AMERICANIZATION OF CANADA
Diogenes @ Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:17 am
Toro Toro:
Diogenes Diogenes:
I called Bull Shit on 'Canadians exaggerate to establish an identity '
Show us the proof to back up your claim
Show us the proof to back up your claim
My proof is living 10 years in the United States, a year in England and traveling extensively through Europe.
There are all sorts of examples of Canadians exaggerating the differences. The biggest is Medicare. Ask a Canadian what it means to be a Canadian and nine times out of ten, they'll say "Medicare."
Okay, since Medicare is only about 40 years old, what did it mean to be Canadian before then?
And how does that make Canada different from almost every other industrialized country on earth?
It doesn't. It only does if you define yourself vis-a-vis the United States. Canadians emphasize Medicare because it differentiates us from Americans, not because it is a uniquely Canadian thing.
But that's not unexpected. Given that Canada was borne and defined in part because of the United States, that America so dominates the continent, and that the peoples are so similar, its not surprising Canadians would do so.
Thank you for the insights to how you think. It is as I expected . You have ne empirical (hard) data to support your claim, only so called personal experience.
What I was looking for, and found, was the quality of your thinking.
You might get by with sloppy thinking at what ever other site you visit and post on but you won't get away with that stuff here.
For anyone to even consider the drivel you use in place of thinking would most likely be done solely as entertainment because using your quotes post above as a guide what ever else could it be. But because I am benevolent I will supplly you with a critical thing site so you might beable to get up to speed, that is if you are a quick study.
C:\Documents and Settings\My Computer\My Documents\Critical thinking\CriticalThinking_org - Strategy List 35 Dimensions of Critical Thought.mht
up to now all you have shown us is your ability to regurgate what you've been force-fed by the state apparatus.
Toro @ Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:59 am
Diogenes Diogenes:
Thank you for the insights to how you think. It is as I expected . You have ne empirical (hard) data to support your claim, only so called personal experience.
What I was looking for, and found, was the quality of your thinking.
You might get by with sloppy thinking at what ever other site you visit and post on but you won't get away with that stuff here.
For anyone to even consider the drivel you use in place of thinking would most likely be done solely as entertainment because using your quotes post above as a guide what ever else could it be. But because I am benevolent I will supplly you with a critical thing site so you might beable to get up to speed, that is if you are a quick study.
C:\Documents and Settings\My Computer\My Documents\Critical thinking\CriticalThinking_org - Strategy List 35 Dimensions of Critical Thought.mht
up to now all you have shown us is your ability to regurgate what you've been force-fed by the state apparatus.
What I was looking for, and found, was the quality of your thinking.
You might get by with sloppy thinking at what ever other site you visit and post on but you won't get away with that stuff here.
For anyone to even consider the drivel you use in place of thinking would most likely be done solely as entertainment because using your quotes post above as a guide what ever else could it be. But because I am benevolent I will supplly you with a critical thing site so you might beable to get up to speed, that is if you are a quick study.
C:\Documents and Settings\My Computer\My Documents\Critical thinking\CriticalThinking_org - Strategy List 35 Dimensions of Critical Thought.mht
up to now all you have shown us is your ability to regurgate what you've been force-fed by the state apparatus.
This coming from someone who posts links to bizarre unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
Diogenes @ Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:57 am
Shocks ya . eh?
But a counter claim has still not been presented
You can yammer all you want toro and you do but until you have presented fact rather than emotion your outta the game
so suck it up Bro, your non sequiturs are showing
Toro @ Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:01 pm
Diogenes Diogenes:
Shocks ya . eh?
But a counter claim has still not been presented
You can yammer all you want toro and you do but until you have presented fact rather than emotion your outta the game
so suck it up Bro, your non sequiturs are showing
But a counter claim has still not been presented
You can yammer all you want toro and you do but until you have presented fact rather than emotion your outta the game
so suck it up Bro, your non sequiturs are showing
You don't take getting pwnd very well I see, Dio! lol
Diogenes @ Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:23 pm
Toro Toro:
Diogenes Diogenes:
Shocks ya . eh?
But a counter claim has still not been presented
You can yammer all you want toro and you do but until you have presented fact rather than emotion your outta the game
so suck it up Bro, your non sequiturs are showing
But a counter claim has still not been presented
You can yammer all you want toro and you do but until you have presented fact rather than emotion your outta the game
so suck it up Bro, your non sequiturs are showing
You don't take getting pwnd very well I see, Dio! lol
What I don't take very well is wilful ignorance, of which you appear to have an ample share.
You can slip, slide, and dance around all you want it doesn't alter fact.
You point out the links to "bizarre unsubstantiated conspiracy theories" and I'll knock them down
You perhaps have heard of the Monroe doctrine/ Manifest Destiny?
There are those Americans who in their arrogance belief this continent is theirs for the taking and the has been a conspiracy to do so
No “theory”, Flat out intention!
The Fed came about by conspiracy
The list goes on.
What is done in secret is conspiracy.
Diogenes @ Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:57 pm
And while we are on the topic of conspiracy try this one on for size
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html
Chets @ Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:57 pm
We are as American as Belarussians are Russians. I have lived seven years outside Canada and we are seen as Americans, for the most part. Do you think 95% of the world knows about peacekeepers, "Middle Power" or the any of the insignificant differences between us and Americans? Canadians ,as much as other relatively insignificant countries, think the world thinks about them a lot more than what is the reality. What do you know about Slovenia, South Korea or Hungary? Canadian nationalists should kiss the ground Dubya walks on; it is right wing nutcases like him who really show the major distinction between Canada and the US: politics. Bush jr and Reagan would never have been elected in Canada.
uwish @ Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:00 am
if the only thing that defines our 'difference' from the US is medicare then maybe this country should just give up. I am tired of people freaking out about our 'identity' get over it.
99% of anti-americanism in this country is because it is the only way Canuck can set themselves apart from the US. Plain and simple. Thank's Treucrap and all the other lefties, we have to worry about not teaching Canadian history in schools because it might offend the east coast left handed bagpipe technicians association.
You got what you voted for, time to live in the utopia you created.
sasquatch2 @ Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:24 am
Diogenes
CKA Elite
$1:
You perhaps have heard of the Monroe doctrine/ Manifest Destiny?
There are those Americans who in their arrogance belief this continent is theirs for the taking and the has been a conspiracy to do so
No “theory”, Flat out intention!
There are those Americans who in their arrogance belief this continent is theirs for the taking and the has been a conspiracy to do so
No “theory”, Flat out intention!
Doctrine and theories are different matters.
"The Protocols of The Elders of Zion" is another doctrine.
Chets @ Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:47 pm
I just finished a conversation with a receptionist at a specialist's office. My doctor referred me in October. In January, I was told I was on the top of the list in regards to priority. I did not hear from them; it had only been six months since seeing my doctor and three months of being put in a priority position.
I was told I might have to wait another 4 months. A ten month wait is disgutingly unacceptable. If this is the shining piece of our national identity, what does that say?
I lived the past two years in Europe. I had knee surgery one week after initial consultation. My wife had similar experiences. Yes, 14% of our paycheques went towards health care, but at least the system works.
We tolerate this awful system because we fear the American system. For the majority of Canadians, the American system would probably be better. I support publicly funded health care, but no govt. has the balls to raise taxes to a level in which we could get adequate care.
Weak kneed and timid Canada tolerates too much.
anas555 @ Wed May 07, 2008 1:57 pm
America is a place lots of people dream to go well for instance my uncle went to America at about 1962 it's a long time ago he went there to study at the university he went to California and then he studied at oklahoma city then he has lived there for 2 years after graduating, so he talk to me about that country he always begin his story with a smile that smile which we do when we remember our cool minutes well he didn't earn alot of money he didn't married our loved an American girl he doesn't still got anyfriends whom they are still there ,so why it is amazing to him why and i asked him why? he said to me a word i believe in it "people do what they dream to do in happiness there and they have their own style of life respectedthey can do there odd job or there odd habits there it is a place that people made a long time ago for thier own freedom and it is so to these days these staffs you cannot make at anyplace in the world except in the USA" .
well what iam saying now time is changing America does not like that paradise anymore it is still good place but not like what it was.
so i think Canada has its own great culture which it is too charming but we have to believe in it, we are very good when we belive in ourselves we can do whatever we want when we give ourselves a chance.
anas555
Brent Swain @ Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:13 pm
How does all this BR>/BR>/ stuff get inserted in the messages? Is big brother simply trying to make it less readable, so fewer will bother? How does one get rid of it?
Brent
Brent Swain @ Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:23 pm
In most situations Canadians ask" What is best for all?" Yanks ask "Whats in it for me? Screw everybody else" or "Should I shoot him or sue him?" I've also worked in the US . The difference is huge, and I only relax when I'm back on Canadian soil.The chip on shoulders there is obvious, and the tension is felt everywhere.
Public health care is a symptom of our way of thinking, just as the sending in of Blackwater mercenaries to shoot people as a reponse to hurricane Katrina is a symptom of their way of thinking. That is a huge difference.
In the Winnipeg floods, we didn't send the military in to shoot people , they only went there to sandbag, in the Canadian government tradition.
Yanks are more oblivious to the difference, for Canadians, and Europenans it is obvious.
After visiting the US, Europeans all say Canada feels a lot more like Europe.
Brent