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ziggy @ Fri May 25, 2007 5:22 am

While travelling to work I get to see lots of small airports in Nunavut.Most have a little museum type wall with pictures from the past on it explaining about life in the early days. One thing I noticed is allmost all the pics are credited to the Danes and the Thule expeditions.I also read not long ago about a museum in Scotland that highlights the "Dene" peoples who once thrived in the Arctic. I have googled but not found a whole lot that isnt pdf format.

So if anyone has any links to a history site that deals mainly with Canadian Arctic history I would be much obliged.

Also any info on Dene gravesites,teepee rings and how to recognize them.

   



ziggy @ Fri May 25, 2007 3:48 pm

bump?

   



Arctic_Menace @ Fri May 25, 2007 5:39 pm

Sorry, this is all I could find at the moment without getting overly frustrated...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dene

http://www.denenation.com/

   



ziggy @ Fri May 25, 2007 9:36 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
Sorry, this is all I could find at the moment without getting overly frustrated...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dene

http://www.denenation.com/


Thanks,tough finding much info on these peoples. My Inuk buddy tells me about all the Dene graves scattered around and last week I found what I think are 2 teepee rings.Also now I know that Inukshuks are not allways elaborate affairs and sometimes just a single rock stood on end to mark fishing spots,a safe route to the next portage or a gravesite.

I allmost think the Dene were the first north Americans.
I'm also thinking they were related to the Mummy clan cave people in some way.

   



Arctic_Menace @ Fri May 25, 2007 10:12 pm

Crazy stuff man. It's weird how little we know about our ancient history...

   



ziggy @ Fri May 25, 2007 10:27 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
Crazy stuff man. It's weird how little we know about our ancient history...
and yet a 7 hour plane flight north of Winnipeg will have you in a place where people still live off the land and only see a store once a year if lucky.Like going back in time 100 years.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Fri May 25, 2007 10:27 pm

The glaciers altered the face of the planet. Who knows what else they scoured away? During the Ice Age the oceans were almost 300 feet lower than they are today,and humans have always lived near estuaries and the coasts. What lays undiscovered on the continental shelves? I'm not advocating the theory of vanished super civilizations, but perhaps Sumeria wasn't first.

   



ziggy @ Fri May 25, 2007 10:38 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The glaciers altered the face of the planet. Who knows what else they scoured away? During the Ice Age the oceans were almost 300 feet lower than they are today,and humans have always lived near estuaries and the coasts. What lays undiscovered on the continental shelves? I'm not advocating the theory of vanished super civilizations, but perhaps Sumeria wasn't first.

Thats why I was curious,at work we were hauling gravel from 4 seperate eskers which were left by receding glaciers 12,000 years ago. Because eskers are all sand and gravel they would be a prime spot for a camp or burial as everywhere else its just Canadian shield and rose granite.We didnt find any bones and what I thought were teepee rings were patterns of concentric rings and they are caused by the permafrost sorting out different types of gravel and silt as it freezes and thaws over the years.Weird shit,from a chopper these rings look like something carved out by aliens only to be seen from the air.

I think when the Dene first arrived the climate was more tropical,then they vanished or migrated south to Mexico as it cooled and started freezing in the north,then the Innuit came.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Fri May 25, 2007 10:44 pm

Northern canada hasn't been tropical since the Eocene. However, up until a few years ago most historians, felt that the human colonization of North America didn't begin until 13 000 years ago and it was strictly Asian(Clovis Point Culture). They've now excavated sites that show human settlement in eastern North America as early as 20 000 years ago.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Fri May 25, 2007 10:46 pm

South America may have been colonized by Amerinds and Polynesians

   



ziggy @ Fri May 25, 2007 11:04 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Northern canada hasn't been tropical since the Eocene. However, up until a few years ago most historians, felt that the human colonization of North America didn't begin until 13 000 years ago and it was strictly Asian(Clovis Point Culture). They've now excavated sites that show human settlement in eastern North America as early as 20 000 years ago.


Clovis points and the mummy clan cave people. :wink: Thats what first got me interested in this stuff.
We have 4 digs on our land with artifacts they say are maybe 12000 years old. As far as Native artifacts go I live in the best place in Canada for them here in the Crows nest pass. Because its right where the rockies end and the plains begin it was thought to be the primary route for southern migration when the inland sea receded.There are Chert mines behind my house on the livingstone range where they excavated the chert or rose quartz for arrowheads,thought to be also around 12,000 years old,well before the crows and other tribes came here.I have found obsidian arrowheads which I have traced to Yellowstone park and the lava flows,they must have been traded at some time,I figure the date to be about 6000 years ago as the native bands here(which were many)traded big time with the natives in whats now the northern USA.

Interesting stuff,lots of shit happening here before us whiteys/khablooniks arrived. :wink:

   



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