Canada Kicks Ass
Are Americans Sexier than Canadians?

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Ruxpercnd @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:19 am

Look, America has 295 million kick ass people and Canada only has 32 million. I think Canada could really kick ass if you would just make more babies and fast!

So what does it mean that America has a fertility rate of 2.08 births per woman and Canada has only 1.61 births per woman?

Is it possible that Americans are just plain sexier? ... That American men are bigger studs?


The stats:

Canada
Population:
32,805,041 (July 2005 est.)
Age structure:
0-14 years: 17.9% (male 3,016,032/female 2,869,244)
15-64 years: 68.9% (male 11,357,425/female 11,244,356)
65 years and over: 13.2% (male 1,842,496/female 2,475,488) (2005 est.)
Median age:
total: 38.54 years
male: 37.54 years
female: 39.56 years (2005 est.)
Population growth rate:
0.9% (2005 est.)
Birth rate:
10.84 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Death rate:
7.73 deaths/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Net migration rate:
5.9 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Sex ratio:
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.01 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.74 male(s)/female
total population: 0.98 male(s)/female (2005 est.)
Infant mortality rate:
total: 4.75 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 5.21 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 4.27 deaths/1,000 live births (2005 est.)
Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 80.1 years
male: 76.73 years
female: 83.63 years (2005 est.)
Total fertility rate:
1.61 children born/woman (2005 est.)


United States
Population:
295,734,134 (July 2005 est.)
Age structure:
0-14 years: 20.6% (male 31,095,725/female 29,703,997)
15-64 years: 67% (male 98,914,382/female 99,324,126)
65 years and over: 12.4% (male 15,298,676/female 21,397,228) (2005 est.)
Median age:
total: 36.27 years
male: 34.94 years
female: 37.6 years (2005 est.)
Population growth rate:
0.92% (2005 est.)
Birth rate:
14.14 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Death rate:
8.25 deaths/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Net migration rate:
3.31 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Sex ratio:
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.72 male(s)/female
total population: 0.97 male(s)/female (2005 est.)
Infant mortality rate:
total: 6.5 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 7.17 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 5.8 deaths/1,000 live births (2005 est.)
Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 77.71 years
male: 74.89 years
female: 80.67 years (2005 est.)
Total fertility rate:
2.08 children born/woman (2005 est.)

   



canucker @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:43 am

Why would we want to overpopulate our country? Then we might have alot of the problems that are happening in the States. One of the reasons I love Canada is that we aren't as crowded here.

   



harzer_knaller @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:47 am

Yeah, and think of the criminals and the pollution, if Canada had about 300.000.000 inhabitants it wont be that great I think...

It's better to have 32.000.000 nice and kindly inhabitants than 300.000.000 not so nice and friendly ones...

   



LittleBastard @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:00 am

harzer_knaller harzer_knaller:
Yeah, and think of the criminals and the pollution, if Canada had about 300.000.000 inhabitants it wont be that great I think...

It's better to have 32.000.000 nice and kindly inhabitants than 300.000.000 not so nice and friendly ones...


I can't say that I totally disagree with you.... however just remember that we aren't all @ssholes here and anywhere you travel in the world you will ALWAYS run into the "not so nice one's"!?

Anyway... the problem with the men in Canada is that they have such pure clean water to drink. Try drinking the contaminated/enhanced water in the U.S.!? It causes all kinds of things to grow larger than normal... that's got to be why we are looked at as being "bigger studs"!? LOL :)

   



ShepherdsDog @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:13 am

What a lame question. That's like asking are Austrians more sexy than Germans or if people from Wessex are sexier than people from East Anglia. You're just trying to be a

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DerbyX @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:02 am

Birth rate is far more influenced by education, culture and various socio-economic factors then "sexiness". We've all seen the 6 kid families on cops and they were all beaten with the ugly stick. The hard facts are that more poor and uneducated someone is the greater the chance of having kids at an early age and the greater the number they seem to have. It is a comentary on western lifestyles as this is true for Canada, USA, UK, Australia, etc. A declining birth rate has been a large problem in western society because it makes us more dependant on immigration.

   



hwacker @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:11 am

DerbyX DerbyX:
Birth rate is far more influenced by education, culture and various socio-economic factors then "sexiness". We've all seen the 6 kid families on cops and they were all beaten with the ugly stick. The hard facts are that more poor and uneducated someone is the greater the chance of having kids at an early age and the greater the number they seem to have. It is a comentary on western lifestyles as this is true for Canada, USA, UK, Australia, etc. A declining birth rate has been a large problem in western society because it makes us more dependant on immigration.


So who are the smart ones?

300 years from now there will be no white people on the earth cause they are too smart to have babies?

I guess that’s a atheist view point tho

Or maybe abortion has a roll in this little problem we are having.

   



Ruxpercnd @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:49 am

Ok... let's have a semi-serious discussion here.

A birth rate of less than 2.0 per Canadian woman means that the indigineous population is not keeping up. You have to have at least 2 kids per couple to replace, right?

Canada's population growth rate is sustained by a lower mortality rate and a higher immigration rate than the U.S.. While the net growth rate of the two countries is about the same, almost 1%, the difference is that Canada's population will be sustained with more old people and immigrants.

Not to feel bad, Canada is pretty much in line with industrialized Europe.

However, I find the difference in fertility rate between America and Canada to be striking. America is such a mixed bag that I think it's not easy to understand what is going on here.

However Canada should be easier to understand. I would think that with Canada's high level of social services and broad medical system, that citizens would feel easier about having more kids.

So what is going up there?

If Canada is going to rely on immigration, then I would think that eventually a lot of Americans will spill over the border with cash in hand to buy up the goodies.

I own some timeshare in Canada. The folks who sold it to us said that they were only selling to Americans, not Canadians. Will this trickle turn into a flood?

   



FireWire @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:04 am

canucker canucker:
Why would we want to overpopulate our country? Then we might have alot of the problems that are happening in the States. One of the reasons I love Canada is that we aren't as crowded here.


They didn't count in beavers and mooses :lol:

   



Thematic-Device @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:19 am

DerbyX DerbyX:
Birth rate is far more influenced by education, culture and various socio-economic factors then "sexiness". We've all seen the 6 kid families on cops and they were all beaten with the ugly stick. The hard facts are that more poor and uneducated someone is the greater the chance of having kids at an early age and the greater the number they seem to have. It is a comentary on western lifestyles as this is true for Canada, USA, UK, Australia, etc. A declining birth rate has been a large problem in western society because it makes us more dependant on immigration.


From what I've read it is largely first generation immigrants who push up our birth rate. 2nd, and 3rd generation have the same rates as the general population. Can't say I object, it slows down the greying of our population.

   



BartSimpson @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:33 am

The US birthrate is being bulked up by immigrants that Canada does not have. The birthrates for 2nd and 3rd generation Americans would be on par with Canadians.

And, IMHO, Canadian girls are far sexier than American girls. American girls may have better looks in some ways, but the Canadian girls have that certain something that just makes you say, "Damn!" :D

   



Ruxpercnd @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:54 am

$1:
The US birthrate is being bulked up by immigrants that Canada does not have. The birthrates for 2nd and 3rd generation Americans would be on par with Canadians.


I understand what you are saying. In fact there has been some talk here about the "Greying of America". However, I see that Canada currently has a higher net immigration rate than the U.S., Canada - 5.9 per thousand, America 3.31 per thousand. That is net.

In addition I would believe that more of the best and brightest Canadians are blending into America, more than Americans retire to Canada.

It wouldn't hurt Canada to just double the birth rate for about five years. You could absorb it and be a stronger Canada for it.

   



BartSimpson @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:02 am

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:
$1:
The US birthrate is being bulked up by immigrants that Canada does not have. The birthrates for 2nd and 3rd generation Americans would be on par with Canadians.


I understand what you are saying. In fact there has been some talk here about the "Greying of America". However, I see that Canada currently has a higher net immigration rate than the U.S., Canada - 5.9 per thousand, America 3.31 per thousand. That is net.

In addition I would believe that more of the best and brightest Canadians are blending into America, more than Americans retire to Canada.

It wouldn't hurt Canada to just double the birth rate for about five years. You could absorb it and be a stronger Canada for it.


It's not the actual number or per capita of immigrants I'm referring to, it's the fact that the US gets more Catholic immigrants (Mexican and Latin American) than does Canada and they have typically Catholic birthrates. I was trying to stay out of particulars because there's always someone out there willing to scream about racism whenever specifics get mentioned in these issues.

3rd generation Mexican-Americans are little different from anyone else in the US, but 1st generation Mexicans have scads of kids.

   



Ruxpercnd @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:20 am

$1:
3rd generation Mexican-Americans are little different from anyone else in the US, but 1st generation Mexicans have scads of kids.


There may be a misconception in your comments. Stats show that Mexico has a Population growth rate 1.17% and a fertility rate of 2.45 children born/woman. This is higher than America but not outrageous. What Mexico lacks is an economy. (interesting article: 4 of 10 Mexicans would move to U.S., poll finds - http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/n ... oll17.html )

But lets talk about Canada, boundaries won't protect your Canadian life style. I Think Canada and Europe are due for massive changes due to immigration. It will be a very different Canada. All you have to do is have more kids to keep it going.



Mexico
Population:
106,202,903 (July 2005 est.)
Age structure:
0-14 years: 31.1% (male 16,844,400/female 16,159,511)
15-64 years: 63.3% (male 32,521,043/female 34,704,093)
65 years and over: 5.6% (male 2,715,010/female 3,258,846) (2005 est.)
Median age:
total: 24.93 years
male: 24.04 years
female: 25.85 years (2005 est.)
Population growth rate:
1.17% (2005 est.)
Birth rate:
21.01 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Death rate:
4.73 deaths/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Net migration rate:
-4.57 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2005 est.)
Sex ratio:
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.04 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.94 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.83 male(s)/female
total population: 0.96 male(s)/female (2005 est.)
Infant mortality rate:
total: 20.91 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 22.85 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 18.88 deaths/1,000 live births (2005 est.)
Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 75.19 years
male: 72.42 years
female: 78.1 years (2005 est.)
Total fertility rate:
2.45 children born/woman (2005 est.)

   



Thematic-Device @ Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:28 am

Its because prosperity has a positive effect upon brith rates, while education and culture have negative effects upon birth rates

The first generation immigrants are largely not completely assimilated into the culture, nor have many of them gone through as much schooling. So the increased prosperity in the US has them feeling that they can support the larger family and they can. However, the children are thinking that they can offer their one or two kids an extremely high standard of living. It's simply a different view on what the increased prosperity means.

   



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