ON THE IMPLICATION OF THE KATRINA DISASTER FOR CANADA
Scape @ Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:18 pm
Full article by Connie Fogal on Katrina and Canada September 7, 2005
ON THE IMPLICATION OF THE KATRINA DISASTER FOR CANADA
It is time to face the reality that something is very rotten in the U.S.A.. That something is the administrative forces of power and control that have destroyed American democracy in the USA stripping the people of their democratic and constitutional rights and protections. The Katrina disaster is proof that all the antiterrorism hype since 9/11 has been a smokescreen to deliver regime change in the USA from democracy to a police state.
Under the guise of security, in the U.S.A and in Canada, laws have been created that destabilize the social order. Before their full application, one can ignore and deny the profound effect. It is only upon the full application of a bad law that the impact is realized. So long as it is not being applied to us individually, we do not experience it and hence it is no problem.
In the USA large sums of money and incredible hype delivered "Homeland Security" but divested Americans of their freedom. This administrative and political vehicle failed disastrously to protect thousands and thousands of the most vulnerable Americans subject to Katrina. They have had no homeland security from Katrina. If the massive resources of the department of homeland security cannot, will not, be mobilized and utilized to protect and preserve Americans in their own homeland from a natural disaster, it begs the question of what is its point.
As the victims struggle for life and death in survival mode, Homeland Security and FEMA, implement the language of the law to treat the victims as criminals. The security system provokes disorder. Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
In Canada, Stephen Owen, the Parliamentarian responsible for ushering in our version of the Patriot Act said, on challenge by this writer, that it was not the intention to use this act to subvert liberty even if the language might conceivably appear to pave the road for that. He further astonishingly proclaimed that it is the citizens' duty to be monitoring these laws to ensure they are not abused or applied in unintended ways.
What clearer picture can there be than scenes of gun-toting police and military guarding buildings while people are drowning; of poor black victims kept at gunpoint in compounds and treated as criminals rather than delivered to safety and security; of shoot to kill orders of people in survival mode; of FEMA, The Federal Emergency Maintenance Administration preventing rescue operations and preventing the delivery of food and water, medical supplies and personnel; of the water supply deliberately having being turned off to force evacuation of people who have no means to leave, rather than the deployment of military and civilian vehicles- ships, trucks, busses to transport the people out before the storm struck; the separation of families- children from parents, husbands from wives in the initial marshaling of people into stadiums and ultimately now in transport to concentration camp-like compounds under heavy guard.
As the victims are being criminalized, the police state is being implemented in Louisiana. The full force of the draconian laws written into place by stupid men and women who were whipped by the power of evil is being unleashed.
The government and administration of Canada since Mulroney have strapped Canada to the US lead entering crippling financial agreements, and since 9/11 creating comparable police state powers in Canada. It is insane to have created laws that transfer dictatorial powers into the hands of a few cabinet ministers.
Katrina illustrates the horror of such inordinate power concentrated in the hands of FEMA which is the instrument that turned America against Americans. It is time to say "NO MORE". It is time to confront and end the evil and injustice.
In Canada it is time to be honest about the hypocrisy of the "anti terrorism" laws. Revoke them now! Return Habeas Corpus! Restore the full right of assembly and free speech and the right to dissent! Revoke the dictatorial powers of a few cabinet ministers! Cease further liberty stripping laws like internet and e -mail invasion, like mandatory fingerprinting and eyeprinting, like no-fly lists! There can be no reason for such laws except to impose a police state. Every Canadian should demand that his/her Member of Parliament end it now while we still can.
Canadians have the right to be that beacon of hope, support, and sanctuary to all those Americans struggling to restore democracy in their own land. But first we must clean up our own!
Canadian_Mind @ Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:49 pm
Scape Scape:
Full article by Connie Fogal on Katrina and Canada September 7, 2005
ON THE IMPLICATION OF THE KATRINA DISASTER FOR CANADA
It is time to face the reality that something is very rotten in the U.S.A.. That something is the administrative forces of power and control that have destroyed American democracy in the USA stripping the people of their democratic and constitutional rights and protections. The Katrina disaster is proof that all the antiterrorism hype since 9/11 has been a smokescreen to deliver regime change in the USA from democracy to a police state.
Under the guise of security, in the U.S.A and in Canada, laws have been created that destabilize the social order. Before their full application, one can ignore and deny the profound effect. It is only upon the full application of a bad law that the impact is realized. So long as it is not being applied to us individually, we do not experience it and hence it is no problem.
In the USA large sums of money and incredible hype delivered "Homeland Security" but divested Americans of their freedom. This administrative and political vehicle failed disastrously to protect thousands and thousands of the most vulnerable Americans subject to Katrina. They have had no homeland security from Katrina. If the massive resources of the department of homeland security cannot, will not, be mobilized and utilized to protect and preserve Americans in their own homeland from a natural disaster, it begs the question of what is its point.
As the victims struggle for life and death in survival mode, Homeland Security and FEMA, implement the language of the law to treat the victims as criminals. The security system provokes disorder. Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
In Canada, Stephen Owen, the Parliamentarian responsible for ushering in our version of the Patriot Act said, on challenge by this writer, that it was not the intention to use this act to subvert liberty even if the language might conceivably appear to pave the road for that. He further astonishingly proclaimed that it is the citizens' duty to be monitoring these laws to ensure they are not abused or applied in unintended ways.
What clearer picture can there be than scenes of gun-toting police and military guarding buildings while people are drowning; of poor black victims kept at gunpoint in compounds and treated as criminals rather than delivered to safety and security; of shoot to kill orders of people in survival mode; of FEMA, The Federal Emergency Maintenance Administration preventing rescue operations and preventing the delivery of food and water, medical supplies and personnel; of the water supply deliberately having being turned off to force evacuation of people who have no means to leave, rather than the deployment of military and civilian vehicles- ships, trucks, busses to transport the people out before the storm struck; the separation of families- children from parents, husbands from wives in the initial marshaling of people into stadiums and ultimately now in transport to concentration camp-like compounds under heavy guard.
As the victims are being criminalized, the police state is being implemented in Louisiana. The full force of the draconian laws written into place by stupid men and women who were whipped by the power of evil is being unleashed.
The government and administration of Canada since Mulroney have strapped Canada to the US lead entering crippling financial agreements, and since 9/11 creating comparable police state powers in Canada. It is insane to have created laws that transfer dictatorial powers into the hands of a few cabinet ministers.
Katrina illustrates the horror of such inordinate power concentrated in the hands of FEMA which is the instrument that turned America against Americans. It is time to say "NO MORE". It is time to confront and end the evil and injustice.
In Canada it is time to be honest about the hypocrisy of the "anti terrorism" laws. Revoke them now! Return Habeas Corpus! Restore the full right of assembly and free speech and the right to dissent! Revoke the dictatorial powers of a few cabinet ministers! Cease further liberty stripping laws like internet and e -mail invasion, like mandatory fingerprinting and eyeprinting, like no-fly lists! There can be no reason for such laws except to impose a police state. Every Canadian should demand that his/her Member of Parliament end it now while we still can.
Canadians have the right to be that beacon of hope, support, and sanctuary to all those Americans struggling to restore democracy in their own land. But first we must clean up our own!
ON THE IMPLICATION OF THE KATRINA DISASTER FOR CANADA
It is time to face the reality that something is very rotten in the U.S.A.. That something is the administrative forces of power and control that have destroyed American democracy in the USA stripping the people of their democratic and constitutional rights and protections. The Katrina disaster is proof that all the antiterrorism hype since 9/11 has been a smokescreen to deliver regime change in the USA from democracy to a police state.
Under the guise of security, in the U.S.A and in Canada, laws have been created that destabilize the social order. Before their full application, one can ignore and deny the profound effect. It is only upon the full application of a bad law that the impact is realized. So long as it is not being applied to us individually, we do not experience it and hence it is no problem.
In the USA large sums of money and incredible hype delivered "Homeland Security" but divested Americans of their freedom. This administrative and political vehicle failed disastrously to protect thousands and thousands of the most vulnerable Americans subject to Katrina. They have had no homeland security from Katrina. If the massive resources of the department of homeland security cannot, will not, be mobilized and utilized to protect and preserve Americans in their own homeland from a natural disaster, it begs the question of what is its point.
As the victims struggle for life and death in survival mode, Homeland Security and FEMA, implement the language of the law to treat the victims as criminals. The security system provokes disorder. Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
In Canada, Stephen Owen, the Parliamentarian responsible for ushering in our version of the Patriot Act said, on challenge by this writer, that it was not the intention to use this act to subvert liberty even if the language might conceivably appear to pave the road for that. He further astonishingly proclaimed that it is the citizens' duty to be monitoring these laws to ensure they are not abused or applied in unintended ways.
What clearer picture can there be than scenes of gun-toting police and military guarding buildings while people are drowning; of poor black victims kept at gunpoint in compounds and treated as criminals rather than delivered to safety and security; of shoot to kill orders of people in survival mode; of FEMA, The Federal Emergency Maintenance Administration preventing rescue operations and preventing the delivery of food and water, medical supplies and personnel; of the water supply deliberately having being turned off to force evacuation of people who have no means to leave, rather than the deployment of military and civilian vehicles- ships, trucks, busses to transport the people out before the storm struck; the separation of families- children from parents, husbands from wives in the initial marshaling of people into stadiums and ultimately now in transport to concentration camp-like compounds under heavy guard.
As the victims are being criminalized, the police state is being implemented in Louisiana. The full force of the draconian laws written into place by stupid men and women who were whipped by the power of evil is being unleashed.
The government and administration of Canada since Mulroney have strapped Canada to the US lead entering crippling financial agreements, and since 9/11 creating comparable police state powers in Canada. It is insane to have created laws that transfer dictatorial powers into the hands of a few cabinet ministers.
Katrina illustrates the horror of such inordinate power concentrated in the hands of FEMA which is the instrument that turned America against Americans. It is time to say "NO MORE". It is time to confront and end the evil and injustice.
In Canada it is time to be honest about the hypocrisy of the "anti terrorism" laws. Revoke them now! Return Habeas Corpus! Restore the full right of assembly and free speech and the right to dissent! Revoke the dictatorial powers of a few cabinet ministers! Cease further liberty stripping laws like internet and e -mail invasion, like mandatory fingerprinting and eyeprinting, like no-fly lists! There can be no reason for such laws except to impose a police state. Every Canadian should demand that his/her Member of Parliament end it now while we still can.
Canadians have the right to be that beacon of hope, support, and sanctuary to all those Americans struggling to restore democracy in their own land. But first we must clean up our own!
why don't we, at CKA, just organise a march? none of our MP's here in the north island(s) have listened to what we wanted for the last ten years, I don't know if its like that elsewhere. would be alot easer to organise as we already have a super popular website.
canucker @ Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:26 pm
Did you really have to quote the whole article? lol 
canucker @ Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:30 pm
$1:
Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
But they are trying to rescue those who have survived, and I haven't heard about "shoot to kill" orders....
GhostDog3 @ Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:38 pm
Canucker i was thinking the same just now,why quoting the article.And yes i did herd something about shoot to kill was seased for now.
GhostDog3 @ Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:38 pm
O ya Scape mice article
Canadian_Mind @ Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:04 pm
shoot to kill is still enacted in the ghetto's whenever a gang of more than three people rapidly approach rescuers or military personel.
Scape @ Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:27 pm
canucker canucker:
$1:
Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
But they are trying to rescue those who have survived, and I haven't heard about "shoot to kill" orders....
Troops told 'shoot to kill' in New Orleans
canucker @ Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:29 pm
Scape Scape:
canucker canucker:
$1:
Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
But they are trying to rescue those who have survived, and I haven't heard about "shoot to kill" orders....
[url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1451906.htm]
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Troops told 'shoot to kill' in New Orleans[/url]
Thank you Scape.
Canadian_Mind @ Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:31 pm
canucker canucker:
Scape Scape:
canucker canucker:
$1:
Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
But they are trying to rescue those who have survived, and I haven't heard about "shoot to kill" orders....
[url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1451906.htm]
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Troops told 'shoot to kill' in New Orleans[/url]
Thank you Scape.
america has gone fucking insane eh? "shoot to kill" in a disaster zone? wher else in the world would you find a shoot to kill order in times of recent disaster/ suffering?
Constantinople @ Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:56 pm
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
canucker canucker:
Scape Scape:
canucker canucker:
$1:
Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
But they are trying to rescue those who have survived, and I haven't heard about "shoot to kill" orders....
[url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1451906.htm]
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Troops told 'shoot to kill' in New Orleans[/url]
Thank you Scape.
america has gone fucking insane eh? "shoot to kill" in a disaster zone? wher else in the world would you find a shoot to kill order in times of recent disaster/ suffering?
It's called martial law. It's a good way to keep order in a disaster area. People were given plenty of warning- maybe they will actually listen to the evacuation warnings this time. Those who can't evacuate will obviously be no threat- those who can evacuate but once again chose not to due to reasons undisclosed, will be dealt with.
Jusin @ Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:44 am
Constantinople Constantinople:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
canucker canucker:
Scape Scape:
canucker canucker:
$1:
Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
But they are trying to rescue those who have survived, and I haven't heard about "shoot to kill" orders....
[url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1451906.htm]
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Last Updated:Friday, September 2, 2005. 3:41pm (AEST)
Troops told 'shoot to kill' in New Orleans[/url]
Thank you Scape.
america has gone fucking insane eh? "shoot to kill" in a disaster zone? wher else in the world would you find a shoot to kill order in times of recent disaster/ suffering?
It's called martial law. It's a good way to keep order in a disaster area. People were given plenty of warning- maybe they will actually listen to the evacuation warnings this time. Those who can't evacuate will obviously be no threat- those who can evacuate but once again chose not to due to reasons undisclosed, will be dealt with.
You mean like some Darwinian slection of the fittest, if you get rid of all the poor, sick, colored, non-christians, moslems, gays, do you get a better society, no, you get NAZI Germany. Think about it. If they are citizens, then its not up to the government to strip them of their rights, those right are un-alienable as according the U.N.`s Charter of Man.
Jusin
American @ Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:56 pm
Jusin Jusin:
Constantinople Constantinople:
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
canucker canucker:
Scape Scape:
canucker canucker:
$1:
Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
But they are trying to rescue those who have survived, and I haven't heard about "shoot to kill" orders....
[url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1451906.htm]
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Last Updated:Friday, September 2, 2005. 3:41pm (AEST)
Troops told 'shoot to kill' in New Orleans[/url]
Thank you Scape.
america has gone fucking insane eh? "shoot to kill" in a disaster zone? wher else in the world would you find a shoot to kill order in times of recent disaster/ suffering?
It's called martial law. It's a good way to keep order in a disaster area. People were given plenty of warning- maybe they will actually listen to the evacuation warnings this time. Those who can't evacuate will obviously be no threat- those who can evacuate but once again chose not to due to reasons undisclosed, will be dealt with.
You mean like some Darwinian slection of the fittest, if you get rid of all the poor, sick, colored, non-christians, moslems, gays, do you get a better society, no, you get NAZI Germany. Think about it. If they are citizens, then its not up to the government to strip them of their rights, those right are un-alienable as according the U.N.`s Charter of Man.
Jusin
This is the most atrocious, misrepresentation of a situation I've ever seen. You people are ugly in your hearts to try and argue allegations like this into fact. This thread should be locked!
Jusin @ Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:00 pm
If people don't discuss whats in their hearts, then that festers. Speaking for myself, I have any hate for citizens of the USA, God knows, how many friends and relatives I have their.
Truth be told, there is a lot of nobility in the USA, there's also a lot depth, honour, respect and charity. I would never dispute that. But tell me, where were these people when thier brothers and sisters were drowning in New Orleans. When they aged, were abandoned to drown, and we can go on. But I don't want to, how much more misery can those poor people take. I also feel the same way about the people who devasted in Pakistan and Central America this past week, and I feel the very same way about the average Iraqi, whose is having his entire country sent back to the stone age.
Why don't we talk about making this better. So tell me my American buddies, what could us Canadians do to make you feel so safe in this world, that will drop your arms to a respectable level, and use that money to raise the literacy rate in your own country, or use the money for universal health care. You keep saying our Canadian system sucks, well show us how its done, and when you do, I'll be sure to say thank you.
JK
Jaime_Souviens @ Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:13 pm
Scape, you're two days late, Ann_Oyster_One already posted this article once here :
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=8793&highlight=
So, I'll copy here what I wrote there :
Boy, this is crap...
Fogal Fogal:
Impending Police State: The Implications of the Katrina Disaster for Canada
by Connie Fogal
GlobalResearch.ca
"It is time to face the reality that something is very rotten in the U.S.A.. That something is the administrative forces of power and control that have destroyed American democracy in the USA stripping the people of their democratic and constitutional rights and protections. The Katrina disaster is proof that all the antiterrorism hype since 9/11 has been a smokescreen to deliver regime change in the USA from democracy to a police state.
Under the guise of security, in the U.S.A and in Canada, laws have been created that destabilize the social order. Before their full application, one can ignore and deny the profound effect. It is only upon the full application of a bad law that the impact is realized. So long as it is not being applied to us individually, we do not experience it and hence it is no problem.
In the USA large sums of money and incredible hype delivered "Homeland Security" but divested Americans of their freedom. This administrative and political vehicle failed disastrously to protect thousands and thousands of the most vulnerable Americans subject to Katrina. They have had no homeland security from Katrina. If the massive resources of the department of homeland security cannot, will not, be mobilized and utilized to protect and preserve Americans in their own homeland from a natural disaster, it begs the question of what is its point.
by Connie Fogal
GlobalResearch.ca
"It is time to face the reality that something is very rotten in the U.S.A.. That something is the administrative forces of power and control that have destroyed American democracy in the USA stripping the people of their democratic and constitutional rights and protections. The Katrina disaster is proof that all the antiterrorism hype since 9/11 has been a smokescreen to deliver regime change in the USA from democracy to a police state.
Under the guise of security, in the U.S.A and in Canada, laws have been created that destabilize the social order. Before their full application, one can ignore and deny the profound effect. It is only upon the full application of a bad law that the impact is realized. So long as it is not being applied to us individually, we do not experience it and hence it is no problem.
In the USA large sums of money and incredible hype delivered "Homeland Security" but divested Americans of their freedom. This administrative and political vehicle failed disastrously to protect thousands and thousands of the most vulnerable Americans subject to Katrina. They have had no homeland security from Katrina. If the massive resources of the department of homeland security cannot, will not, be mobilized and utilized to protect and preserve Americans in their own homeland from a natural disaster, it begs the question of what is its point.
'Homeland Security' is designed to deal with terrotist threats, not natural disasters.
That's FEMA...
(It makes a difference on where the billions have been spent, mostly HS without an increase in FEMA, although it is subsumed in HS's operations.)
Fogal Fogal:
As the victims struggle for life and death in survival mode, Homeland Security and FEMA, implement the language of the law to treat the victims as criminals. The security system provokes disorder. Instead of rescue of those struggling to stay alive, orders to shoot to kill become the modus operandi. Martial law is imposed. There is something very, very wrong with this picture!
Because it's the opposite of what happened. The 'victims' were shooting at the rescurers.
Fogal Fogal:
In Canada, Stephen Owen, the Parliamentarian responsible for ushering in our version of the Patriot Act said, on challenge by this writer, that it was not the intention to use this act to subvert liberty even if the language might conceivably appear to pave the road for that. He further astonishingly proclaimed that it is the citizens' duty to be monitoring these laws to ensure they are not abused or applied in unintended ways.
True of any law, idiot.
Fogal Fogal:
What clearer picture can there be than scenes of gun-toting police and military guarding buildings while people are drowning; of poor black victims kept at gunpoint in compounds and treated as criminals rather than delivered to safety and security; of shoot to kill orders of people in survival mode; of FEMA, The Federal Emergency Maintenance Administration preventing rescue operations and preventing the delivery of food and water, medical supplies and personnel; of the water supply deliberately having being turned off to force evacuation of people who have no means to leave, rather than the deployment of military and civilian vehicles- ships, trucks, busses to transport the people out before the storm struck; the separation of families- children from parents, husbands from wives in the initial marshaling of people into stadiums and ultimately now in transport to concentration camp-like compounds under heavy guard.
There were forces in New Orleans that had to keep volunteer rescurers out---because the people on the inside were shooting at rescuers.
Fogal Fogal:
As the victims are being criminalized, the police state is being implemented in Louisiana. The full force of the draconian laws written into place by stupid men and women who were whipped by the power of evil is being unleashed.
What belched-up nonsense...
Fogal Fogal:
Katrina illustrates the horror of such inordinate power concentrated in the hands of FEMA which is the instrument that turned America against Americans. It is time to say "NO MORE". It is time to confront and end the evil and injustice.
This isn't even GOOD invective...
Fogal Fogal:
In Canada it is time to be honest about the hypocrisy of the "anti terrorism" laws. Revoke them now! Return Habeas Corpus! Restore the full right of assembly and free speech and the right to dissent! Revoke the dictatorial powers of a few cabinet ministers! Cease further liberty stripping laws like internet and e -mail invasion, like mandatory fingerprinting and eyeprinting, like no-fly lists! There can be no reason for such laws except to impose a police state. Every Canadian should demand that his/her Member of Parliament end it now while we still can.
Canada's a police state now???
Fogal Fogal:
Canadians have the right to be that beacon of hope, support, and sanctuary to all those Americans struggling to restore democracy in their own land. But first we must clean up our own!"
(Connie Fogal is Leader of the Canadian Action Party/ Parti Action Canadienne)
(Connie Fogal is Leader of the Canadian Action Party/ Parti Action Canadienne)
And a fool.
.