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icbc and the police ruined my life...not what you think

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StuntmanMike @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:36 am

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="gkr85" Wrote:

i ran like a puppy? i didnt know you were there in the shadows to see what i did or didnt do.. why didnt you lend me your cell phone i left because it was a deserted empty road and was raining and foggy and my windows were steamed....maybe you arent familiar with annacis island/queensborought at night............


So why didn't you drive to the nearest police station and report the accident? It seems to me that would have complied with the accident reporting regulations under the BC Motor Vehicle Act.

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a bad driver? this is the post patronizing self absorbed elitist place ive ever posted in. but thats british columbia. land of the self righteous. where everybody wants to be a nurse or be on the government payroll.


I'm posting from Ontario, and I still think you're wrong.

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Im probably a better driver than all of you cause I spend probably 10 times the amount of time on the road and have less driving offenses.


Yes, I'm sure that's true.

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the problem i have is i paid for the pole and my car no questions and was told by a police officer that it wasnt going to affect my driving record? did anyone miss that?


So the cop gave you the wrong information about an insurance company. Why are you asking a cop about insurance? If I wanted to know about insurance, I don't think I'd go to the police for information. I'd call someone else, like, I dunno, maybe THE INSURANCE COMPANY!

I bet you call the gas company to find out what to do when someone's broken into your house too.

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How exactly is it fair that a computer program dictates my life. why should i have to wait that long hand over my license, then appeal, then get it back? Youre going to say...because im so dangerous to everybody else, a high risk.


Nope. I'm going to say it's because you're a bad driver and shouldn't be on the road.

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but then usually people who are at high risk are taken seriously enough to not be allowed to continue driving RIGHT? like somebody who commits assult has a warrant issued pretty fast. it doesnt sit in a database until the system decides to churn it out x months later.


Maybe that's because there are differences between the criminal legal system and the driver's licensing system.

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you people are douchebags and I know everything the CF. I'd probably make JTF2 if I applied myself.


I'm sure you would too. Tell your Master Corporal how great you are when you get to basic training and see how that works for you.


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If you meant what i said, ill give you my name and you can send in a letter to ICBC giving your reasons why i shouldnt even be allowed to walk next to a road. say you fear your kids might be in danger. maybe you all can petition maybe for my incarceration. Does anyone want my info so you can take it to the authorities? if not id gladly like you to STFU and this thread should be locked. thought this place wouldve had a balance of idiots and rational people.


You're right it doesn't have a balance. It's 15 rational people and one idiot. Unfortunately, you're him.

   



TattoodGirl @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:39 am

Im not 12 and take ownership for my fuck ups...I dont have confidence in someone that leaves the scene of an accident even if it is that minor, makes me cringe to think what you would do if human life was involved

   



gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:49 am

again youre making assumptions. i also didnt ask him he told me because he felt bad handing me the ticket. he told me because he was under a wrong assumption and i simply took his word.

under class 5 you dont get tickets for that. does it make sense? it sounds bad to leave the scene regardless....i wonder why that is though any suggestions?

I didnt drive to the nearest anywhere because my airbag went off...i cant restart my car. get it? I stated that. i guess youre smart enough had you read that part you wouldnt make that suggestion.


anyway i walked back to the delivery i did..this was a delivery on an industrial island that is surrounded by rivers. i walked back, took me 20 minutes. someone drove me back there 10 minutes later but a rent a cop had spotted the accident and phoned the police. had i gotten back to my car beforehand we wouldve called for a tow truck and the police wouldnt have been involved.

i didnt think of the security cars that the island hires to patrol the myriad of building. actually it was probably more like 40 minutes because i didnt leave the scene right away. it was simply a choice i made givin the remoteness of the location.

i couldve walked the other way but it wouldve taken longer to reach a wendy'/tim hortons joint building.

   



Brenda @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 am

The funny part of people like him, is that they always blame someone else for "ruining" their lifes.

Being a delivery driver, truck driver, cab driver or whatever driver doesn't give you the right of way, or the right to fuck up without concequences. We all had to take our tests, we all had to drive with our N's... (well, I didn't, but that is a whole other issue :lol:) We all pay our dues.

Now stop whining, and take responsibility for your actions, like a grown up does.

I agree however that the ICBC-system like we have it in BC sucks, but that too, is a whole different topic.

   



StuntmanMike @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:53 am

gkr85 gkr85:

anyway i walked back to the delivery i did..this was a delivery on an industrial island that is surrounded by rivers. i walked back, took me 20 minutes. someone drove me back there 10 minutes later but a rent a cop had spotted the accident and phoned the police. had i gotten back to my car beforehand we wouldve called for a tow truck and the police wouldnt have been involved.


And therein lies the problem. The police are supposed to be involved if you have an accident. That's the law. You tried to get around it and got caught.

Deal with it and grow up.

   



gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:01 am

again yet another assumption.


there was no curb. ive already explained the terrain. the fog was about 20 feet and no more visibility. it was raining. my interior is fogged up because i had food in the car. theres ditches. theres no street lamps where i was.

I obviously can drive well enough to have gone about 180 thousand km in my life managed well enough for those 180 km?

   



StuntmanMike @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:03 am

WDHIII WDHIII:
StuntmanMike StuntmanMike:
gkr85 gkr85:

anyway i walked back to the delivery i did..this was a delivery on an industrial island that is surrounded by rivers. i walked back, took me 20 minutes. someone drove me back there 10 minutes later but a rent a cop had spotted the accident and phoned the police. had i gotten back to my car beforehand we wouldve called for a tow truck and the police wouldnt have been involved.


And therein lies the problem. The police are supposed to be involved if you have an accident. That's the law. You tried to get around it and got caught.

Deal with it and grow up.


DAMMIT!! Was just typing that.......

Man I HATE deleting....... :lol:

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I guess it shows just how obtuse GKR85 is when we can all simultaneously come up with the same answer to his nonsense while we're sitting at different ends of the country eh?

   



gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:04 am

Actually the police dont have to be involved for something like that. my roadside assistance probably wouldve just towed it.

there are no injured parties. the pole wasnt even replaced because it had nothing wrong with it. but i was still billed.


you guys are extremely bad people...intellectually dishonest. you should all be lawyers. the devil always needs another advocate.

   



gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:06 am

I guess it shows just how obtuse GKR85 is when we can all simultaneously come up with the same answer to his nonsense while we're sitting at different ends of the country eh?"


HAhahahaha good one....So stuntman...should i even bother to get my class 5. or should i really take transit my whole life? whats better for society man...........


I hope you get supreme executive power someday and can lay judgement upon the people who you believe are "Good" and "Evil"

   



Brenda @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:09 am

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and move on.

By bus :P

   



StuntmanMike @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:13 am

gkr85 gkr85:
again yet another assumption.


there was no curb. ive already explained the terrain. the fog was about 20 feet and no more visibility. it was raining. my interior is fogged up because i had food in the car. theres ditches. theres no street lamps where i was.


So, did every other car that drove down that road have an accident that night? Probably not. So you were obviously doing something wrong. If the windows were fogged up, then you obviously can't see out of them. I suggest most courts would decide that operating a motor vehicle when you can't see out the window is not something a prudent, responsible driver would do. In Ontario they call that "Careless Driving", and it's a $325 fine with 6 points.

And once again, you've indicated the cop didn't charge you for having a collision, he charged you for what you did after it.

I looked up the BC Motor Vehicle Act. Here's what it says under section 68;

(3) The driver or operator or any other person in charge of a vehicle involved in an accident resulting in damage to property on or adjacent to a highway, other than a vehicle under subsection (2), must take reasonable steps to locate and notify in writing the owner or person in charge of the property of the fact of the accident and of the following:

(a) the name and address of the driver, operator or other person in charge of the vehicle;

(b) the name and address of the registered owner;

(c) the licence number of the vehicle.


Doesn't sound like you complied with that.

So why are you still whining about it?


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I obviously can drive well enough to have gone about 180 thousand km in my life managed well enough for those 180 km?


Yeah, but you couldn't go you're probationary period without an accident and a couple of tags. Sounds like you should be off the road for awhile.

As Tatooedgirl says, enjoy the bus. We're all better off with you on it.

   



gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:13 am

another thing that makes me seriously just laugh..is the woman who was afraid what i would do had I hit somebody and caused injures to human life. As if I wouldve reacted the same.

Like imagine me in court for my "crime"...and some random woman who read it in the paper decided to appear to testify just on behalf of women and children out there, perhapos mother against drinking and driving even though i wasn't drinking and im actually straightedge.

she gets in court and starts going "I dont know WHAT to think had this man hit my family...HE WOULD JUST RUN AWAY LEAVING MY CHILDREN INJURED IN THE VAN, THIS MONSTER DOESNT DESERVE TO LIVE"

then everyone in court goes "YEAH, WHAT SHE SAID. DONT LET HIM DRIVE JUDGE"

the judge an old man, who has a daughter with a similar face as the anonymous woman testifying, sympathizes with her plea and i get a spiked collar to go around my neck that hangs a 30 lb metal sign reading "HEATHEN"



Its sensationalism and its pretty sad givin you know nothing.

I actually prefer ICBC to this place. Imagine if this place were arbiters for all oc canada....I think the country would be pretty miserable.

   



StuntmanMike @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:16 am

gkr85 gkr85:
another thing that makes me seriously just laugh..is the woman who was afraid what i would do had I hit somebody and caused injures to human life. As if I wouldve reacted the same.

Like imagine me in court for my "crime"...and some random woman who read it in the paper decided to appear to testify just on behalf of women and children out there, perhapos mother against drinking and driving even though i wasn't drinking and im actually straightedge.

she gets in court and starts going "I dont know WHAT to think had this man hit my family...HE WOULD JUST RUN AWAY LEAVING MY CHILDREN INJURED IN THE VAN, THIS MONSTER DOESNT DESERVE TO LIVE"

then everyone in court goes "YEAH, WHAT SHE SAID. DONT LET HIM DRIVE JUDGE"

the judge an old man, who has a daughter with a similar face as the anonymous woman testifying, sympathizes with her plea and i get a spiked collar to go around my neck that hangs a 30 lb metal sign reading "HEATHEN"



Its sensationalism and its pretty sad givin you know nothing.

I actually prefer ICBC to this place. Imagine if this place were arbiters for all oc canada....I think the country would be pretty miserable.


Oh, yeah. Now I see your point. Touche'.

   



gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:24 am

Who cares buddy. I walked back to my delivery origin. got somebody to take me back. i was going to call BCAA but a rent a cop had spotted me on his patrols or so i think it was his patrols. and a cop beat me to the scene.

i didnt go through a ditch, im going around a bed, where theres ditches and no lights, rain, foggy windows and when the ditch ends because it goes subterrainean theres some more industrial places and some street poles and signs. i dont even remember if there were willow trees on the sides of that part or not of that particular strethc. my right corner of my car hit.

what i did actually was not an offense in th eyes of icbc. so why even say that i deserve my license to be taken away. icbc doesnt think so. because the ticket was for leaving the scene..
and I highly doubt had this happened to you. that you would notify the police.
everything is property. if you are going through a construction zone and run over their nail, you dont have to call the police to report that "THEIR" nail is in your tire and if they want it back to please call 1800 xxxxxxx

you'd just get a tow truck you'd phone for one and that'd be that. stop playing good samiritan. sure its the right thing to do. but youre not exactly a criminal if you dont. your property was what got damaged. if i had actually knocked over something flimsy like a stop sign or made it bend 40 degrees. id probably report it just to save my ass.

and in a accident with other vehicles or human life...id of course remain there...fuck man i wouldnt want to goto prison there isnt ANYONE...more than being scared of what you just did, everybody would be far more scared of hitting and running. virtually everybody would remain seated save for someone who just robbed a bank but in his case he's more fucked if he doesnt run for it.

   



ziggy @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:30 am

There's no such thing as an accident,their called incidents now and are all preventable.

   



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