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Smoking and Anti-drug commercials in the US

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Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:04 pm

Has anyone seen these commercials? I found it extremely funny that these groups focus on people who smoke and tell lies about marijuana. What about the PCBs that get in the food from the toxic sludge that some farmers use to grow food? What about the pollution the factories pump in the air, or the out of control comsuming of industrialized nations? These commercials are such a waste of money on such a small subject. People don't want to breath in cigarette smoke, but they don't have any commercials against the pollution in the air, or the CO2 emitted from cars.

I know all this is known, but I think I would rather have people fighting against those types of things and opening peoples minds to things which destroy the planet instead of making people pick on smokers. Also, I am not a smoker.

Another thing which is just ridiculous is the money going into the anti-marijuana commercials. I would like proof that if someone is high a baby will drown in a pool, or girls will get raped. Smoking is bad for people, but so is the air we breath nowadays, and so is the hole in the ozone. The US tells it's people that smoking marijuana is bad, but storing nuclear waste in mountains, dumping toxic sludge in the ocean, testing many nuclear bombs on their own land, selling guns to anyone without a record, and so on are things that can't be helped and that aren't as bad as smoking marijuana? Someone needs to show some politicians and Americans the constitution.

   



sk1d @ Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:29 pm

all those ads are sponsored by the government in some way. They are trying to make it look like they care about you so you stop smoking. They try to make marijuana look bad, because they know there is no way to legalize it and tax it to make any money. If The Americans legalized pot, or even if we did, there's already such a sophisticated network of dealing drugs, that the government could never completely take it over and profit from it.

It's all about their war on drugs they've been fighting for the past decade.

Has the U.S. ever had a usccessful war of anykind since WWII?

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:11 pm

Is politics. They have won wars in central America, but overall politics get in the way and usually it's just a big bloodbath with the US forces not recieving nerely as many as the enemy. I would think that it cost alot of money to keep the drug war going, and to have police always looking for drug users and dealers. I think that pot could be taxed easily, just by selling it in wieghts. They found ways to tax tons of other things. I think the main problems is morals and middle America conservatism. Everyone wants to keep the status quo, and they have been given so much propaganda about Marijuana that they fear legalizing it will basically bring the entire country down.

I know that pot comes in different potency, but at the same time I really don't think that is much of an issue cause I used to smoke it alot and I think that getting high is getting high. I mean you can only get so high. But oh well, while those people bitch about pot their children who grew up hearing pot is bad, alcohol good, can go off to college, get drunk, overdose, and die.

   



Almighty1 @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:15 am

Yeah these comercials are hilarious at best! Better than those are the "Canadian version". The "stealing satellite signal" commercials where the kid gets caught stealing and blames his father for influencing him through stealing signals at home. What a load of shit. Best Canadian comedy I've seen in a while. Damn commies.....

Touch my satellite and I'll break ur arm buddy....

   



Rev_Blair @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:44 am

The phony war against drugs is a joke. Do some reading about what's been happening in Columbia for...well forever. It has more to do with oil pipelines and farm subsidies than the coca plant. Look into the saga of Manny Noriega in Panama...the US invasion there and Noriega's subsequent arrest (illegal under international law BTW)was basically a turf war between drug dealers.

Marijuana is being kept illegal in the US as much because the oil and cotton industries find hemp threatening as much as any other reason. The whole war on drugs is a lie. As usual it's based on greed.

   



sodomy_eh @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:51 am

sorry Johnnybgoodaaaaa, but your wrong. cars don't give off CO2. thats carbon dioxide. thats what humans give off. if you breate CO2, you get lightheaded. cars emit CO, carbon monoxide. a gas that is tasteless, scentless, and deadly. it makes you feel tired. you fall asleep and if you don't get to a hospital soon, you never wake up.

   



Rev_Blair @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:04 pm

There are science classes available at your local high school, sodomy. I suggest you take some.

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:50 pm

Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
The phony war against drugs is a joke. Do some reading about what's been happening in Columbia for...well forever. It has more to do with oil pipelines and farm subsidies than the coca plant. Look into the saga of Manny Noriega in Panama...the US invasion there and Noriega's subsequent arrest (illegal under international law BTW)was basically a turf war between drug dealers.

Marijuana is being kept illegal in the US as much because the oil and cotton industries find hemp threatening as much as any other reason. The whole war on drugs is a lie. As usual it's based on greed.


Is a joke. I like how the PR industry in the US has tried to make Columbia look like a victum of the drug lords, when in reality the drug lords basically run that country. When the drug lords get caught there, they go to a prison which is much like a resort, even with it's own soccer field.

I suggest for Sodomy to look up Co2 emissions. Can anyone take someone with the name Sodomy seriously though?

   



Rev_Blair @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:41 pm

From what I've heard people who get locked in Columbian jails take sodomy very seriously. :lol:

That excludes, of course, the guys who sell coke for the right-wing militias (pro-government, pro-US). They are seldom charged. Those who sell coke to fund the left-wing militias (anti-government, anti-US) are lucky to be charged, tried and convicted. They are more often shot on sight.

Don't confuse the right and left wing descriptions with anything approaching what we might see as ideological reality. The difference between the two factions is their willingness to give the country's resources over to the US as payment in a bizarre protection racket. That's a tradition that goes back to before Colombia existed or the US was a country, but it has grown far worse for the average person there since Bush stepped up the fake war on drugs.

   



sk1d @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:50 pm

how does that song go?

don't put it in your mouth, don't put it in your mouth.......


remember that old school don't do drugs ad, didn't it have puppets?

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:56 pm

Let's just keep our fingers crossed that Kerry wins to at least get Bush out of the house. Politicians are politicians, and I doubt having Kerry come in will suddenly make everything so great, cause the US is split half and half basically, so there will still be republicans who try to ruin anything democrates do.

   



Rev_Blair @ Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:34 am

It isn't just that Republicans will try to ruin whatever Democrats do, Johnny. How do you go to the American people and say, "We've been lying to you about the war on drugs since Nixon was in the White House. Our country has a drug problem for complicated socio-economic reasons that we've never even tried to understand, let alone address. Several drug-producing countries are producing drugs because it is the only cash-crop they can grow that is still profitable after years of US and EU subsidies. The incursions the US has made into those countries have been more about gaining control of their resources and supporting US corporations than stemming the flow of drugs."

After twenty years of this, "Just say no," bullshit, a speech like that would cause riots in the street. A lot of law enforcement in the states depends on drug seizures for money. Massive numbers of jobs are tied up in the war on drugs. Foreign policy is dependent on the anti-drug rhetoric. International law has been broken in the name of this phony war.

A simple change in government isn't enough, it needs to be slowly turned around. You cannot undo a quarter century of damage with one election.

   



Madman @ Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:29 am

just a little education for the ingnorant

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/catalytic-converter1.htm
29% of all CO2 produced in canada comes from road transportaion
CO2 is a natural by-product of combustion

CO, is only made in small quantities when an engine is opperating properly, infact high CO emissions are a sign of an engine running rich

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:52 am

Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
It isn't just that Republicans will try to ruin whatever Democrats do, Johnny. How do you go to the American people and say, "We've been lying to you about the war on drugs since Nixon was in the White House. Our country has a drug problem for complicated socio-economic reasons that we've never even tried to understand, let alone address. Several drug-producing countries are producing drugs because it is the only cash-crop they can grow that is still profitable after years of US and EU subsidies. The incursions the US has made into those countries have been more about gaining control of their resources and supporting US corporations than stemming the flow of drugs."

After twenty years of this, "Just say no," bullshit, a speech like that would cause riots in the street. A lot of law enforcement in the states depends on drug seizures for money. Massive numbers of jobs are tied up in the war on drugs. Foreign policy is dependent on the anti-drug rhetoric. International law has been broken in the name of this phony war.

A simple change in government isn't enough, it needs to be slowly turned around. You cannot undo a quarter century of damage with one election.


I know it's not just republicans. I don't trust the American government about anything. When most people vote, they vote for what they view as the lesser of two evils. All I can say is I would rather have someone with the reputation of being a bit liberal than a conservative who no one can trust at all after bringing the country to war and not finding any wmd, and who wants to implement faith-based programs for people who do drugs, and who wants to mess with the constitution about gay marriage. The law enforcement has to meet a mark as far as numbers are concerned, so sometimes people get off, other times people get searched with nothing on them, and other times the law enforcement get's lucky.

We're all probably going to turn into something out of Brave New World, with everyone being dosed anti-anxiety, or anti-depression medicine and just living numb to any feeling, and being drugged into submission.

Marijuana was almost legalized in Nevada, til John Waters stepped in. As much as marijuana is talked down to by the government, it's kind of nice to watch that the public seems to be slowly accepting marijuana. It's on more tv programs, and alot of times if jokes are made about it it gets alot of cheers and laughs. I think the government has lost credibility after showing how they can rush to war. I don't want to sound like a hippy, but I think it will be legalized in some years just because it seems that the next generation is more liberal than the previous which is running the country right now.

   



Rev_Blair @ Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:11 pm

It's a funny thing about pot. Even my father has come around to thinking it should be legalised. He's against drugs, but he recognises when something isn't working. My grandmother...she will turn ninety this year...still remembers when all the women used to plant pot around their gardens to keep the pests (bugs and rabbits, deer etc) away. She also remembers it being used as medicine quite regularly.

   



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