Bush is here... Put out the welcome mat...
You showed up here shouting rhetoric that goes against what most Canadians have said that they want while proclaiming you were from the "Free Republic of Alberta." There was nothing jovial in your tone or your words.
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No problem Roc this is only one persons opinion .
No, this is fact, not an opinion. The Liberal Party, which Ms. Parrish used to belong to and still shares most of her political leanings with, occupies the middle ground in the Canadian political spectrum. We have one right-wing party which is going by the name "Conservative" this year, but they change their name often...kind of like a criminal on the run. The New Democratic Party represents the mainstream left. The Bloc Quebecois are also considered left-leaning, though they do not run candidates outside of Quebec. There are several smaller parties not yet represented in parliament that fit into various parts of the political spectrum.
A person who challenges the fact of the wide spectrum of Canadian politics is simply voicing an opinion, albeit a less than informed one.
Roc @ Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:45 pm
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
Shows how little you understand about Canada Roc....Carolyn Parrish is part of the centre of the Canadian political spectrum. That spectrum is more in tune with other industrialized nations than the United States is.
In the US, Parrish is the extreme left. Shows how much you understand Americans. When she refers to Americans as, "bastards," it means something. She and her extremists friends on the left are destroying what Americans and Canadians have between us.
People on the far left, like Parrish, will cause irreversible damage if they persist in their rhetoric.
xerxes @ Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:53 pm
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People on the far left, like Parrish, will cause irreversible damage if they persist in their rhetoric.
So will people on the right Roc. You are right though. In the US, people like Ms. Parrish are considered the "extreme left". But then, so is every single Democrat in the US (except for that Zell Miller weirdo).
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In the US, Parrish is the extreme left. Shows how much you understand Americans.
Oh, I understand just fine. You are not in your own country here though and to expect us to adapt our standards to yours in our home would be arrogant and rude. I know you wish, as a representative of your country, to be humble and polite.
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When she refers to Americans as, "bastards," it means something.
When we here that you refer to our Prime Minister as "Dino" it means something.
When your president breaks protocol and refuses to visit Canada for four years it means something.
When you illegally invade a sovereign state, then throw a hissy fit against the countries that wouldn't help you do that, it means something.
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People on the far left, like Parrish, will cause irreversible damage if they persist in their rhetoric.
People on the left, right and centre (like Parrish) will allow irreversible damage to occur to our country if they don't speak out.
Robair @ Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:29 pm
xerxes xerxes:
So will people on the right Roc. You are right though. In the US, people like Ms. Parrish are considered the "extreme left". But then, so is every single Democrat in the US (except for that Zell Miller weirdo).
Somehow anybody who is anti-neoconservative bacame labled a 'lib' down here.
Plenty of traditional conservatives are disgusted with the current Whitehouse administration for good reason.
Bush's actions have not been conservative, so applying labels like 'lib' don't really work here. Pledging allegiance to a political party (like Republican for example) is not a good idea. You shouldn't be voting for someone because of what they are 'supposed' to stand for. You must hold them resposible, that is what the vote is for. That is not what has happened down here.
The last thing Canada needs is to fall in line behind bush because it will be economically better for Canada in the short run. Just forget about what you feel is right and wrong for a few quick bucks?
Canada is supposed to be apollogetic for not going to Iraq? Bush and co. tried to dupe Canada into an illegal war. Turns out, Canada got it right. No WMD and no links to 9/11. No threat whatsoever. Who should be doing the apollogizing and sucking up here??
Andem @ Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:35 pm
Roc Roc:
I believe you are misunderstanding the role of president. What are you saying, "...look beyond your borders." What do they do in Canada? Elect someone who has the best interests of Mongolia in mind? Or Canada? It may come as a surprise, but we elect a president based what he is going to do for US not SOMEONE else. I mean really. What do you think a national leader is for?
So I will ask you again. Can you prove the "...world hates Bush," or is this another exaggeration?
Roc, I really don't think it's necessary for me to prove the numbers. I can tell you that 70-80% consistantly throughout the world have a "dislike or hate" for Mr. Bush.
I'm sorry, but if you don't know that, then you might just be living in a dream world. Two notable places which dislike the man are Europe and Canada.
I can't find the exact numbers I was thinking of but here's something for ya:$1:
Majorities in the three countries - historically Washington’s closest NATO partners - also said that as a consequence of the war they had less confidence that the United States is trustworthy. Mistrust was expressed by 82 percent in Germany, 78 percent in France and 58 percent in Britain.
It's shown up on polls and all over the international press, Andem. If Roc isn;t aware of the numbers it's because he doesn't want to be.
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
You showed up here shouting rhetoric that goes against what most Canadians have said that they want while proclaiming you were from the "Free Republic of Alberta." There was nothing jovial in your tone or your words..
Blair says “shouting rhetoric” (Reality asking some hard questions that made him uncomfortable)
“proclaiming you were from the "Free Republic of Alberta.” So Blair this a crime to?If I were to list the outrageous things you’ve said verse me it would be hundred to one against you. So from now if you bring up my previous statements they’ll have no effect at silencing me as you would desire.You’re going to have to do better at keeping me muzzled. Come on put same effort into it.
Anyway back to the subject of this tread
Roc Roc:
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
Shows how little you understand about Canada Roc....Carolyn Parrish is part of the centre of the Canadian political spectrum. That spectrum is more in tune with other industrialized nations than the United States is.
In the US, Parrish is the extreme left. Shows how much you understand Americans. When she refers to Americans as, " s," it means something. She and her extremists friends on the left are destroying what Americans and Canadians have between us.
People on the far left, like Parrish, will cause irreversible damage if they persist in their rhetoric.
What you say is completely accurate Roc .Every where I go in Alberta all people 100 % of them support George Bush. We think he’s awesome .Blair no more speaks for millions of Canadians than I do .Anyway you know where I stand .Any further discussion will be merely a verbal ping pong game.
Yeah, whatever, True North.
Back to the thread, indeed. Why should we use Bush as a doormat? Because he's earned it.
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What you say is completely accurate Roc .Every where I go in Alberta all people 100 % of them support George Bush. We think he’s awesome .Blair no more speaks for millions of Canadians than I do .Anyway you know where I stand .Any further discussion will be merely a verbal ping pong game.
I don't claim to represent anybody but myself. What most Canadians say in polls is another matter though, True North. It's a far more accurate measure than your claim of whoever you talk to in Alberta.
You've kind of excluded yourself from this discussion with your last line though.
blubs @ Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:39 am
What you say is completely accurate Roc .Every where I go in Alberta all people 100 % of them support George Bush. We think he’s awesome .Blair no more speaks for millions of Canadians than I do .Anyway you know where I stand .Any further discussion will be merely a verbal ping pong game.[/quote]
Uh just where do you go in Alberta ? Have you talked to the whole province ? Well if you have you missed a few . Because I for one and a hell of a lot more do not support Bush . I am an Albertan born and raised and love this province and I will be damned if a airhead like you is gonna speak up for me and a hell of a lot of others in this province . It is people like who who give Albertans a bad name .
You just said" Rev speaks no more for Canadians than I do" Aren"t you kinda contradicting yourself cause you are seem to be speaking for all of
alberta .
I'm not going to go searching for the poll, but it seems to me that slightly less than half of Albertans supported Bush and/or Iraq. They were the province that liked him best.
Go figure.
Bush is here for his agenda. Missile sheild. He doesn't care about us. He didn't care if Martin is sitting on a land mine.
Bomark all again... 
All to true, Mario. Martin didn't even bring up missile defence, Bush did. Harper proudly stands up and links trade to "security"...missile defence.