Canada Kicks Ass
Mounties Shot-Robison Arrested

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Yogi @ Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:59 pm

This one isn't far from home at all! About 1/2 hr drive. Struck a real chord because I used to work out of Killam for a few years and got to know all the members and staff really well, and became good friends with some of them.

With the turn-over, I don't know any of the current members, but none the less, my best wishes to them and hopes for a speedy and complete recovery.



http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/02/07/killam

   



Regina @ Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:08 pm

I was reading about it on the G&M a while ago. Sounds like someone had a wish to kill somebody. 8O

   



Yogi @ Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:16 pm

Last report I heard was that 1 of the officers had just returned from time off to get married.
The other statement made was that "1 person is still in the house, and the public has no reason to be concerned for their own safety". I'm guessing that the '1 person left in the house' will be catching a ride into town with Fee& Sons!

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:31 pm

Yogi Yogi:
Last report I heard was that 1 of the officers had just returned from time off to get married.
The other statement made was that "1 person is still in the house, and the public has no reason to be concerned for their own safety". I'm guessing that the '1 person left in the house' will be catching a ride into town with Fee& Sons!

Fee&Sons...Local mortuary?

   



jeff744 @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:58 am

This is why these people trying to take away the teeth from officers need to sit down and shut up, I am willing to bet the reason they are both still alive is because they either got the first shot off or were shooting back very early on. If they did actually kill one suspect while the other escaped then my only complaint is that they should spend more time at the range so next time it is two dead suspects and no mounties in the hospital.

   



Yogi @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:19 am

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Yogi Yogi:
Last report I heard was that 1 of the officers had just returned from time off to get married.
The other statement made was that "1 person is still in the house, and the public has no reason to be concerned for their own safety". I'm guessing that the '1 person left in the house' will be catching a ride into town with Fee& Sons!

Fee&Sons...Local mortuary?




YUP! :lol:

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:20 am

jeff744 jeff744:
This is why these people trying to take away the teeth from officers need to sit down and shut up, I am willing to bet the reason they are both still alive is because they either got the first shot off or were shooting back very early on. If they did actually kill one suspect while the other escaped then my only complaint is that they should spend more time at the range so next time it is two dead suspects and no mounties in the hospital.

I don't think extra range time will do much. Unlike the dirtbags mentioned in the article, paper targets don't shoot back and move around.
I'd be curious to see how accurate anyone is when they have more than one person blazing away at them.

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:20 am

Yogi Yogi:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Yogi Yogi:
Last report I heard was that 1 of the officers had just returned from time off to get married.
The other statement made was that "1 person is still in the house, and the public has no reason to be concerned for their own safety". I'm guessing that the '1 person left in the house' will be catching a ride into town with Fee& Sons!

Fee&Sons...Local mortuary?




YUP! :lol:

I hope yer right then :lol:

   



Yogi @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:54 am

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Yogi Yogi:
Last report I heard was that 1 of the officers had just returned from time off to get married.
The other statement made was that "1 person is still in the house, and the public has no reason to be concerned for their own safety". I'm guessing that the '1 person left in the house' will be catching a ride into town with Fee& Sons!

Fee&Sons...Local mortuary?




YUP! :lol:

I hope yer right then :lol:[/quote]

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Latest report agrees with me on this point. Now reporting that 'one person is still being sought, but no need for the public to be concerned'. [huh]

Another coincidence here is that "spokesman, R.C.M.P. Sgt. Patrick Webb", and his family were neighbors and good family friends when our Dads were in the military at Griesbach Barracks when we were kids.

   



Yogi @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:10 am

*** According to one of the locals with a scanner***

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Kudos again for Motorola life saving radios. One of the high calibre gun shots that hit a Central Alberta mountie was deflected by his hand mike today at about 2 p.m.

RCMP B3( Heisler) was active with Mike Papa Papa air section helicopter and ERT activity. Two mounties were shot and airlifted to Edmonton by STAR 1 Calgary and STAR 3 Edmonton. One suspect was shot dead by a shotgun. Another suspect is apparently still on the run. STARS has also been called back to Killam to standby along with a fixed wing air ambulance.

RCMP are just now having a news conference in Killam the detachment that covers the Sedgewick/Lougheed area where the shooting happened.

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The good news is that neither RCMP member is suffering life threatening wounds. But yes still tragic indeed to be shot at work protecting people. The 32 year old member with multiple wounds went to the U of A Hospital (trauma center) and the member with a single shot to the lower abdomen to the Royal Alex trauma center
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BartSimpson @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:38 am

$1:
The Killam RCMP officers were at a rural home executing a warrant to seize a .45 calibre handgun about 2 p.m. when gunfire erupted.


I'm curious as to why they were seizing someone's firearm? Absent a warrant to also arrest an individual for some dastardly crime this sounds to me like the RCMP was out to seize a registered firearm due to some sort of paperwork issue.

   



raydan @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:50 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
$1:
The Killam RCMP officers were at a rural home executing a warrant to seize a .45 calibre handgun about 2 p.m. when gunfire erupted.


I'm curious as to why they were seizing someone's firearm? Absent a warrant to also arrest an individual for some dastardly crime this sounds to me like the RCMP was out to seize a registered firearm due to some sort of paperwork issue.

Although "protecting my rights by shooting anybody who tries to take my gun from me" is the right thing to do on your side of the border... that's not how it's done over here.


...Sorry, I'm not sure what kind of smilie to put here... sarcasm maybe? :?

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:52 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
$1:
The Killam RCMP officers were at a rural home executing a warrant to seize a .45 calibre handgun about 2 p.m. when gunfire erupted.


I'm curious as to why they were seizing someone's firearm? Absent a warrant to also arrest an individual for some dastardly crime this sounds to me like the RCMP was out to seize a registered firearm due to some sort of paperwork issue.

$1:
In Ontario, for example, in order to legally purchase a handgun the buyer must go through a series of steps including applying for a 'Possession/Acquisition License', passing the Canadian Firearms Safety Course and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course, as well as passing a background check, joining a handgun club and completing a mandatory club level handgun safety course.

But of course, the fact these individuals shot two police officers executing a warrant, naturally means they were legal, law-abiding gun owners :roll:

   



andyt @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:57 am

Probably some NRA nuts who escaped from Idaho.

I think this adds some clarity:

$1:
Taylor said the officers had gone to a residence about 10 kilometres outside of Killam as part of an ongoing investigation that the small detachment had been looking into for the past week.
"A search warrant was granted for that residence and they attended there this afternoon," Taylor said.
Puts it in a different light.

   



BartSimpson @ Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:19 am

raydan raydan:
Although "protecting my rights by shooting anybody who tries to take my gun from me" is the right thing to do on your side of the border... that's not how it's done over here.


...Sorry, I'm not sure what kind of smilie to put here... sarcasm maybe? :?


On first blush I can see how my comment looked. No offense taken. :wink:

I'm looking at it from a LEO perspective that when you go to arrest someone for a serious crime they tend to be more cooperative then when you show up for something (relatively) trivial and bureaucratic.

Seriously, you go to arrest a bank robber and they may resist but because they know they are wrong they tend to draw a line on their resistance.

When you go to enforce a court order to seize a kid, or a divorce action to seize a car then people have a myriad of emotional responses that include:

1. You're violating their rights.
2. With a cop coming out to enforce this order it's overkill and they're insulted.

This is when people get hurt.

In this case if the cops were out to seize a firearm because the owner had been convicted of a felony then the owner should have cooperated. In my experience, I'd have expected him to cooperate.

If they were out to seize the firearm because, as we know, the RCMP likes to seize firearms, then there's a bit of a quandary.

Knowing what I know, the RCMP is asking for needless trouble doing this kind of sh*t. And, if they're going to do this kind of thing anyway, then they need to show up in force and, of course, that won't go over well public-relations-wise when the neighbors see a full-on military assault team show up to seize a gun because someone forgot to file a piece of paperwork to satisfy some f*cktard bureaucrat in Ottawa.

That kind of thing ends up generating more such incidents.

I know you folks love your gun laws, and God bless you, but expecting everyone to just go along with the kind of things that topple governments in this world is a tad naive.

   



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