Canada Kicks Ass
The role of the public broadcaster according to Vive

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Dr Caleb @ Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:33 am

[QUOTE BY= gaulois] Perhaps the role I described in the article section is too bent toward my own particular situation. Thanks Catherine for you comment anyway. It would however be most useful to hear from the Vive board and others on this matter. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Catherine is a memeber of the Board. Official title is 'Volunteer Coordinator', unofficially 'Cat Herder'. Much the same qualifications. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/smile.gif' alt='Smile'><br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= gaulois]<br /> What do you folks think??? Pull the plug on the public broadcaster??? Keep it the same? Or make it better interoperate with citizen-medias???[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I like it. It is about as independent as a government funded outlet can get. It makes some good programs, and some crappy ones. And the good ones it makes, don't get shown in Canada. (Dr. Who, Torchwood, Primeval). Go Figure.<br /> <br /> I think a little more interaction on the web-side of things might be good, but using the canada.com 'talkback' sections as a guide - I think something like that would be a waste of time.

   



gaulois @ Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:53 am

Don't think I eluded at all to the canada.com 'talkback' sections for CBC/SRC. I had more in mind a case like Robin Mathews, a steady and well articulated content contributor to Vive on a very important news, being promoted by CBC as part of this mandate I am pushing for. As far as I am concerned, Robin should have been interviewed by the CBC on this Basi screwup story and his Vive credentials should have been stated. Kind of like what the Vancouver coop radio did earlier this week. So along that line, it would mean that citizen-medias would "push the envelope" on content, and the public broadcaster would have the responsability of promoting the most relevant stories. And if they don't, we bark big times! It is absolutely amazing to me that Canwest is now covering more the Basi story than CBC is... Perhaps my socialist occasional bent on the role of the State is now showing.

   



Dr Caleb @ Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:22 am

[QUOTE BY= gaulois] Don't think I eluded at all to the canada.com 'talkback' sections for CBC/SRC. I had more in mind a case like Robin Mathews, a steady and well articulated content contributor to Vive on a very important news, being promoted by CBC as part of this mandate I am pushing for. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I see, I misinterpreted your idea. I thought you meant that CBC should hold the public at large in higher regard, and thought of Canwest's talkback as a bad example of that policy.<br /> <br /> But, having use Vive as a source would be excellent! However, I think Vive is proud to have Mr. Matthews and our other regular contributors as columnists here. They were successful long before Vive was around, so I tend to think we are riding on their coattails, not the other way around. But it would be good to have the CBC pay attention to us, and other sites like us. Especially when we scoop them. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/smile.gif' alt='Smile'><br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= gaulois]<br /> As far as I am concerned, Robin should have been interviewed by the CBC on this Basi screwup story and his Vive credentials should have been stated. Kind of like what the Vancouver coop radio did earlier this week. So along that line, it would mean that citizen-medias would "push the envelope" on content, and the public broadcaster would have the responsability of promoting the most relevant stories. And if they don't, we bark big times! [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Absolutely! Mr. Matthews and BC Mary are two I think who are the best informed on the B,B&V witchhunt. And Mr. Hurtig on the SPP. All should get more face time on CBC, then perhaps people will stand up and pay attention to what is going on.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><br /> It is absolutely amazing to me that Canwest is now covering more the Basi story than CBC is... Perhaps my socialist occasional bent on the role of the State is now showing.</blockquote><br /> <br /> I think Canwest likes to flog anything that makes a non-conservative government look bad. That will come back to bite them.

   



Reverend Blair @ Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:01 am

[QUOTE]I like it. It is about as independent as a government funded outlet can get. It makes some good programs, and some crappy ones. And the good ones it makes, don't get shown in Canada. (Dr. Who, Torchwood, Primeval). Go Figure.<br /> <br /> I think a little more interaction on the web-side of things might be good, but using the canada.com 'talkback' sections as a guide - I think something like that would be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I'm a fan of the CBC, although I think it needs to be more removed from government. The spectre of Mansbridge tossing softballs at Harper in the run-up to the last election and his completely unbalanced "At Issue" panel...usually consisting of a paleo-conservative, a neo-conservative, and a right-leaning Liberal...are good examples of that. You can see more balance splattered on the ground under a tight-rope than that.<br /> <br /> To counter that, I think gaulois' idea of citizen journalists is a great idea. Put Robin Mathews or Mel Hurtig on that "At Issue" panel to counter Chantal Hebert, Andrew Coyne, and that doofus from the University of Calgary, and I'd spend less time yelling at my TV. Mrs. Rev says they can't hear me anyway, but I think they just choose not to listen. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/wink.gif' alt='Wink'> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'> <br /> <br /> Better yet, get three citizen journalists...a conservative, a liberal, and a progressive...to make up the panel. Use different people every week. Do the same with Rex Murphy's rants...replace him with a revolving series of citizen journalists...and we'll have a much better public broadcaster.

   



gaulois @ Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:57 am

Let's not forget that citizen-journalists will mostly operate within citizen-medias. My point is really that the public broadcaster must recognize and promote citizen medias unlike private medias that will rather "protect their marketshare". I find the public broadcaster is acting far too much similary. The role of our public broadcaster is to promote canadian culture and if people prefer to express themselves on a citizen media, the public broadcaster still has to promote that, as a form of "culture". <br /> <br /> Citizen-medias will require more support from the State in order to survive IMO. And citizens must lobby for that via the public broadcaster. I wonder if the BBC or other States with a public broadcaster is further ahead.

   



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