James Bulger killer Jon Venables 'will be sent abroad to sta
Newsbot @ Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:02 pm
Title: James Bulger killer Jon Venables 'will be sent abroad to start a new life on taxpayer money'
Category: World
Posted By: Martin15
Date: 2019-06-23 19:48:17
Martin15 @ Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:02 pm
TBF, if you don't surf the British papers, you probably won't know who he is.
If you do know who he is, then you know just the thought of him coming to your country sends a shiver down your spine.
You thought Vince Li was bad ?
Can't hold a candle to this guy.
TDLR: in 1993, two 10 year old boys kidnap, torture and kill a 2 year old boy.
8 years in juvie, and a promise from the UK gov't they get new identities for life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of ... ger#Murder
Description of what they did to the 2 year old. Full warning, it ain't pretty.
Venables has been re-offending since then, up to and including child porn.
The UK has spent a million trying to keep his identity secret, and yet he keeps
being a criminal.
Thing is, if he does show up in Canada, you'll never know, until it is too late.
And then you won't know, because it will be all hushed up.
llama66 @ Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:31 am
This piece of shit, I remember this. Fuck him.
BartSimpson @ Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:14 am
Even money says he's coming to Canada. That or California. 
Freakinoldguy @ Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:41 am
I'd be very surprised if any either Australia or Canada took him given we both have immigration policies which prevent assholes like this from entering our countries.
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Pardons
If you have been granted a pardon in a foreign jurisdiction and that pardon is equivalent to a Canadian pardon, then you are admissible and can enter Canada.
The pardon is equivalent to a Canadian pardon if the pardon erases the conviction.
For example, the UK Rehabilitation of Offenders Act automatically pardons individuals after certain periods of time (depending on the circumstances) if the person was sentenced to less than 30 months in prison. Such a pardon is equivalent to a Canadian pardon and would allow the person to enter Canada.
It is always best to see if you qualify for a pardon in your country rather than apply for criminal rehabilitation – it is usually much faster and easier to obtain a pardon than seek permission to enter Canada.
If you have been granted a pardon in a foreign jurisdiction and that pardon is equivalent to a Canadian pardon, then you are admissible and can enter Canada.
The pardon is equivalent to a Canadian pardon if the pardon erases the conviction.
For example, the UK Rehabilitation of Offenders Act automatically pardons individuals after certain periods of time (depending on the circumstances) if the person was sentenced to less than 30 months in prison. Such a pardon is equivalent to a Canadian pardon and would allow the person to enter Canada.
It is always best to see if you qualify for a pardon in your country rather than apply for criminal rehabilitation – it is usually much faster and easier to obtain a pardon than seek permission to enter Canada.
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Deemed Criminal Rehabilitation
Depending on your foreign offense, its Canadian equivalent offense, and the time since your sentence was complete, you may be deemed to be rehabilitated.
If you are deemed to be rehabilitated, you can enter Canada and you don’t need to take any further steps. However, determining whether or not you are deemed to be rehabilitated takes some careful analysis.
Depending on your foreign offense, its Canadian equivalent offense, and the time since your sentence was complete, you may be deemed to be rehabilitated.
If you are deemed to be rehabilitated, you can enter Canada and you don’t need to take any further steps. However, determining whether or not you are deemed to be rehabilitated takes some careful analysis.
https://immigrationcanada.pro/criminal-issues/
So unless this fucking piece of shoe shit is granted a pardon by the brain dead's in the UK or deemed by our gov't to be rehabilitated then he shouldn't be allowed into either Canada or Australia.
But, with that being said What scares me is that given past history our gov't might just acquiesce to the UK's request and subvert our own immigration laws again, under the guise of "persecution" or "rehabilitation" to accept this creature. Then, if that happens I fully expect for this piece of crap to be living in Canada under an assumed name protecting him from the public's backlash for being a murderous animal who should have been hung rather than caged.
Here's hoping that somebody is smart enough to do their job and keep this piece of trash out of our country.
llama66 @ Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:54 pm
Why send him anywhere? declare him a dangerous offender and hand him an indeterminate sentence.
Martin15 @ Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:44 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
I'd be very surprised if any either Australia or Canada took him given we both have immigration policies which prevent assholes like this from entering our countries
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So unless this fucking piece of shoe shit is granted a pardon by the brain dead's in the UK or deemed by our gov't to be rehabilitated then he shouldn't be allowed into either Canada or Australia.
But, with that being said What scares me is that given past history our gov't might just acquiesce to the UK's request and subvert our own immigration laws again, under the guise of "persecution" or "rehabilitation" to accept this creature. Then, if that happens I fully expect for this piece of crap to be living in Canada under an assumed name protecting him from the public's backlash for being a murderous animal who should have been hung rather than caged.
Here's hoping that somebody is smart enough to do their job and keep this piece of trash out of our country.
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So unless this fucking piece of shoe shit is granted a pardon by the brain dead's in the UK or deemed by our gov't to be rehabilitated then he shouldn't be allowed into either Canada or Australia.
But, with that being said What scares me is that given past history our gov't might just acquiesce to the UK's request and subvert our own immigration laws again, under the guise of "persecution" or "rehabilitation" to accept this creature. Then, if that happens I fully expect for this piece of crap to be living in Canada under an assumed name protecting him from the public's backlash for being a murderous animal who should have been hung rather than caged.
Here's hoping that somebody is smart enough to do their job and keep this piece of trash out of our country.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12243206
Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real- ... 250377bf3e
James Bulger’s killer Jon Venables could be moved overseas to protect his identity
And only the Sun seems interested in this story. Big surprise.
https://torontosun.com/news/world/is-uk ... ables-here
Obviously, this would not be any kind of 'normal' immigration.
Agreements would be needed at a Ministerial level. Which means people in government
would know, and on purpose not tell the Canadian public.
llama66 llama66:
This piece of shit, I remember this. Fuck him.
So do I, but we are getting old. I doubt anyone older than 14 in 1993 would know
or remember, it got run out of the news pretty quick.
Pretty sure he is more famous in Aus and NZ than in Canada though. That's not good.
DrCaleb @ Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:30 am
Martin15 Martin15:
llama66 llama66:
This piece of shit, I remember this. Fuck him.
So do I, but we are getting old. I doubt anyone older than 14 in 1993 would know
or remember, it got run out of the news pretty quick.
Hey! I was older than 14 then, and remember it quite well.
This guy might have protection because his crime was done as a youth, but like FOG wrote, he's continued his crime spree so he will be ineligible to immigrate to Canada. And if he does, he's likely to have a "hunting accident".
Martin15 @ Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:18 pm
update:
Is it hunting season yet ?
Jamie Bulger killer Jon Venables 'to be freed within days and given money to move to Canada because it is cheaper than giving him a new life in Britain'
Sources say his departure from Britain is 'imminent' as he is kept in private cell
Venables, now 36, has been given a number of identities since his arrest in 1993
It is costing a 'fortune' so officials think it would be cheaper to move him abroad
Previous legal battles to keep identity secret have cost UK taxpayers £65,000
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Jon Venables, the killer of two-year-old James Bulger, is set to begin a new life abroad in Canada in just days says inside source, as it will be cheaper for UK taxpayers than to give him a new life here.
The news comes weeks after officials were said to have hatched the plan to move the child killer abroad having grown tired of constantly creating new identities for him.
Venables, now aged 36, was granted lifelong anonymity after he was found guilty of murder aged 10.
He has been given numerous different identities since his conviction in 1993 but is continuously outed by outraged members of the public.
The news comes weeks after officials were said to have hatched the plan to move the child killer abroad having grown tired of constantly creating new identities for him.
Venables, now aged 36, was granted lifelong anonymity after he was found guilty of murder aged 10.
He has been given numerous different identities since his conviction in 1993 but is continuously outed by outraged members of the public.
DrCaleb @ Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:15 am
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Law enforcement officials are reportedly sick of trying to keep the killer of toddler James Bulger’s identity a secret.
The Star said: “Canada is the most likely destination but Australia and New Zealand are also options.”
Immigration and Citizenship hinted that Venables would likely not be eligible for relocation here.
In a release to The Toronto Sun, the ministry said: “Due to privacy laws, IRCC cannot comment on specific cases without the consent of the individual.
“Some people are not allowed to come to Canada. They are known as ‘inadmissible’ under Canada’s immigration law.”
Theoretically, that would mean Venables.
The Star said: “Canada is the most likely destination but Australia and New Zealand are also options.”
Immigration and Citizenship hinted that Venables would likely not be eligible for relocation here.
In a release to The Toronto Sun, the ministry said: “Due to privacy laws, IRCC cannot comment on specific cases without the consent of the individual.
“Some people are not allowed to come to Canada. They are known as ‘inadmissible’ under Canada’s immigration law.”
Theoretically, that would mean Venables.
https://vancouversun.com/news/world/is- ... 92c33984c5
Martin15 @ Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:56 am
So the government will deny he is in Canada, and then let him in anyway.
Another government lie, who woulda thought.......
Sunnyways @ Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:12 pm
There are people who should never be allowed out of the country where they committed their crimes.
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/suspe ... -237727351
llama66 @ Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:05 pm
I'm loving how the UK still thinks its the 18th Century, thinking they can send their garbage to the colonies.
Freakinoldguy @ Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:19 pm
llama66 llama66:
I'm loving how the UK still thinks its the 18th Century, thinking they can send their garbage to the colonies.
Only if the colonies are stupid enough take it.
Strutz @ Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:22 pm
I remember when this murder happened. It was horrifying.
Why the hell would we want that POS to live here and WTF is it with that even being an option?
Good Lord, but I hope our governement isn't that stupid as to allow him to move here.