Possible North American Union
Toro @ Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:19 pm
There will be no NAU Central Bank. There will be no NAU. There will be no currency.
The euro is different because it is the monetary unit of a political entity that began 40 years before the integration took place.
Let me tell you this - the guys who have hundreds of billions on the line would be talking about this. They are not. It ain't happening.
OPP @ Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:26 pm
Toro Toro:
There will be no NAU Central Bank. There will be no NAU. There will be no currency.
The euro is different because it is the monetary unit of a political entity that began 40 years before the integration took place.
Let me tell you this - the guys who have hundreds of billions on the line would be talking about this. They are not. It ain't happening.
The monetary union didn't begin until 1990 when the first stage was launched. Before that it was no different than the relationship of North America.
You seem werry confident about this.. I supose you didn't watch the video I posted?
Toro @ Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:38 pm
I don't have to watch the video.
I go to work every day.
OPP OPP:
Toro Toro:
There will be no new currency.
There will ne no merging of monetary systems.
The US government will never give up the dollar. Ever.
I work in capital markets for one of the largest financial institutions in the world. We move billions of dollars each day. We do stocks, bonds, currencies, real estate, private equity, swaps, options, swaptions, CDOs, CDSs, MBOs, etc., etc., etc. We are plugged into the global capital markets and the only place where I ever - ever - here about this is on the Internet from conspiracists. If there was even a chance of this, we'd be hearing it from the likes of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, not some crank nobody has ever heard of with a web site.
The only debate there would be about merging currencies is if Canada wanted to have a debate about ditching the loonie for the greenback because the United States government would never, under any circumstance, give up control of monetary policy.
It's inevitable! If you have a NAU Central Bank the merging of currencies is bound to happen. Take the EU for example.
No it's not, the British kept the pound sterling and told the EU to screw off, America will never relinquish the American dollar. You are falling on your conspiracy haunches again.
Toro Toro:
The only debate there would be about merging currencies is if Canada wanted to have a debate about ditching the loonie for the greenback because the United States government would never, under any circumstance, give up control of monetary policy.
And that there is the problem. What would happen if their ability to print money at the drop of a political wind were to be threatened? The powers that be may be able to keep the borders open, they may support the government undercutting the dollar, that is until they can't. The Republicans will have to at least visit their ideological past, when that happens we'll just have to see which road populism takes. I don't think Wall street is completely unassailable politically, not just yet.
OPP @ Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:53 am
Toro Toro:
I don't have to watch the video.
I go to work every day.
You are just in a leag of your own... Do you watch CNN?
Well, the clip is from CNN. Next time you join a debate, make sure you know what the hell you're talking about.. becaus you sure don't now.
OPP @ Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:03 am
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
OPP OPP:
Toro Toro:
There will be no new currency.
There will ne no merging of monetary systems.
The US government will never give up the dollar. Ever.
I work in capital markets for one of the largest financial institutions in the world. We move billions of dollars each day. We do stocks, bonds, currencies, real estate, private equity, swaps, options, swaptions, CDOs, CDSs, MBOs, etc., etc., etc. We are plugged into the global capital markets and the only place where I ever - ever - here about this is on the Internet from conspiracists. If there was even a chance of this, we'd be hearing it from the likes of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, not some crank nobody has ever heard of with a web site.
The only debate there would be about merging currencies is if Canada wanted to have a debate about ditching the loonie for the greenback because the United States government would never, under any circumstance, give up control of monetary policy.
It's inevitable! If you have a NAU Central Bank the merging of currencies is bound to happen. Take the EU for example.
No it's not, the British kept the pound sterling and told the EU to screw off, America will never relinquish the American dollar. You are falling on your conspiracy haunches again.
As did Sweden. Now the nations outside of the Monetary Union are kept out of important decision making which directly or indirectly effekt us. Now our economies are interlinked and we are all under one central bank.
OPP @ Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:06 am
Toro Toro:
There will be no NAU Central Bank. There will be no NAU. There will be no currency.
The euro is different because it is the monetary unit of a political entity that began 40 years before the integration took place.
Let me tell you this - the guys who have hundreds of billions on the line would be talking about this. They are not. It ain't happening.
I'll be sure to save this comment. When the NAU is a fact.. and you are all integrated and all institutions are centralized... I'll post it on CKA as; THESE ARE THE ONES TO BLAME!
The ones turning their back to this... Sitting in their little safe corner with their fingers in their ears going; NONONONONONONONON!
OPP @ Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:24 am
When this is to obvious to deny any longer and the naive no-thinkers are coming out of their little corners, they'll say; "Now, this ain't so bad. Look at the bright side. I allways thought of my self as a North American anyhow."
"It's like I punched you in the nose, I brake it and blood's spewing, and you go; I wonder if you just hit me?" - Alex Jones on the denial of the NAU.
RUEZ @ Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:26 am
OPP OPP:
When this is to obvious to deny any longer and the naive no-thinkers are coming out of their little corners, they'll say; "Now, this ain't so bad. Look at the bright side. I allways thought of my self as a North American anyhow."
"It's like I punched you in the nose, I brake it and blood's spewing, and you go; I wonder if you just hit me?" - Alex Jones on the denial of the NAU.
Aint gonna happen.
Toro @ Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:46 am
lol
Hmmm, Alan Greenspan or Alex Jones?
I wonder in whom I should place my faith? A raving conspiracist or a revered central banker?
Yes, let's listen not to the experts, but to the mystics!
That's why the only people who take conspiracists seriously are ... other conspiracists!
OPP @ Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:59 am
Toro Toro:
lol
Hmmm, Alan Greenspan or Alex Jones?
I wonder in whom I should place my faith? A raving conspiracist or a revered central banker?
Yes, let's listen not to the experts, but to the mystics!
That's why the only people who take conspiracists seriously are ... other conspiracists!
So you listen to a central banker who has a lot to gain from this, instead of common sense... Good for you!
OPP OPP:
Toro Toro:
lol
Hmmm, Alan Greenspan or Alex Jones?
I wonder in whom I should place my faith? A raving conspiracist or a revered central banker?
Yes, let's listen not to the experts, but to the mystics!
That's why the only people who take conspiracists seriously are ... other conspiracists!
So you listen to a central banker who has a lot to gain from this, instead of common sense... Good for you!

Mr. Greenspan is retired. And he wouldn't have much to gain from it either. He was the 2nd most powerful person in the world and because of the autonomy of the central bank he couldn't of been president. And to think, he only made $161239 in his final year.
He is one of the few people in the world in which other governments will follow his advice. Heck, he is very much responsible for the US and Chinese prosperity over the past 20 years.
Toro @ Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:06 am
OPP OPP:
So you listen to a central banker who has a lot to gain from this, instead of common sense... Good for you!

lol
He
doesn't have anything to gain from this. He
doesn't say anything!
Nobody who has a lot to gain isn't saying
anything about this. Why?
Because its not happening!
When you're sick, do you listen to a doctor or a conspiracist? When you're car is broken, do you listen to a mechanic or a conspiracist? You certainly are willing to forego the opinions of experts for the conspiracists, no matter how far fetched.
If you believe that the greenback is going to be replaced by another currency, you are not a serious person and your opinions don't matter, just like your opinions don't matter if you think the world is flat and gravity causes things to fall up.
OPP @ Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:18 am
Toro Toro:
OPP OPP:
So you listen to a central banker who has a lot to gain from this, instead of common sense... Good for you!

lol
He
doesn't have anything to gain from this. He
doesn't say anything!
Nobody who has a lot to gain isn't saying
anything about this. Why?
Because its not happening!When you're sick, do you listen to a doctor or a conspiracist? When you're car is broken, do you listen to a mechanic or a conspiracist? You certainly are willing to forego the opinions of experts for the conspiracists, no matter how far fetched.
If you believe that the greenback is going to be replaced by another currency, you are not a serious person and your opinions don't matter, just like your opinions don't matter if you think the world is flat and gravity causes things to fall up.
I guess time will tell then... Time will tell...
..and don't bitch to me when this is a reality. I warned you. You didn't listen. That's all I can do.