Who cares what America thinks?

China has shown no indication that it will go to war outside of Asia though, Johnny. About the only thing that could lead to a shooting war would be the disagreement over Taiwan escalating out of control. Seeing as how Taiwan, China, and the US have all decided to poke each other in the eyes over that, and the general dearth of leadership on all sides, that could happen.

Would that constitute China attacking the US? Not bloody likely. That means it isn't a NATO issue...they are required to defend members that are attacked, but foreign adventurism, whether you agree with US stance on Taiwan or not, by member states is not covered. The UN isn't going to be picking sides either. Given the USA's poor reputation in the world today and the growing power of the Chinese economy, I wouldn't be counting on too much help from Europe.

Once America falls(sooner the better) China and the EU will take its place as super power and unlike America they will actually do something good for the world. BigDubUSA you need to shutup and stop posting your hate. I am so sick of you Americans who think you have the right to post such crap. Ever hear of the saying "if you do not have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all?" Perhaps you Americans should learn that and follow that thought. We are sick of you American constantly saying nasty things about Canada and good things about your horrible country. We don't care what you think about your country nor do we care what you think about our country. It is plain and simple, our country is better then yours no matter how many lies you put out. STOP STOP STOP.

MAO!! This is typical of the hard left wacko nutters allowed by their parents to have untendered access to the woild weide weeb. . . .

Our economies are so intertwined that it is some times imposable to tell where one ends and the other starts. Other factors like the Transportation system (rail) between the two nations, the auto pact, Hydro, exports, soft wood, fish, are long standing agreements that make up a large part of both our economies and could not Easley be applied to other countries. Yes we should be looking for new partners but the fact is for better or worse we BOTH depend heavily on each other and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Hey Comtech... I know what you are trying to say, but you are using the wrong approach. There is great Americans, along with Great Canadians. Also, there is right wing extremist in both countries. CKA is forums is about opinions from all sides. Lets them post, present your views, but don't take it personnally. The WHO has the best country can be a matter of perspective. Between you and me, I think that this country is second to none (I hope I got this expression right). For an American that believes that they should have a paw everywhere in this world, to be an American would be second to none. The U.S. have a great military power, and are using it. How they are using it is what gets my blood boilling. They liberated the Afghans from the taliban and then left. Except for Kabul, the Taliban is winning this war. Janes has made a few articles already. They should have finished what they started before going into Iraq. Plus, the Iraq war was not over and Bush was making announcements that he was going in Syria; also a big oil producer. We all know how this ended up. Anyway, the fall elections should be interesting. The Iraq problem will not be fixed after the next elections. Iraq is way too divided. It doesn't matter anymore if WMD and and Human Rights were an issue.The Americans started something that may never be fixed.

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The US will fall though, Johnny...all empires do. The US is showing all the signs...militarily over-extended, disliked by most of the world, deeply in debt...that point to the fall not being that far off (50 years or less, most likely).

The thing is that the fall can fast and brutal (the former USSR, Roman Empire etc), leading to much strife, or it can be a slow fade that causes major adjustments to be made (British Empire eg), but remains relatively orderly. To achieve the slow fade version, the fall has to be recognised.

By refusing to understand that the US is failing and has put itself at risk of that failure being brutal and fast, you encourage that fast failure.

Very few people actually want to see the US fail, I certainly don't, because the repercussions of even a slow failure are going to be tough to take. The signs are all pointing to that failure though. Refusing to recognise them is just fiddling while Rome burns.

I see it different. The US is too big of a country to not play at least some roll on the international scene. What I see happening is that the US is going to lose it's dominance in the world. I think the European Union will be the next superpower, but the US will not suddenly fall into a 3rd world country, I just see it losing it's power and just being another wealthly country. I mean when the Soviet Union fell it started to lose states and had a failed system, while the US is flexible. First thing that needs to be gone is Bush. There have been times in US history when debts have run high. The US, superpower or not, has always been a pretty rich country, it's just in the past 50 or so years it boosted to superpower status because the rest of the world was still building up, while the US didn't suffer damages of a major war. The Roman empire was not held by international law in the same way the US is. The Roman empire was in some ways the same, and in others different, so just because they fell doesn't mean the US will. I mean look at countries like China or others which have been around for centuries, which is how I see the US falling. I don't see the US just disappearing from the globe, or shrinking, just losing it's influence and power. I agree that all empires fall, but not all fall the same. I think the keyword is multipolar, in which other countries keep the US in check and put a damper on it's power, while the US keeps them in check back.

I think you people forget that the US does still have alot of markets in it's country and still produces alot of goods which keep it's country going, plus there are still a good amount of resources in the US to keep them producing stuff. Now oil is another subject, but the US is not just some wasteland with no resources or business's to keep it's economy afloat.

No it won't just disappear...becoming a "third world backwater" is a possibility though. It's much more of a possibility if it is not recognised. It's much more of a possibility if the US continues on its current course. That's what makes the Bush regime so dangerous. They are willing to fiddle while Rome burns because Nero remained a rich man, actually got richer, when that happened.

Everything from the housing price bubble, to the debt, to the lack of willingness to begin switching from fossil fuels to alternate energy sources points to deep problems in the United States.