Canadian vs. American Healthcare
CanAm @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:01 am
I dont think either Country has a great Healthcare system. From some Canadians stating the number of doctors is dwindling and finding a doctor is poor to Americans complaining of the uninsured and paying alot.
Personally,I don't like the US system because of the insurance companies. Insurance companies are not in the business of healthcare to cover your illness, they're agenda is to find ways not to cover your bill. They're bottom line is to make money for the Sharelholders...........Nuff said
With that in mind, I was wondering you're feelings and thoughts on improving our healthcare systems to make both much more accessible and productive
Thanks in advance
Tman1 @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:04 pm
Flame bait thread......

When lived in Canada i loved the healthcare, well only for the fact it was almost fully covered. My mother, a while ago, had an operation that would have cost her over $65, 000 do to in the states for pennis in Canada. The bad thing is she had to wait nearly 2 years. In the sttes, however, she would have only waited 2 weeks. And this was a major sergury so while waiting she could do nothing until her wait was up. Couldn't walk at all.
In America they fiend for your money. Everytime i go to the doctor i always walk out with the most expensive drug, no answers and another appointment. In Canada i was out of their right away with the cheapest drug (which always worked just as well) and the doctor saying "I dont wanna see you." They say that as a joke, but i actually think they are serious because it costs the government money.
Now, what I do believe that should happen is mash the 2 together:
-Keep the free health care in Canada with the long waits, but also have hospitals where you can pay them like you would in America. So if you have the money to pay for an excrucial operation you can. Like in the case of mother, she would walk in pay and get the operation in 2 weeks.
-For those less fortunate they can use the free health care with the longer waits, but hey its free and you will get that surgery.
So, you have your free hospitals with longs waits.
And you have your hospitals where u dont have to wait but u have to pay.
CanAm @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:15 pm
Never thought about it that way T. As a matter of fact, almost all the Posts are depending upon the individual state of mind 
When lived in Canada i loved the healthcare, well only for the fact it was almost fully covered. My mother, a while ago, had an operation that would have cost her over $65, 000 do to in the states for pennis in Canada. The bad thing is she had to wait nearly 2 years. In the sttes, however, she would have only waited 2 weeks. And this was a major sergury so while waiting she could do nothing until her wait was up. Couldn't walk at all.
In America they fiend for your money. Everytime i go to the doctor i always walk out with the most expensive drug, no answers and another appointment. In Canada i was out of their right away with the cheapest drug (which always worked just as well) and the doctor saying "I dont wanna see you." They say that as a joke, but i actually think they are serious because it costs the government money.
Now, what I do believe that should happen is mash the 2 together:
-Keep the free health care in Canada with the long waits, but also have hospitals where you can pay them like you would in America. So if you have the money to pay for an excrucial operation you can. Like in the case of mother, she would walk in pay and get the operation in 2 weeks.
-For those less fortunate they can use the free health care with the longer waits, but hey its free and you will get that surgery.
So, you have your free hospitals with longs waits.
And you have your hospitals where u dont have to wait but u have to pay.
CanAm @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:17 pm
CanadianHeat CanadianHeat:
When lived in Canada i loved the healthcare, well only for the fact it was almost fully covered. My mother, a while ago, had an operation that would have cost her over $65, 000 do to in the states for pennis in Canada. The bad thing is she had to wait nearly 2 years. In the sttes, however, she would have only waited 2 weeks. And this was a major sergury so while waiting she could do nothing until her wait was up. Couldn't walk at all.
In America they fiend for your money. Everytime i go to the doctor i always walk out with the most expensive drug, no answers and another appointment. In Canada i was out of their right away with the cheapest drug (which always worked just as well) and the doctor saying "I dont wanna see you." They say that as a joke, but i actually think they are serious because it costs the government money.
Now, what I do believe that should happen is mash the 2 together:
-Keep the free health care in Canada with the long waits, but also have hospitals where you can pay them like you would in America. So if you have the money to pay for an excrucial operation you can. Like in the case of mother, she would walk in pay and get the operation in 2 weeks.
-For those less fortunate they can use the free health care with the longer waits, but hey its free and you will get that surgery.
So, you have your free hospitals with longs waits.
And you have your hospitals where u dont have to wait but u have to pay.
You make some good points...thanks
CanadianHeat CanadianHeat:
Now, what I do believe that should happen is mash the 2 together:
-Keep the free health care in Canada with the long waits, but also have hospitals where you can pay them like you would in America. So if you have the money to pay for an excrucial operation you can. Like in the case of mother, she would walk in pay and get the operation in 2 weeks.
-For those less fortunate they can use the free health care with the longer waits, but hey its free and you will get that surgery.
So, you have your free hospitals with longs waits.
And you have your hospitals where u dont have to wait but u have to pay.
So basically you just described the US Health Care System.
CanAm @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:40 pm
Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:
CanadianHeat CanadianHeat:
Now, what I do believe that should happen is mash the 2 together:
-Keep the free health care in Canada with the long waits, but also have hospitals where you can pay them like you would in America. So if you have the money to pay for an excrucial operation you can. Like in the case of mother, she would walk in pay and get the operation in 2 weeks.
-For those less fortunate they can use the free health care with the longer waits, but hey its free and you will get that surgery.
So, you have your free hospitals with longs waits.
And you have your hospitals where u dont have to wait but u have to pay.
So basically you just described the US Health Care System.
Similar Yank but not the same.............doctors in the US discriminate against medicade/medicare. Some down right dont except them....that's a fact...........not only that, but it's the insurance companies that make the decision whether to cover your injury or illness..................NOT
CanAm CanAm:
I dont think either Country has a great Healthcare system. From some Canadians stating the number of doctors is dwindling and finding a doctor is poor to Americans complaining of the uninsured and paying alot.
Personally,I don't like the US system because of the insurance companies. Insurance companies are not in the business of healthcare to cover your illness, they're agenda is to find ways not to cover your bill. They're bottom line is to make money for the Sharelholders...........Nuff said
With that in mind, I was wondering you're feelings and thoughts on improving our healthcare systems to make both much more accessible and productive
Thanks in advance
It was so very objective of you to make long negative statements about the US healthcare system, but virtually nothing negative about the Canadian healthcare system.
Nuff said.
RUEZ @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:53 pm
American American:
Nuff said.
Ha ha, nuff said. Only cool people say stuff like that.
American American:
CanAm CanAm:
I dont think either Country has a great Healthcare system. From some Canadians stating the number of doctors is dwindling and finding a doctor is poor to Americans complaining of the uninsured and paying alot.
Personally,I don't like the US system because of the insurance companies. Insurance companies are not in the business of healthcare to cover your illness, they're agenda is to find ways not to cover your bill. They're bottom line is to make money for the Sharelholders...........Nuff said
With that in mind, I was wondering you're feelings and thoughts on improving our healthcare systems to make both much more accessible and productive
Thanks in advance
It was so very objective of you to make long negative statements about the US healthcare system, but virtually nothing negative about the Canadian healthcare system.
Nuff said.
The Negative= lines one two and three...looks for italics.......
Obviously CanAm has his opinion (hint, he started with "Personally, I don't like..."), and you're free to share your own, American.
I think a healthcare system that is based on insurance companies is inheriently flawed. If people are, in the slightest, making decisions on their health based on money, their health is going to suffer.
Money is quite obviously a concern, but it's the hospital administrators, doctors, etc, who should deal with this. Personal health should be the only concern of the general public.
DerbyX @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:55 pm
$1:
Money is quite obviously a concern, but it's the hospital administrators, doctors, etc, who should deal with this.
While I agree with much of what you say I should point out that hospital administrators are the absolute worst choice for deciding because they are all about the worst parts of budget concerns. Doctors are a better choice but they are very often swayed by those looking for "referals", kickbacks or perks from drug companies, etc. The truth is the best person to decide is the patient in conjunction with the advice from their doctor with a second opinion if needed (and in my world the sky is green).
CanAm @ Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:17 pm
American American:
CanAm CanAm:
I dont think either Country has a great Healthcare system. From some Canadians stating the number of doctors is dwindling and finding a doctor is poor to Americans complaining of the uninsured and paying alot.
Personally,I don't like the US system because of the insurance companies. Insurance companies are not in the business of healthcare to cover your illness, they're agenda is to find ways not to cover your bill. They're bottom line is to make money for the Sharelholders...........Nuff said
With that in mind, I was wondering you're feelings and thoughts on improving our healthcare systems to make both much more accessible and productive
Thanks in advance
It was so very objective of you to make long negative statements about the US healthcare system, but virtually nothing negative about the Canadian healthcare system.
Nuff said.
It was my opinion only American............that's what I stated. These are incidents I've observed since I've resided in both countries at one time or another.
I stated in the beginning, "Personally" in one of my sentences. If that's a bias, then so be it. But, I did mention what I've observed or what I've been told by others about the Canadian system too. You just need to read it and open your mind!
CanadianHeat CanadianHeat:
In America they fiend for your money. Everytime i go to the doctor i always walk out with the most expensive drug, no answers and another appointment. In Canada i was out of their right away with the cheapest drug (which always worked just as well) and the doctor saying "I dont wanna see you." They say that as a joke, but i actually think they are serious because it costs the government money.
Depends on the doctor, mine have ussually offered the generic drug first, and they'll always do it if you ask (if there is one).
Personally I think the national canadian healthcare system could stand competition, all the complaints of it creating a system of injustice are ludicrous. If that is the reason for keeping out private healthcare systems, then it is more about depriving people of better care, in the name of equality, then actually giving better care to the populace as a whole.