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excuse me, please elaborate and provide proof of your assertion. I know plenty that came here to avoid military service.



JK

http://jusinkase.blogspot.com

   

Jusin,

We don't have a draft in the States, although I did have to fill out a card to register when I was 18 as I recall, a long time ago.

I have thought about leaving the US for Canada possibly, which would be funny because my Dad left Canda for the US back in the 60's.

My reasons are;

1. Disguist with Bush and the Government in General
2. The impending financial collapse of the US Dollar
3. The priorities of general American population, ie. mass consumption and materialsim, lack of saving money, etc.
4. The growing diparity between the haves and have nots.

Now let me say not all Americans are Bush-loving, material, savingless, consumers, but alot of them sure appear to be.

I have a friend in Canada and some of my relatives are Canadian so it is interesting to compare and contrast. This website is great. I wonder if all of the freedoms we have in the US are such a good thing? For example, an armed population with a high crime rate relative to other industralized countries. I believe the highest rate of incarceration for a civilized poplulation. Don't get wrong, America is not all bad, it has alot of great things to offer. I am just concerned most about a finacial wipeout and secondly a dirty bomb.

   

say goodbye to your paycheck. Income tax is a killer

   

You can look at the Canada Immigration website and they give you the "official" party line. But like everything else there is a reality check.

1. Canada wants immigrants from the third world ostensibly they want newcomers to feel gratitude for and vote Librano.

2. Canada does not want "white" immigrants from Europe (because they might vote conservative) and we feel we have had enough from there and it is only racists that support European immigrants and thus places a higher entry level standard on them to bar their entry. (Before you lieberals all attack me how many uneducated people under 30 from all of Europe have you met compared to say just the country of Jamaica?

3. Canada places the US in the same category as Europe so expect to have a lot more problems then say an Iranian terrorist who has publicly stated his hatred for America.

So unless you are gay, a drug dealer being persecuted for their beliefs, a Black Panther or a noted Hollywood lieberal type then you better start looking to marry into the family.

   

If you really believe that, then you are FUBAr in the head, my prairie friend.

   

It was mentioned before but I will reiterate, if you're still 16 than I would really consider doing post secondary in Canada. We have some phenmonal schools, especially in BC.

UBC is great and in my opinion is worlds above McGill (but I went to school there so maybe I'm a little biased). BC Institue of Technology is also a great school to get trades training.

From what I remember talking to foreign students at UBC, it wasn't difficult to get student visas and once your in the country getting a summer work visa was no problem. If you do a four year degree than I believe your only one year from permanent resident status.

Anyway might be something to look into.

   

Canadianisms
As a Canadian, you have to be extra vigilant. There are a lot of impostors out there. If you suspect that someone is falsely trying to pass themselves off as a Canadian, make the following statement - and then carefully note their reaction:

"Last night, I cashed my pogey and went to buy a mickey of C.C. at the beer parlour, but my skidoo got stuck in the muskeg on my way back to the duplex. I was trying to deke out a deer, you see. Damn chinook, melted everything. And then a Mountie snuck up behind me in a ghost car and gave me an impaired. I was S.O.L., sitting there dressed only in my Stanfields and a toque at the time. And the Mountie, he's all chippy and everything, calling me a "shit disturber" and what not. What could I say, except, "Sorry, EH!"

If the person you are talking to nods sympathetically, they're one of us. If, however, they stare at you with a blank incomprehension, they are not a real Canadian. Have them reported to the authorities at once. The passage cited above contains no fewer than 19 different Canadianisms.

In order:
* pogey: EI (Employment insurance). Money provided by the government for not working.
* mickey: A small bottle of booze (13 oz) (A Texas mickey, on the other hand, is a ridiculously big bottle of booze, which, despite the name, is still a Canadianism through and through.)
* C.C.: Canadian Club, a brand of rye. Not to be confused with "hockey stick," another kind of Canadian Club.
* beer parlour: Like an ice cream parlour, but for Canadians.
* skidoo: Self-propelled decapitation unit for teenagers, (Snow-Mobiles)
* muskeg: Boggy swampland.
* duplex: A single building divided in half with two sets of inhabitants, each trying to pretend the other doesn't exist while at the same time managing to drive each other crazy; metaphor for Canada's French and English.
* deke: Used as a verb, it means "to fool an opponent through skillful misdirection." As a noun, it is used most often in exclamatory constructions, such as: "Whadda deke!" Meaning, "My, what an impressive display of physical dexterity employing misdirection and guile."
* chinook: An unseasonably warm wind that comes over the Rockies and onto the plains, melting snow banks in Calgary but just missing Edmonton, much to the pleasure of Calgarians.
* Mountie: Canadian icon, strong of jaw, red of coat, pure of heart. Always get their man! (See also Pepper spray, uses of.)
* snuck: To have sneaked; to move, past tense, in a sneaky manner; non-restrictive extended semi gerundial form of "did sneak." (We think.)
* ghost car: An unmarked police car, easily identifiable by its inconspicuousness.
* impaired: A charge of drunk driving. Used both as a noun and as an adjective (the alternative adjectival form of "impaired" being "pissed to the gills").
* S.O.L.: Shit outta luck; in an unfortunate predicament.
* Stanfields: Men's underwear, especially Grandpa-style, white cotton ones with a big elastic waistband and a large superfluous flap in the front and back!
* toque: Canada's official National Head Apparel, with about the same suave sex appeal as a pair of Stanfields.
* chippy: Behaviour that is inappropriately aggressive; constantly looking for a reason to find offense; from "chip on one's shoulder." (See Western Canada)
* shit disturber: (See Quebec) a troublemaker or provocateur. According to Katherine Barber, editor in Chief of the Canadian Oxford Dictionary,"shit disturber" is a distinctly Canadian term. (Just remember that Western Canada is chippy and Quebec is a shit disturber, and you will do fine.)
*please distribute to all your patriotic Canuck friends, eh!

   

Ok, here is what your own BC boy,government hack and probably the most knowledgeable person on the subject of immigration in Canada, Martin Collacott, had to say:

"While Ottawa has not released any figures on the overall cost of immigration to the Canadian taxpayer, it is likely that they are high, particularly during the past two decades when the overall economic performance of newcomers has fallen significantly below that of both earlier immigrants and people born in Canada. A major reason for this decline has been the priority given to family class immigrants, none of whom is required to bring with them either marketable skills or a knowledge of one of our official languages.

The government's principal reason for promoting high immigration levels is the belief that most newcomers will vote for the Liberal Party in federal elections. This is particularly true of family class immigration, which is the least successful category in terms of economic performance and should be significantly curtailed.

In addition to the lack of economic and demographic justification for current immigration levels and priorities, there are indications of social problems arising from the difficulties many immigrants encounter in adapting to the Canadian workforce and society. The important progress Canada has made in becoming a more tolerant and welcoming country to people from all over the world will be placed at risk if we fail to bring immigration levels and priorities in line with our economic and demographic needs and absorptive capacity. The government's claim that we require immigration in order to cope with an anticipated shortage of skilled workers is of questionable validity."

Collacot has 30 years of service in the Department of External Affairs for Canada. His assignments included Director General for Security Services and in this capacity he was responsible for the coordination of counter-terrorism policy at the international level.

He has represented Canada's Department of External Affairs in Indochina, Hong Kong, Lagos, and Tokyo. During the late 1960s, he served as the Chinese-speaking member of the Canadian negotiating team which established diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China.

Later in his career, Mr. Collacott was appointed as High Commissioner to Sri Lanka, Ambassador to Syria and Lebanon, and as Ambassador to Cambodia. In the course of these assignments he had major responsibilities for delivery of immigration and refugee programs.

   

LOL That's brilliant Ziggy!! I'm sending it to all my coworkers here in Scotland lol

   

If you want to leave cause of your disgust for Bush and the goverment you are not a very intelligent person. Because it is your local goverment that effects your life on a daily basis. So if you want a more liberal govertment move to a more liberal state.

The impending collapse of the US dollar ? Moving to Canada would not save you from this. Moving almost any where in the world would not save you from this. Also what is your reasoning that the dollar is going to collapse? Thank god europeans dont think like you cause it would be empty right now! cause its the euro that looks like its going to collapse.

What makes you think Canadians are not just like you said in comment 3?

Canada's middle class is dispearing faster then a snowball in hell. The goverment takes all of thier money.

So maybe you should do some intelligent research before making general statements.

OOOO and by the way I wish you would move to Canada we have enough dead beats here already.

   

You know normally I don't bother with these urban right-wing myth posts but braindead you need some setting straight

look at these figures (Page 32)http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/facts2004.pdf

now according to this (albeit from 2004), a sample of the source countries for permanent residents breaks down as follows...

China 36,411 Rank #1
India 25,569 Rank #2
Iran 6,063 Rank #6
United Kingdom 6,058 Rank #7
France 5,026 Rank #10

China and India's population is 1bn each and the UK's is 60m, that's roughly 17 times as big. If white immigrantion applicants are being discriminated against then how come only 6 times as many Chinese became residents as Brits and only 4 times as many Indians. I couldn't find any stats on applications by country but considering the respective standards of living I'm pretty sure its safe to assume proportionately more Chinese and Indians applied for immigration than Brits.

   

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