Canada Kicks Ass
MP fired for having a spine

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ofaolain @ Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:14 pm

The only other politician that I ever heard of that had balls like that was trudeau. LOL

   



Tonto @ Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:17 pm

8)........very interesting comments...I am new to this site so I will kind of feel my way around....

Dont even try to compare Parrish to Trudeau....He was a politician who could say with words that Parrish would not even be able to comprehend. She will never be that classy...

In my opinion she is just a jerk and should not even be in the " House"....of course this is only my opinion and you are entitiled to yours.... :lol:

   



ofaolain @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:32 am

I agree fully it is so classy to flip a country off then say what you actually think.......but I do agree, Trudeau had so much class he could have got away with anything....LOL

   



Ralph @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:35 am

UglyYank UglyYank:
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
No doubt you had to Google that, Troll boy. If you don;t care about Canadian politics, what the hell are you doing in this thread? Piss off.


I knew who Chretien was already, Ms Blair. This is US/Kanada Relation NOT Kanadian Politics.

I don't care about Kanadian politics. What you people do up there is your own business. But I am interested as far as how a small country relates to the US and vice-versa. Beyond that, your like any other leftist-wing socialist country.


Much better off than our poor American brothers down south.
I recall you guys coming here by the busload just for flue shots.

   



ofaolain @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:45 am

You have to be from Montreal, Quebec USA

What is your national anthem

   



Deancoo @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:03 am

In fairness, you have to admit that Parrish's comments were not very constructive. Nobodies like us can sound off without any real consequence, but at this point the bed is made. Bush is the going to be around for another 4, plus don't forget about Jeb. I believe it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better down there.

If we're going to have any kind of influence over this idiot, we'd better use some tact (well at least the federal politicians should use tact). And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying bow down to their pressure, but try to nudge them in a more civil direction without winding up on that crazy "axis of evil".

BTW, Godz you need to take a laxative. I think you'll feel better afterwards.

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Scape @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:04 am

Deancoo Deancoo:
In fairness, you have to admit that Parrish's comments were not very constructive. Nobodies like us can sound off without any real consequence, but at this point the bed is made. Bush is the going to be around for another 4, plus don't forget about Jeb. I believe it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better down there.

If we're going to have any kind of influence over this idiot, we'd better use some tact (well at least the federal politicians should use tact). And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying bow down to their pressure, but try to nudge them in a more civil direction without winding up on that crazy "axis of evil".

BTW, Godz you need to take a laxative. I think you'll feel better afterwards.


BUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA, who cares what some 2 bit liberal MP says? She should have worn red today to show she is not only liberal, but the expendable crew member as well. As for talking sense to the US did you hear that the border is STILL NOT OPEN FOR BEEF? The US is keeping 3.6 BILLION of illegally collected revenue from Tariffs that we fought and won but the US overturned from softwood lumber? The industries in Canada that we have sacrificed so much to defend and create a living wage, such as the wheat board, are being gutted and sold to the highest, non-Canadian, bidder. They have undercut and sold off wholesale our industry and manufacturing base and guess what? The border is being erased!

$1:
Discussions so far indicate that Canada, under the new agreement, would immediately sign on to the U.S. strategic missile defense initiative. Canada would also make its vast lumber resources available to the U.S. and Mexican markets and provide more open access to the northern neighbor's oil, natural gas and hydro-electric power resources.


So what does this mean? Deregulation of transportation, communications and the banks. Goodbye to the dollar and you can kiss that hard earned surplus goodbye. We will be signing on to the US debt, our media is ripe for takeover and our rail, air and long haul freight will be sold and gutted. Guess what else? You don't get to vote on it, we have already signed on. FTAA is just finishing what FTA and NAFTA had started. You will see no debate in the House of Commons because the Liberals and Conservatives are already on board with it and the separatists don't care for they want the country to go to hell so they can have their own country. You get all the taxes and none of the benefit, the health system will be 'privatized' and we will be seeing our troops in Iraq as our foreign policy will be driven by the economic policy that we have signed off control over without so much as a whimper.

   



Ruddeger @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:56 am

There is no way anyone can intelligently defend Parrish's ignorant statements over the past two years. As an MP, you are elected to represent a region in Canada, not the whole nation itself. And I understand that a lot of people share the same views, as many spout the same rhetoric I have read in the forums, but for her to blatantly criticize our closest ally and largest trading partner not only widens the gap in Canadian U.S. relations, but she made Canadians as a whole look petty and bitter. In other words, she did not represent how good Canadians can be and are.

And for people to say that she has a spine for saying what all Canadians are thinking, you're wrong. Her views were her own and were nothing more then petty name calling and personal attacks. How is that constructive? How did her remarks get us closer to achieving anything? They didn't. Even though Parrish and many others are angered with the US these days, that still does not make it right to scorch the earth and make future progress in rebuilding relations a more difficult task.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:12 am

Parrish's constituents knew exactly where she stood before the last election. They knew she was outspoken. They knew there was no love lost between her and Martin. They knew she opposed the further Americanisation of Canada. They knew that she responded to the hatred coming from south of the border in kind. You know what? She is one of the few Liberals that increased her share of the vote.

She told the Toronto Star that she was surprised that Martin finally showed some spine and fired her, but that she was leaving the party anyway. In Paul Martin's and Stephen Harper's world it is wrong to represent your constituents or the Canadian people. All that matters in their tiny little world is trade with the US to the exclusion of all all others. If they have to kneel in front of George Bush to achieve that goal, then it is fine with them because they are wholly owned by US corporations.

Martin and Harper and their followers are whores. Parrish stood up to them and got fired for her trouble. We should cheer for her. She, at least, doesn't kneel down for money.

   



Ruddeger @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:31 am

Showed some spine? How is making brutal and extremely public attacks on the US anything but ignorant? There are better ways to show some spine and far more constructive ways as well. What she did was nothing more then unfiltered anger that was not thought out and should not receive any praise. This woman was bad for Canada, and will be until she is no longer a public figure.

She did not kneel down for money? You, of all people, should know that politics always comes down to money. She was elected to better her region with health, social programs, and anything else that requires money. The US, as bad as they may be when it comes to playing by the rules, still owes and makes us a lot of money, be it with our energy, lumber and cattle industies. All which are affected by negative Canadian and US relations. So do you think her recent outbursts better these situations? The US could blow us off, tell us to go screw ourselves and we would be in a whole shitload of financial trouble. So when an braindead moron starts representing the nation with her pigheaded views on another nation's leader, all she is doing is making it harder for us to bring more money into our nation that fund all our programs that we pride ourselves on. This woman has no place in politics.

Rev, how do you know that Parrish's constituents knew exactly where she stood before the election? Do you think they're proud about her actions? If you could, jot down the source of this information so we can take a look at it.

   



Ruddeger @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:05 am

Image

The face of a bitch.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:25 am

Parrish made her "American bastards" statement well before the last election. If you guys want to keep whinging about it you should check the context in which it was made. If you don't care about that, then obviously you wish to understand the truth.

She has been very outspoken about her feelings about BMD and George Bush and Iraq for far longer than Martin has been Prime Minister and that caused Martin to try to do the same thing to her as he did Copps during the riding association run-offs. If her constituents didn't where she stood it's because they didn't want to.

The US has to deal with us, Ruddeger. They need our stuff. The thing is that we have every right to be pissed off about the way they treat us. Look at wheat and BSE and lumber and hemp and Iraq and BMD and the fact that we got stuck with a political hack for an ambassador instead of professional diplomat. They play hardball. Martin shows up ready to play slo-pitch. Harper suggests that we should field a t-ball team against them. Somebody sugggests that we should play by the same rules that they do and you guys run around screaming that the sky is falling.

As for whether she has a right to call Georgie Bush a moron and an idiot and a warmonger and a danger to the security of the world and even a bastard...he is all of those things. He's also a drunk and a cokehead and a religious fanatic and, very likely, suffers from mental illness. I'm not going to shut up about those things and neither should Parrish.

You should also keep in mind that it is no secret that people in the White House called Chretien "dino" and worse, Bush snubbed us every chance he got, before we refused to go to Iraq including right after 9-11 when we gave the USA massive amounts of help.

You guys might think that cowardice is worth something when dealing with the USA, but all it's gotten us so far is stomped on.

   



Ruddeger @ Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:55 am

Who the hell says we're whining about it? We're producing valid arguments and you find its necessary to make underhanded comments. Don't. If you want a worthwhile debate, then cut that shit out of your blurbs.

Now as far as Parrish advocating for a level playing field, thats fine, but that is not the issue. The issue here were her defamatory remarks aimed not just at a leader of a nation, but the whole nation itself. If GWB wants to call Chretien "Dino", thats fine. Chretien wasn't the best representative of Canada either, nor was he too keen on Bush. But at least Bush didn't summarize all Canadians as "Dino", or bastards for that matter. Thats the point. Parrish categorized the whole of the United States, which from what I read in other posts, you hate people being put in groups as a whole. So why should Parrish get let of your hook? Because you agree with her? I hope its not that simple.

   



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