Canada Kicks Ass
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WarHawk @ Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:45 pm

America is NOT a real Democracy.

When there are only two major parties to choose from, that is not a REAL Democracy. Where youÂ’re forced to choose from the lesser of the two evils, that is not a real democracy. The two parties are essentially the same party; the business party if you will, the Republican's and Democrats are just different factions, on different sides of the same coin.

It's hypocritical of America, to go around invading countries in the so-called "War on Terror", where they are doing the SAME thing back to what the alleged Arabs did on 9/11. The "Shock and Awe" we saw during the initial phase of the invasion, was in fact terrorism in it's self. Hell, "Shock and Awe" is practically the definition of Terrorism!

America is not a Democracy, it's an Empire.

The only way I see, that America could become a real democracy is if all the smaller, less known parties (exp the Green Party) formed a coalition (much like what happened in Canada), and took the fight to the business party, and reformed the government so that no one or two parties could have such a monopoly over the people.

   



Rosco @ Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:03 pm

The U.S. was intended to be a representive Republic with plenty of safeguards to prevent a tyranny of the majority over being a conventional democracy.

There's nothing wrong with a two party system, this is actually more competitive players than many countries have in effect, Japan for instance has been governed by its powerful Liberal Democratic Party for nearly every year since postwar elections took place. Both major parties span a huge amount of ideological ground and third parties tend to merely spilt votes more than accomplish anything worthwhile.

   



WarHawk @ Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:45 pm

Rosco Rosco:
The U.S. was intended to be a representive Republic with plenty of safeguards to prevent a tyranny of the majority over being a conventional democracy.

There's nothing wrong with a two party system, this is actually more competitive players than many countries have in effect, Japan for instance has been governed by its powerful Liberal Democratic Party for nearly every year since postwar elections took place. Both major parties span a huge amount of ideological ground and third parties tend to merely spilt votes more than accomplish anything worthwhile.

I disagree completly. There are more political disciplines than just Conservatives and Liberals. :roll:

And those "Safe guards" don't apear to be working either, since said party has had a monopoly throughout the entire US history.

   



Rosco @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:47 am

Who's had a monoply? Certainly not the GOP nor the DNC. It seems that looking back on this country's history the Conservative Party ruled the federal roost for most of our history until the late 60's and it's pretty much been all Liberal since then, no other other parties have really been competitive on the federal level both in the past and in the present unless either of the big boys fucks up, in effect we have a two party system.

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:02 am

There are plenty of parties, it's just Democrats and Republicans are the ones people in the US seem to agree most with and be a part of. How many parties do you really need before it starts to get confusing? Think if the US had 100 parties, then no one could really agree with anything and nothing would ever get done. The US people just have different points of view than other countries, and if the majority of people either agree with Republicans or Democrats, and the minority are for the liberals and independents, then I don't see how that's not democracy. Doesn't democracy usually end up being majority rule? How many parties can you really have, when there is either for, or against on certain issues? Just because there are two main parties doesn't mean a country isn't a democracy.

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:31 pm

The two parties in the US do rule with a Iron grip. Glad I don't have to live in fear of being killed everyday like the Americans do. I feel like if I lived in the US, it would be like living in a middle eastern country, because the majority of Americans are brainwashed and ruled with an Iron grip. Glad I live in the most free country on the planet, Canada.

   



mike2277 @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:52 pm

Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa:
Glad I don't have to live in fear of being killed everyday like the Americans do.


:roll:
Americans live in fear of being killed? That's news to me. On what do you base this statement?

   



Robair @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:28 pm

mike2277 mike2277:
Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa:
Glad I don't have to live in fear of being killed everyday like the Americans do.


:roll:
Americans live in fear of being killed? That's news to me. On what do you base this statement?


don't worry about it mike, check out some of Johnnys other posts, he's an idiot. Or at least he plays one really well in the forums.

   



WarHawk @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:07 pm

Rosco Rosco:
Who's had a monoply? Certainly not the GOP nor the DNC. It seems that looking back on this country's history the Conservative Party ruled the federal roost for most of our history until the late 60's and it's pretty much been all Liberal since then, no other other parties have really been competitive on the federal level both in the past and in the present unless either of the big boys fucks up, in effect we have a two party system.

Are you talking about Canada or the US? Im a bit confused... :?

   



WarHawk @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:11 pm

Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa:
There are plenty of parties, it's just Democrats and Republicans are the ones people in the US seem to agree most with and be a part of. How many parties do you really need before it starts to get confusing? Think if the US had 100 parties, then no one could really agree with anything and nothing would ever get done. The US people just have different points of view than other countries, and if the majority of people either agree with Republicans or Democrats, and the minority are for the liberals and independents, then I don't see how that's not democracy. Doesn't democracy usually end up being majority rule? How many parties can you really have, when there is either for, or against on certain issues? Just because there are two main parties doesn't mean a country isn't a democracy.

There is a flaw in your logic. Since the average American mentality is that a vote for the green party or an independent is a wasted vote, which is true I suppose since many of America's elections have in fact been rigged before, ahem, JFK's being one of them.

   



Rosco @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:31 pm

WarHawk WarHawk:
Are you talking about Canada or the US? Im a bit confused... :?


I was talking about both.

   



WarHawk @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:40 pm

Rosco Rosco:
WarHawk WarHawk:
Are you talking about Canada or the US? Im a bit confused... :?


I was talking about both.

Try being more coherent in your posts then. :P

   



polemarch1 @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:34 pm

Wonder where IRON MIKE went :?:

   



Laconfir @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:29 pm

Robair Robair:
mike2277 mike2277:
Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa:
Glad I don't have to live in fear of being killed everyday like the Americans do.


:roll:
Americans live in fear of being killed? That's news to me. On what do you base this statement?


don't worry about it mike, check out some of Johnnys other posts, he's an idiot. Or at least he plays one really well in the forums.


Have any links to his posts? I need to read something funny.... I'm in a bad mood...

   



feeko @ Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:50 pm

GEE, i THOUGHT AMERICA was a republic?.....hmm...

as for the u.s.,BEING TERRORIST'S...put down that bc bud .dude....

the difference.is we fight their armies[ if you could call it that]....we try to kill only the bad dues or those who deserve it....granted innocents get killed [ as they have in every war].....we do try to limit it....


WE [ as a nation]....can and will do what we please....We look out of for # 1 first and foremost.....if that bothers you...Tough....life aint fair....and that wont change anytime soon ..go back to smokin da bud mon......

   



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