Oak Island Treasure Hunt
I never said it was accurate or historically correct. It's a theory.... It's part of the mythos of the island...
Yogi @ Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:23 am
In order to claim that ones theories about any subject are wrong, it would be incumbent on the naysayer to provide proof to the contrary, backed up by the naysayers own credible research!
Yogi Yogi:
In order to claim that ones theories about any subject are wrong, it would be incumbent on the naysayer to provide proof to the contrary, backed up by the naysayers own credible research!
The orthodox view - which has met stringent historical inquiry methodology - has already demonstrated a credible narrative. Those that take exception are required to demonstrate with peer-reviewed, objective evidence the faults with narrative construction. That's why Holocaust historians don't need to prove the Holocaust occurred simply because some whackjob Hitler-apologists don't believe it. The same applies to Egyptologists and the Alien/Super Civilization Pyramid nonsense and those that think Templars hid an treasure of Church-shattering esoteric knowledge in Nova Scotia.
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and those that think Templars hid an treasure of Church-shattering esoteric knowledge in Nova Scotia.
It's not in Nova Scotia. It's in Winnipeg where I have it sitting on the mantle of the the fireplace in our basement. I used to keep it as a paperweight at the office, but that damned humming noise it emits sounds too much like mosquitos.
Yogi @ Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:16 pm
So, to use your own logic, Mustang, one might say; "The orthodox view - which has met stringent historical inquiry methodology - has already demonstrated a credible narrative. Those that take exception are required to demonstrate with peer-reviewed, objective evidence the faults with narrative construction. That's why Oak Island historians don't need to prove the treasure of Oak Island exists simply because some whackjob skeptics don't believe it.
Yogi Yogi:
So, to use your own logic, Mustang, one might say; "The orthodox view - which has met stringent historical inquiry methodology - has already demonstrated a credible narrative. Those that take exception are required to demonstrate with peer-reviewed, objective evidence the faults with narrative construction. That's why Oak Island historians don't need to prove the treasure of Oak Island exists simply because some whackjob skeptics don't believe it.
Firstly, it's not "my logic" it's historical methodology. Secondly, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Oak island "historians" need to provide such to disprove the orthodox narrative. This is basis first-year history. The uninitiated are free to believe whatever they want, but they're still wrong, and they're still guilty of being gullible and uninformed. There intellectual security is their problem
Also, the only "peers" Oakies have are other whackjob writers. No professional historians, no archaeologists, only rank amateurs that intellectually masturbate each other on jacket flaps. Same tactic employed by Holocaust deniers, Alien Pyramid builders and Super Civilization crowd. Support them too?
Sorry, they're wrong. Got that Templar Church-shattering esoteric treasure to prove me wrong? Didn't think so.
Yogi @ Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:35 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Yogi Yogi:
So, to use your own logic, Mustang, one might say; "The orthodox view - which has met stringent historical inquiry methodology - has already demonstrated a credible narrative. Those that take exception are required to demonstrate with peer-reviewed, objective evidence the faults with narrative construction. That's why Oak Island historians don't need to prove the treasure of Oak Island exists simply because some whackjob skeptics don't believe it.
Firstly, it's not "my logic" it's historical methodology. Secondly, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Oak island "historians" need to provide such to disprove the orthodox narrative. This is basis first-year history. The uninitiated are free to believe whatever they want, but they're still wrong, and they're still guilty of being gullible and uninformed. There intellectual security is their problem
Also, the only "peers" Oakies have are other whackjob writers. No professional historians, no archaeologists, only rank amateurs that intellectually masturbate each other on jacket flaps. Same tactic employed by Holocaust deniers, Alien Pyramid builders and Super Civilization crowd. Support them too?
Sorry, they're wrong. Got that Templar Church-shattering esoteric treasure to prove me wrong? Didn't think so.
Without
proof of either believers, or non-believers, all we have are opinions. Believers can no more prove the treasure exists, than non-believers can prove that it doesn't!
Yogi Yogi:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Yogi Yogi:
So, to use your own logic, Mustang, one might say; "The orthodox view - which has met stringent historical inquiry methodology - has already demonstrated a credible narrative. Those that take exception are required to demonstrate with peer-reviewed, objective evidence the faults with narrative construction. That's why Oak Island historians don't need to prove the treasure of Oak Island exists simply because some whackjob skeptics don't believe it.
Firstly, it's not "my logic" it's historical methodology. Secondly, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Oak island "historians" need to provide such to disprove the orthodox narrative. This is basis first-year history. The uninitiated are free to believe whatever they want, but they're still wrong, and they're still guilty of being gullible and uninformed. There intellectual security is their problem
Also, the only "peers" Oakies have are other whackjob writers. No professional historians, no archaeologists, only rank amateurs that intellectually masturbate each other on jacket flaps. Same tactic employed by Holocaust deniers, Alien Pyramid builders and Super Civilization crowd. Support them too?
Sorry, they're wrong. Got that Templar Church-shattering esoteric treasure to prove me wrong? Didn't think so.
Without
proof of either believers, or non-believers, all we have are opinions. Believers can no more prove the treasure exists, than non-believers can prove that it doesn't!
Argumentative fallacy aside, this isn't about "believers". The historical narrative is constructed based upon fact and ojbective evidence. There is NO persuasive evidence to suggest that Templars/Sinclair left Europe, arrived in Nova Scotia, and hid a Church-shattering secret. None. And you've got nothing to suggest otherwise. Historians - scholarly ones - don't work off opinions, they construct arguments, and Oakies push subjective beliefs and opinions because they lack formal training and evidence. There's is a sad belief system bereft of structured academic thought.
No treasure, no history.
Believe what you want, i'll stick to history.
Well gentlemen, I'm a (modern day) Knights Templar, I can guarantee the only thing we left on Oak Island were two empty bean cans and a sliced bread wrapper.
Lemmy @ Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:04 pm
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Well gentlemen, I'm a (modern day) Knights Templar, I can guarantee the only thing we left on Oak Island were two empty bean cans and a sliced bread wrapper.
Your membership in the contemporary Freemasons (I'm a mason too) doesn't make you privy to any special knowledge that would allow you to guarantee anyone of what the Templars did or didn't do back "in the day". And next time you go picnicking, pick up your damn trash!
By Baphomet, you two fools, be silent!! Lest Bahamut be sent to swallow you.
Mustang....
So you have NO OPINION on the subject matter? Perhaps in future you should refrain from posting as it appears you sole intention is to start a flame war (not saying it is your agenda just how it appears)...
Cheers
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Mustang....
So you have NO OPINION on the subject matter? Perhaps in future you should refrain from posting as it appears you sole intention is to start a flame war (not saying it is your agenda just how it appears)...
Cheers
Of course I have an opinion, but mine is an argument - it was stated emphatically already = NO Templar treasure is "buried" on Oak Island. None. There is no super secrete esoteric repository of knowledge hidden away on Oak Island. None. I'd go further, but let's be honest, it would just be sail over your head.
Perhaps in the future you should just piss off as not only are you a blatant hypocrite (here's your little foray into this thread - "But in your myopic, insecure little world you know more about Nova Scotia then the people who live there? You've probably never ventured far from the comfort and confine of the basement apartment in your parents house'http://www.canadaka.net/forums/canadian-history-f11/oak-island-treasure-hunt-t28081-15.html) but you post nothing of substance other than to promulgate ignorance, push dumb agendas and whine like a two-year old.
I'll post when and where i want to and i don't orders from the likes of you.
Troll on.
Lemmy @ Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:02 am
On a similar note, apparently they've got this creature that lives in the depths of Loch Ness. Local legend says so. I've also found lots of references on the internet to this fact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_Ness_Monster

It must be true. The historical inquiry seems sound.
Well...if it's on the I-n-t-e-r-n-e-t, it must be true. And people believe it? That's another plus. We should just base academic discourse on polls - the majority thinks the Reformation didn't happen, then poof, it's stricken from the record. It would make life monumentally easier for some around here. 