icbc and the police ruined my life...not what you think
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:33 am
accident resulting in damage.
it has to result in damage.
no police station is going to be mad if you just get a tow truck, even though technically you did damage their property...but im sure you've parked over those cement long rectangle bars in parking lots and gone a bit too far and the bottom of your car has made contact with the cement...did you DAMAGE the cement? probably, but nobody wants it reported or to be compensated for it. Simply driving on the road damages it.
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:36 am
I did take responsibility. i received my ticket. i paid it. i paid for the "Damages" of the pole.. Im serving my prohibition. how am i not taking responsibility? im allowed to talk about the parts that i think were unfair on message boards. talking about them has nothing to do with how I paid the tickets.
I will probably get my license back.
Ill let this board know how it goes so you can all take your fingers into your eyes and face and pull down hard in anger at the injustice to all the good people out there.
StuntmanMike @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:38 am
gkr85 gkr85:
Who cares buddy. I walked back to my delivery origin. got somebody to take me back. i was going to call BCAA but a rent a cop had spotted me on his patrols or so i think it was his patrols. and a cop beat me to the scene.
So, what you're saying is you tried to skirt the rules, but somebody called it in, the cop beat you back, and you got caught.
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i didnt go through a ditch, im going around a bed, where theres ditches and no lights, rain, foggy windows and when the ditch ends because it goes subterrainean theres some more industrial places and some street poles and signs. i dont even remember if there were willow trees on the sides of that part or not of that particular strethc. my right corner of my car hit.
And, once again, why didn't every other car that drove down that road get in an accident too? Maybe because they're better drivers than you.
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what i did actually was not an offense in th eyes of icbc. so why even say that i deserve my license to be taken away. icbc doesnt think so. because the ticket was for leaving the scene..
ICBC doesn't decide what's an offence and what's not. The cops and courts do.
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and I highly doubt had this happened to you. that you would notify the police.
Yes I would. I am a law-abiding citizen, not an irresponsible rogue who puts people's lives at risk with his reckless, maniacal driving.
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you'd just get a tow truck you'd phone for one and that'd be that.
No I wouldn't. I would leave the vehicle where it is, put out safety flares, find the nearest phone and call 911, then return to the scene and prepare my vehicle documents and driver's licence for presentation to the officer when he arrives.
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stop playing good samiritan. sure its the right thing to do. but youre not exactly a criminal if you dont.
Yes you are. You are a horrendous criminal. Worse than Paul Bernardo, Clifford Olsen and Charles Manson combined.
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and in a accident with other vehicles or human life...id of course remain there...fuck man i wouldnt want to goto prison there isnt ANYONE...more than being scared of what you just did, everybody would be far more scared of hitting and running. virtually everybody would remain seated save for someone who just robbed a bank but in his case he's more fucked if he doesnt run for it.
Well, you've obviously spent a fair bit of time contemplating robbing banks, so it's quite apparent you've got criminal tendencies. Please identify yourself. I will be reporting you to the RCMP so that they can enter you into their criminal intelligence database. That way, when you do rob a bank and take off from an accident while fleeing the scene, they'll be able to track you down through it.
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:40 am
you said you'd find the nearest phone..and if a cop beat you back to the scene?
I guess you dont have to worry you've got a class 5. and even if you did take points. i think your license can take double or something the amount.
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:42 am
we'd both have done similar action. but one person can keep driving and the other not..thats a serious polarity...actually if i had a class 5 it'd just give me more FREEDOM and CHANCES to do wrong. I know plenty of people who bought their license. not personally, i even know several asian people who rich families who have bought masters degrees. BC is a highly unethical and elitst place.
Asians used to be notorious for buying and getting slack road rests by asian ICBC road testing stations. and back in the 90's anybody could get the class 5 quite fast.
there are lots of shitty drivers in BC who can drive cause they're under the protection of the class 5, which even allows you to drink somewhat.
im not being racist just stating a fact. that they were caught doing that.
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:49 am
you dont have much of a heart do you man. its easy to be a prick when you demonize the other party.
its how fanatical religious people can cut off another innocent persons head with a dull knife because they're brainwashed themself that the other party is evil.
if you think ive done wrong..youre right...i never said i did right. im saying im being punished unfairly. everyone on this forum is saying how i broke the N rules. but if i had my class 5 which im overdue in testing for. i wouldnt be here. id still be on the road. so obviously the action isnt bad in and of itself. its bad in the context of how restricting the licensure is to the licensee.
QBall @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:50 am
gkr85 gkr85:
why didnt you lend me your cell phone i left because it was a deserted empty road and was raining and foggy and my windows were steamed....maybe you arent familiar with annacis island/queensborought at night............
If you can't see out of your windshield you should not be driving on the road, you should be pulled off to the side until the defogger can do its job. If you couldn't see a utility poll on the side of the road (or where the side of the road was) you wouldn't be able to see a person either. You should be thankful that it wasn't a person.
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Im probably a better driver than all of you cause I spend probably 10 times the amount of time on the road and have less driving offenses.
No one is saying you're a bad driver. We're all saying you're a moron because you continually make bad decisions AND then try to blame everyone else except yourself.
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and some of you are probably UBC graduates. well go choke on a latte and i hope a terrorist blows you and your slut gf at the 2010 winter olympics while you wear your made by children 200 dollar name brand shirt. yeah i wear some expensive clothe too. but im not an asshole who deserves to be die in collateral damage like some of you are.
Well this little rant helps further advance the moron theory.
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the problem i have is i paid for the pole and my car no questions and was told by a police officer that it wasnt going to affect my driving record? did anyone miss that?
The officer is correct. Since you paid back ICBC for the amount they paid for the poleand for the damages to your vehicle, then the accident would not affect your discount level. However the two moving violations have NOTHING to do with ICBC insurance. Driver Risk Points from moving violations and license suspensions are the responsibility of Driver Services. Drivers Services couldn't care less about whether you repaid ICBC insurance for the accident, because you were either convicted or you outright paid the fine for the two moving violations. 'X' number of points by a driver with an 'N' license means suspension. This applies to you as well as all other 'N' license drivers in the province of B.C.
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you people are douchebags and I know everything the CF and what id be getting myself into. im a pretty hard worker and have a high threshold for physical pain. I'd probably have a shot at JTF2 if I applied myself.
You know everything? Then you must know that the members of the Forces HATES whiners, especially members of the JTF2.
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and of course it should matter how long. I already pointed out im past my due date to apply for the class 5 and if i had passed the test prior to this notice of prohibition. this notice wouldnt even apply to me anymore. so how would i not be allowed to drive when a ICBC road tester might've passed me on the class 5 test?
And of course it's everyone else's fault you didn't bother taking your test.
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because some fucking faggot told me i shouldnt even be allowed to walk near roads.
Eureka! We've finally found the lasy piece of evidence of the moron theory. Hawking eat your heart out.
ziggy @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:50 am
They should have tasered you a few times.
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:51 am
if what i did was so bad in and of itself. why should class 5 people be allowed to do what i did and get away with it and continue on with their life?
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:53 am
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and some of you are probably UBC graduates. well go choke on a latte and i hope a terrorist blows you and your slut gf at the 2010 winter olympics while you wear your made by children 200 dollar name brand shirt. yeah i wear some expensive clothe too. but im not an asshole who deserves to be die in collateral damage like some of you are.
actually i wrote that to mimick the demonizing that i was being givin
Brenda @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:55 am
gkr85 gkr85:
you dont have much of a heart do you man. its easy to be a prick when you demonize the other party.
its how fanatical religious people can cut off another innocent persons head with a dull knife because they're brainwashed themself that the other party is evil.
if you think ive done wrong..youre right...i never said i did right. im saying im being punished unfairly. everyone on this forum is saying how i broke the N rules. but if i had my class 5 which im overdue in testing for. i wouldnt be here. id still be on the road. so obviously the action isnt bad in and of itself. its bad in the context of how restricting the licensure is to the licensee.
its how fanatical religious people can cut off another innocent persons head with a dull knife because they're brainwashed themself that the other party is evil.
if you think ive done wrong..youre right...i never said i did right. im saying im being punished unfairly. everyone on this forum is saying how i broke the N rules. but if i had my class 5 which im overdue in testing for. i wouldnt be here. id still be on the road. so obviously the action isnt bad in and of itself. its bad in the context of how restricting the licensure is to the licensee.
And YOU were the one that didn't take it. So who's fault is it?
You were the one that assumed driving on your N for years was a smart idea. You are proven wrong.
Anything else?
StuntmanMike @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:56 am
gkr85 gkr85:
if what i did was so bad in and of itself. why should class 5 people be allowed to do what i did and get away with it and continue on with their life?
Because Class 5 people aren't criminals worse than Bernardo, Olsen and Manson combined like you are.
Now hurry up and identify yourself so I can call the RCMP.
Brenda @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:56 am
gkr85 gkr85:
if what i did was so bad in and of itself. why should class 5 people be allowed to do what i did and get away with it and continue on with their life?
Because obviously, they are smarter than you were by not taking it.
Holy shit, don't you understand?
gkr85 @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:01 am
no he refered to driving restrictions. he was refering that its not any points, because it isnt and he probably was unaware that it is for the N. i also get my license back without a retest once my 4 months are served. it isnt about safety, its about policy. so logic isnt involved.
theres people who dont even really need to drive to make a living or to help their dad, but ive seen people speed and get a warning or have a no n sign and get a warning. if the rules are to be followed it should apply to everybody. there shouldnt be warnings just cause an officer feels happy that day. everyone should suffer the same. because then it creates unfairness that two people do the same thing but one person got served his penalty and another didn't. for all i know the people who are driving might've been served warning or drive in a backwoods area of ontaria where running into a cop is few and far between. the actually city im in i see cops 5-10 times a day. and even then im
and pay attention because there werent two moving violations. i never recieved a ticket for crashing. if i had been fortunate enough to bring my phone, id still be driving. i couldve sat in my car till the cows come home until someone drives by.
"No one is saying you're a bad driver"
guess you havnt been reading this thread. please dont say something positive just so you can prep your next sentence with a negative. might work on the weak of mind who think well hes doing some give and take ill listen to him..i guess hes being fair because it appears hes unbiased because he threw me a biscuit to keep me happy.
Brenda @ Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:06 am
gkr85 gkr85:
no he refered to driving restrictions. he was refering that its not any points, because it isnt and he probably was unaware that it is for the N. i also get my license back without a retest once my 4 months are served. it isnt about safety, its about policy. so logic isnt involved.
Policies are made because of?
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theres people who dont even really need to drive to make a living or to help their dad,
Wrong forum to come for pitty, seriously...
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but speed and get a warning or have a no n sign and get a warning. if the rules are to be followed it should apply to everybody. there shouldnt be warning just cause an officer feels happy that day. everyone should suffer the same.
Didn't you just say you had more violations to your N than just one?
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and pay attention because there werent two moving violations. i never recieved a ticket for crashing. if i had been fortunate enough to bring my phone, id still be driving. i couldve sat in my car till the cows come home until someone drives by.
You never received a ticket for crashing and you are still feeling you are treated unfair?