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Gore might have brought things left of centre, Zen. It didn't look like it back in 1999 though. What it looked like was a couple of rich guys trying to out-bid each other. No real ideas, no apparent differences. Most Americans didn't Gore's book. The Democrats had him pushing a right-wing economic agenda. He never went Bush on the Texas environment to any great extent.


Gore should have won easily, but decided to sell himself as Republican-lite. Not enough people were buying.

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That likely goes back to way before the Avro Arrow, Mario...probably since before Confederation. It still generally has to do with US government policies. This is the worst anybody has seen it though, apparently it's even worse than during Vietnam. Considering that our countries got along fairly well during the Clinton/Chetien days and the huge out-pouring of support that the US received from Canada and the rest of the world following 9-11, I think that what is perceived as rampant anti-Americanism is a direct response to the actions of the Bush regime.

It really got bad when Bush said that he going in Iraq next... We went into the Afghan war with them. One Canadian soldier got the world record for the longest rifle shot. 2450 meters.
Funny we don't have anything to say about England. They were in the same boat. My personnal opinion is that they were manupulated. Promises of Oil in exchange of help.

The real slide actually began when Bush started backing out of treaties. Canada is a multilateral nation. That is one of our greatest strengths. We do not like countries that act unilaterally to the detriment of others and the world.

I have travelled quite a bit and what I have found is that Americans are often their own worst enemies. Just the name "American" makes some people bristle. I have a friend who when someone tells her that they are American she asks them north or south as in North or South America. She feels they forget that Canada is a part of North America and that the average "American" is just too lazy to say they are an citizen of the United States of America! In my travels, I have found that as a rule they tend to be generous (I was a waitress at one time) but loud and ignorant people. In groups they can be worse. They seem shocked that the rest of the world is not like them. As for the ignorant part, I have a friend who's daughter is a Canadian married to an American and in her proffesional opinion their schoolsystem is sadly lacking in internation perspective. Perhaps an improvement in their education system will broaden their horizons and give them a broader sense of view. So, if I were giving advice to Americans who want to be better accepted, broaden your viewpoint, get educated about what goes on beyond your neck of the woods and be respectful of the fact that not everywhere you go will be like it was at home.

If you want to leave America it's fine, it is your right to do so. But why cut and run when things are not going your way? Why not stay and fight for change? I don't like the conservative route this country is taking but that doesn't mean I'd want to live anywhere else in the world. I wish more people would fight for what they believe America should and can be, it's too easy to run. I truly believe this is a country of the people, by the people, and for the people.

There is nothing wrong with someone choosing to leave one nation for another if they feel in their heart it is a good thing. You write that people should stay and change it, but if the system doesn't work, then how change it? Pick up the book titled "Fixing Elections" and realize that our electorial system makes it so that USA isn't really for the people by the people as much as your high school government teacher taught you to believe. Yes, we can work to change that, as the Green Party is trying to do. But, when one looks at the world massive demonstrations of February 2003, and still our government goes to war, when now a majority of the American public thought going to Iraq was wrong, and yet there is no real discussion of withdraw, then one really does question how much the government is by and for the people. I tell you, I write two paper letters a week to politicians, I have been to demonstrations, and I have written articles in the press. It is hard to not see change when you fight so hard. I am just writing that one should be allowed to consider immigration, as the Pilgrims did. Hell, America is founded on immigrants. It would be ironical, no, hypocritical to denounce another's intention to immigrate! Don't worry, I'll stay and fight for a while.

If you ever need a country to come to, give ours some thought, Antoine.

I consider it daily. There is a Canadian flag sticker on my car to show my respect for Canada, as it does kick ass. Don't worry yankees, I am not dissing America by showing appreciation for another.
Thanks for the invite Rev!

Canada..........Aint great...........Australia is a ten times better nation then canada mainly b/c they dont worry about anyones opinion of there nation they love there nation..........As an American you always fight for what's right america and running to canada shows the softness this womanization of american society has become!


white men cant be white men and black men cant black men...........and quit disresepecting the military

The majority of Australians were against the invasion of Iraq, AP. They didn't want to support American imperialism, they didn't want their soldiers at risk, and they didn't want anything to do with your country's illegal and immoral military actions.

Unlike George Bush's Amerika, Canada is still a free country. Now quit whining that people are sating things you don't like and think about why they are saying those things.

Funny how this was a nice thread about an American that wants to move to Canada for what ever reason, and a good exchange of thoughts and ideas. Then ignorance had to come into it. My idea is to ignore Americanpatriot's post as just another attempt to cause conflict on this site for his own twisted amusement. He and a few others (well one other) have been doing this for the past couple of weeks and it's taking the enjoyment out of the site for others who don't always want to get into drawn out mud slinging across the boarder. They're like a bad rash, don't scratch it and it will just go away.

Anyone see Farenheit 9/11 yet?
Saw it this past weekend and I knew about how most Americans did not agree with the whole war thing and I really hope Bush will not have a second term in office.
The questions Michael brought in his movie are really eye opening. The facts brought to light really makes you wonder if the Bush family became Presidents for the People of for more money.
Bring back the boys and girls from Afghanistan and Iraq, is what I say. I know the US government likes to show a very strong military presence around the world but sometimes I think the reasons are fake. And that's maybe why Canada did not go with the States for the second time VS Iraq, they were not convinced Iraq posed such a threat as Bush tried to put up.
Canada and the US have very strong ties to one another which makes us very strong allies, neighbours and friends. Through another board group I'm part of, almost all the members are Americans and they're all respectful towards me as I am towards them.
I just hope the Bush administration won't corrupt the relationship we've had in the past.

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