we are 'on the left'. You don't have to be a leftie/rightie to understand that treating people that way is wrong. It's not a leftie/rightie things, it just simple human compassion and empathy thing.
Extrememism is extremeism, whether it's Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh, or Krishna. There are those of us also that don't equate the exceptions to the whole. Just because one neo-nazi decides to harassing minority women doesn't mean we think all white people think like him. There are far more people who will stand up to the neo-nazi than not.
Of all the stories I've heard about people who were taught to be extremists and bigots, the one thing that changed them was a simple addition of compassion. The birth of a child, the death of a friend, befriending someone who is a minority. That's the difference between the extremist and the the rest of us.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayeditio ... -1.3966671
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"It's not a hot hatred...It was a cold indifference. I can see how in Nazi Germany people just became ledgers, inventory to move around...Much like you would look at, you don't get angry necessarily at cockroaches in your house. They're just something that need to be removed."
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/outintheopen/ne ... -1.4069320
stratos stratos:
Yet when you teach a child from the age of 3-4 yrs old and up that others are evil, that they are Satan, and need to be destroyed, that indoctrination lasts for ever. Now exactly what group, not a small segment, but the vast majority is being brought up that way?
I wanted to quote this again because it demonstrates an important point about compassion and understanding. This may be how you see a certain part of the world, but it's also how that part of the world sees us.
BartSimpson @ Tue May 30, 2017 8:30 am
Hmmm. Kind of funny in an ironic way that this nutbar is a Bernie/Jill Stein supporter. I suppose the two of them need to issue statements telling their supporters to be more tolerant of Muslims.
N_Fiddledog @ Tue May 30, 2017 2:59 pm
Portland Mayor Wants Feds to Cancel Free Speech After Bernie Sanders Supporter Murders Two
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After a Bernie Sanders supporter, 35-year-old Jeremy Joseph Christian, murdered two men in Portland, Oregon on Friday, the city’s mayor on Monday is calling for the feds to shut down two upcoming rallies he considers “alt-right” and filled with “bigotry” and “hatred.”
In a Facebook post, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, a progressive leftist Democrat, called on the “federal government to IMMEDIATELY REVOKE” the “Trump Free Speech Rally” scheduled for June 4th in downtown Portland and the “March Against Sharia” scheduled for June 10.
“Our city is in mourning, our community’s anger is real, and the timing and subject of these events can only exacerbate an already difficult situation,” Wheeler wrote. “I urge them to ask their supporters to stay away from Portland. There is never a place for bigotry or hatred in our community, and especially not now.”
Like many progressive leftists, Wheeler believes that disagreeing with an anti-American leftist somehow equates to “hatred” and “bigotry.”
Comments to Wheeler’s statement on Facebook were almost entirely in opposition to his anti-free speech stance.
“Hey Butthead, this is still America,” wrote one respondent. “More hateful and violent acts have been committed by the lunatic liberal fringe than the alt-right.”
“So a liberal Democrat nut job stabs two men and you use this to shut down Trump rallies? Seems legit,” another commenter mocked.
“Ted Wheeler wants to stop a rally for free speech? Are we not in America where free speech is protected? What a travesty!” another person reacted. “Ted Wheeler, you are a nut job!”
“Do not shut down free speech,” another Portlander wrote. “You as the elected official have sworn to uphold the constitution. Crimes happen every day, and to blame innocent people of hatred and to assume they are alt-right because they have a different opinion than you is seriously ill-willed.”
The ACLU, which normally provides cover for leftists like Wheeler, spoke out against Wheeler’s attack on the First Amendment, saying that “The government cannot revoke or deny a permit based on the viewpoint of the demonstrators. Period.”
“We are all free to reject and protest ideas we don’t agree with,” ACLU Oregon said in a statement. “That is a core, fundamental freedom of the United States. If we allow the government to shut down speech for some, we all will pay the price down the line.”
In a Facebook post, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, a progressive leftist Democrat, called on the “federal government to IMMEDIATELY REVOKE” the “Trump Free Speech Rally” scheduled for June 4th in downtown Portland and the “March Against Sharia” scheduled for June 10.
“Our city is in mourning, our community’s anger is real, and the timing and subject of these events can only exacerbate an already difficult situation,” Wheeler wrote. “I urge them to ask their supporters to stay away from Portland. There is never a place for bigotry or hatred in our community, and especially not now.”
Like many progressive leftists, Wheeler believes that disagreeing with an anti-American leftist somehow equates to “hatred” and “bigotry.”
Comments to Wheeler’s statement on Facebook were almost entirely in opposition to his anti-free speech stance.
“Hey Butthead, this is still America,” wrote one respondent. “More hateful and violent acts have been committed by the lunatic liberal fringe than the alt-right.”
“So a liberal Democrat nut job stabs two men and you use this to shut down Trump rallies? Seems legit,” another commenter mocked.
“Ted Wheeler wants to stop a rally for free speech? Are we not in America where free speech is protected? What a travesty!” another person reacted. “Ted Wheeler, you are a nut job!”
“Do not shut down free speech,” another Portlander wrote. “You as the elected official have sworn to uphold the constitution. Crimes happen every day, and to blame innocent people of hatred and to assume they are alt-right because they have a different opinion than you is seriously ill-willed.”
The ACLU, which normally provides cover for leftists like Wheeler, spoke out against Wheeler’s attack on the First Amendment, saying that “The government cannot revoke or deny a permit based on the viewpoint of the demonstrators. Period.”
“We are all free to reject and protest ideas we don’t agree with,” ACLU Oregon said in a statement. “That is a core, fundamental freedom of the United States. If we allow the government to shut down speech for some, we all will pay the price down the line.”
http://thepolitistick.com/portland-mayo ... rders-two/
rickc @ Tue May 30, 2017 4:09 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Portland Mayor Wants Feds to Cancel Free Speech After Bernie Sanders Supporter Murders Two
http://thepolitistick.com/portland-mayo ... rders-two/
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After a Bernie Sanders supporter, 35-year-old Jeremy Joseph Christian, murdered two men in Portland, Oregon on Friday, the city’s mayor on Monday is calling for the feds to shut down two upcoming rallies he considers “alt-right” and filled with “bigotry” and “hatred.”
In a Facebook post, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, a progressive leftist Democrat, called on the “federal government to IMMEDIATELY REVOKE” the “Trump Free Speech Rally” scheduled for June 4th in downtown Portland and the “March Against Sharia” scheduled for June 10.
“Our city is in mourning, our community’s anger is real, and the timing and subject of these events can only exacerbate an already difficult situation,” Wheeler wrote. “I urge them to ask their supporters to stay away from Portland. There is never a place for bigotry or hatred in our community, and especially not now.”
Like many progressive leftists, Wheeler believes that disagreeing with an anti-American leftist somehow equates to “hatred” and “bigotry.”
Comments to Wheeler’s statement on Facebook were almost entirely in opposition to his anti-free speech stance.
“Hey Butthead, this is still America,” wrote one respondent. “More hateful and violent acts have been committed by the lunatic liberal fringe than the alt-right.”
“So a liberal Democrat nut job stabs two men and you use this to shut down Trump rallies? Seems legit,” another commenter mocked.
“Ted Wheeler wants to stop a rally for free speech? Are we not in America where free speech is protected? What a travesty!” another person reacted. “Ted Wheeler, you are a nut job!”
“Do not shut down free speech,” another Portlander wrote. “You as the elected official have sworn to uphold the constitution. Crimes happen every day, and to blame innocent people of hatred and to assume they are alt-right because they have a different opinion than you is seriously ill-willed.”
The ACLU, which normally provides cover for leftists like Wheeler, spoke out against Wheeler’s attack on the First Amendment, saying that “The government cannot revoke or deny a permit based on the viewpoint of the demonstrators. Period.”
“We are all free to reject and protest ideas we don’t agree with,” ACLU Oregon said in a statement. “That is a core, fundamental freedom of the United States. If we allow the government to shut down speech for some, we all will pay the price down the line.”
In a Facebook post, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, a progressive leftist Democrat, called on the “federal government to IMMEDIATELY REVOKE” the “Trump Free Speech Rally” scheduled for June 4th in downtown Portland and the “March Against Sharia” scheduled for June 10.
“Our city is in mourning, our community’s anger is real, and the timing and subject of these events can only exacerbate an already difficult situation,” Wheeler wrote. “I urge them to ask their supporters to stay away from Portland. There is never a place for bigotry or hatred in our community, and especially not now.”
Like many progressive leftists, Wheeler believes that disagreeing with an anti-American leftist somehow equates to “hatred” and “bigotry.”
Comments to Wheeler’s statement on Facebook were almost entirely in opposition to his anti-free speech stance.
“Hey Butthead, this is still America,” wrote one respondent. “More hateful and violent acts have been committed by the lunatic liberal fringe than the alt-right.”
“So a liberal Democrat nut job stabs two men and you use this to shut down Trump rallies? Seems legit,” another commenter mocked.
“Ted Wheeler wants to stop a rally for free speech? Are we not in America where free speech is protected? What a travesty!” another person reacted. “Ted Wheeler, you are a nut job!”
“Do not shut down free speech,” another Portlander wrote. “You as the elected official have sworn to uphold the constitution. Crimes happen every day, and to blame innocent people of hatred and to assume they are alt-right because they have a different opinion than you is seriously ill-willed.”
The ACLU, which normally provides cover for leftists like Wheeler, spoke out against Wheeler’s attack on the First Amendment, saying that “The government cannot revoke or deny a permit based on the viewpoint of the demonstrators. Period.”
“We are all free to reject and protest ideas we don’t agree with,” ACLU Oregon said in a statement. “That is a core, fundamental freedom of the United States. If we allow the government to shut down speech for some, we all will pay the price down the line.”
http://thepolitistick.com/portland-mayo ... rders-two/
Its funny how the left never wants to claim their own garbage.