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John A Mcdonald : Greatest Canadian

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Canadaka @ Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:24 pm

watched the show on John A mcdonald on The CBC's Greatest Canadian show.

I really like the quote they had from him about the start of Canada compared to the US. my memory is bad and I cannot remember it but here is the jist of it.

He basically said how the americans through bloody war fought for there indipendance, then were fighting themselfs now (civil war). john saw a different way, a way of foming a federation of colonies to create a country, Canada, that would do things differently.

I also really liked how they compared the bloodshed in the american west and the unlawfulness. and how Canada saw this and yet again did it a differnet way, creating the RCMP (NWMP) to combat and stop the problem before it started.

overall i really enjoyed the show, I think he was the greatest Canadian, he afterall created this country.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:50 pm

I'm still going for Tommy Douglas. More than any other Canadian he pushed for government programs that promoted a social conscience. That attitude more than any other has defined and continues to define Canada.

Sir John A. may have gotten the ball rolling, but Tommy Douglas picked it up and sent it a direction that would make Canada stand head and shoulders above other nations.

   



polaco @ Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:01 pm

Sure wish we had a Tommy Douglas in our history. Anyone who advocates for a similar type of health care here is quickley marginalized as some sort of lunatic. Well, I hope the US border patrol boys are safe on the job while they're trying to stop the millions of Canadians coming into our country trying to escape the horrors of socialized medicine.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:34 pm

Well you have his grandson at least part of the time...Kiefer Sutherland.

   



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blubs @ Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:16 pm

99 % ofn the time I agree with you Rev . This time I don't I gotta go with Trev on this one . Mind you Tommy did an outstanding job with health care took a lotta shit over it too but John A is my . While the Americans were fighting their civil war John was bringing Canada together rather than tearing it apart like our southern neighbors .

   



Gonzo @ Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:46 pm

Both Sir John and Tommy did alot for this country, and leaders today are always trying to tear apart what they worked for. If more Canadians read up on our history and how much was put into building this country, maybe they wouldn't be so quick to elect destructive parties like The Bloc or the Conservatives. I know John A was a conservative, but the party has changed a great deal since his time.

   



mike2277 @ Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:35 am

It's Macdonald, hands down. No one else on that list even comes close. Why? Without John A. there would be NO Canadians, great or otherwise.

   



blubs @ Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:06 am

Gonzo Gonzo:
Both Sir John and Tommy did alot for this country, and leaders today are always trying to tear apart what they worked for. If more Canadians read up on our history and how much was put into building this country, maybe they wouldn't be so quick to elect destructive parties like The Bloc or the Conservatives. I know John A was a conservative, but the party has changed a great deal since his time.

I hear you Gonzo , like you I do wish more Canadians would raed up on our history . But I think the problem is that some find our history boring ,as compared to the history of the states . I think John A did a remarkable job in bringing this country together . He had a vision for this country and saw it through . Politicians these days seem to loose sight of that fact . They are only in power for their own personal gain these days . They don't give a damn about us little guys .

   



AdamNF @ Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:15 am

I voted for Lester Pearson, though i think he changed the world as a whole more then he changed Canada. Tommy D would be a close second for me.

   



chrisfer @ Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:35 pm

Tommy who?, never heard of him. Enough Said. Have any of our prime ministers really done enough to be the greatest Canadian?.
And are we judging by what they have done just in Canada or are we judging also their international work in which case you might look at Trudeau or the P,M's during both world wars. As for me I think our form of government is too logjammed by it's very design (ever seen a house of commons debate. LOL) to think a PM could be great at anything. Greatest, I'll go with Gretzky, not because of his talents but the way he represents himself and his country. A lot of class.

   



LaMitraille @ Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:11 am

This so called great canadian is known to be the official murderer of a national hero named Louis Riel... Wow McDonald! what a great pick! Why not choosing René Lévesque to be the greatest canadian... 8)

   



Canadaka @ Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:37 am

Louis Riel was a rebel, and in the context of the time and situation he was right to be hung for treason.

   



Banff @ Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:58 am

chrisfer chrisfer:
Tommy who?, never heard of him. Enough Said. Have any of our prime ministers really done enough to be the greatest Canadian?.
And are we judging by what they have done just in Canada or are we judging also their international work in which case you might look at Trudeau or the P,M's during both world wars. As for me I think our form of government is too logjammed by it's very design (ever seen a house of commons debate. LOL) to think a PM could be great at anything. Greatest, I'll go with Gretzky, not because of his talents but the way he represents himself and his country. A lot of class.
I agree because who and how that person represents us now is what is important even for our childrens future Both SIR JAM and TOMMY D, took both desperate and expensive measures to keep this country alive . The railroad with sponsors like the welfare queen was the only way to get out of same old fur trading and keeping health were desperate measures in a country struggling to keep above 30 M people . It would probably take another if not another measure like these and well into the future to make Canada . Could this be our existance and even future ? Canada is a place with a small number of international resource rapists (including technology) to provide for back home/abroad (whereever that might be) Canada works very hard in trying to define itself . It seems to me Duceppe and the Bloc is one small step in punk chew ateing that . By the way Gretzky politely used to serve his guests with cases of wine even though he himself doesn't drink so you might have a point :D :rock:

   



Mustang1 @ Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:38 am

Banff Banff:
chrisfer chrisfer:
Tommy who?, never heard of him. Enough Said. Have any of our prime ministers really done enough to be the greatest Canadian?.
And are we judging by what they have done just in Canada or are we judging also their international work in which case you might look at Trudeau or the P,M's during both world wars. As for me I think our form of government is too logjammed by it's very design (ever seen a house of commons debate. LOL) to think a PM could be great at anything. Greatest, I'll go with Gretzky, not because of his talents but the way he represents himself and his country. A lot of class.
I agree because who and how that person represents us now is what is important even for our childrens future Both SIR JAM and TOMMY D, took both desperate and expensive measures to keep this country alive . The railroad with sponsors like the welfare queen was the only way to get out of same old fur trading and keeping health were desperate measures in a country struggling to keep above 30 M people . It would probably take another if not another measure like these and well into the future to make Canada . Could this be our existance and even future ? Canada is a place with a small number of international resource rapists (including technology) to provide for back home/abroad (whereever that might be) Canada works very hard in trying to define itself . It seems to me Duceppe and the Bloc is one small step in punk chew ateing that . By the way Gretzky politely used to serve his guests with cases of wine even though he himself doesn't drink so you might have a point :D :rock:


Uhh…okay. 8O 8O

   



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