More Free Trade in Farming Please!
Blue_Nose @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:20 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
I fail to see the difference.
No one is getting graded on their writing here. It's just an exchange of ideas.
Blue_Nose @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:26 pm
THEN DON'T BOTHER.
Toro @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:35 pm
EDIT
I've deleted this because this conversation is not worth the time.
Blue_Nose @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:44 pm
Damn Toro, I'm going to learn that one of these days... sorry about the thread.
Toro @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:45 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
Food prices are high? In Canada? Where? The only places I see high prices on food are on junk food, other processed food, imported produce and in restaurants.
By keeping inefficient producers in business through subsidies or protection - no matter what that business is, farming or otherwise - you keep the cost of the product, in this case food higher than it otherwise would be. Or in economic terms, the marginal cost is kept artificially high. And if you want the farmer to stay in business, the marginal price must equal the marginal cost, which means higher food prices. That hurts the poorest the most because the poorest spend the biggest portion of their income on food. They may not be high to you, but they are high to somebody.
Toro @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:48 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Damn Toro, I'm going to learn that one of these days... sorry about the thread.
Me too Blue_Nose.
Toro @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:23 pm
The poor are net consumers of food. Thus, in aggregate, the poor are hurt by higher food prices.
Toro @ Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:25 pm
Avro Avro:
Toro Toro:
Finally, Avro would be embarrassed by the last statement if he wasn't flying on assumption.
Okay then, what would you have our farmers do when your ideas have bankrupted them? Now don't tell me, go stand in the middle of the praries and then the mid western USA and say it.
Psssst you had better be in the Pope mobile.
I guess you support subsidies and tariffs on food then? I guess its better to make the poor pay, eh?