Why Alberta Is Not Ontario
Tman1 @ Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:04 pm
Brenda Brenda:
I grew up in Holland and never felt at home. Now what? 
Maybe go to the rest of the Netherlands instead of the Holland part.
bootlegga @ Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:45 pm
mtbr mtbr:
bootlegga bootlegga:
What this article leaves out is that evil eastern corporations spent huge sums of money buidling factories and railroads to produce goods and transport them for CANADIAN consumption, not Ontario, Quebec or Alberta, but Canadian consumption. So why should those companies not lobby government to have higher tariffs on cheaper foreign made goods? Don't people here complain about cheap Chinese goods all the time? Why are cheap American goods okay, but cheap Chinese goods aren't? After all, the USA was the world's sweatshop in the late 19th century, so the parallel to me seems hypocritical.
What many people also do not realize is that the Canadian government's sole form of taxation prior to WW1 was tariffs and duties on foreign made goods. There was no national sales tax and income was only instituted in 1916 to pay for the war. So if they don't tax cheap American goods, then how does the Canadian government pay its bills?
This article also glosses over the fact that in the 1920s-30s, almost 50% of West's immigrants came from the US. That's a big reason for so-called the 'lack of anti-Americanism' in the West. After all, how many of them would come out and say they hate Aunt Ethel and Uncle Henry (even if they are boorish drunks)? Many of them came north looking to make a fortune and settled here, bringing with them their attitudes on guns, crime, personal rights et al.
What many people also do not realize is that the Canadian government's sole form of taxation prior to WW1 was tariffs and duties on foreign made goods. There was no national sales tax and income was only instituted in 1916 to pay for the war. So if they don't tax cheap American goods, then how does the Canadian government pay its bills?
This article also glosses over the fact that in the 1920s-30s, almost 50% of West's immigrants came from the US. That's a big reason for so-called the 'lack of anti-Americanism' in the West. After all, how many of them would come out and say they hate Aunt Ethel and Uncle Henry (even if they are boorish drunks)? Many of them came north looking to make a fortune and settled here, bringing with them their attitudes on guns, crime, personal rights et al.
They came north to a land of opportunity just like the ones from the east or the rest of the world. No need for the anti-american stereotype.
I simply said that a huge majority of immigrants to Alberta were from the US. They brought their attitudes with them, instead of assimilating (as most righties here want everyone to these days). It stands to reason that they also had children who, likely with whom they share similar views. Hence, the 'lack' of anti-Americanism in Alberta.
If telling the truth is anti-American, then feel free to label me as such.
uwish uwish:
and that attitude on guns, crime and personal rights are bad? I think not.
Maybe that is why the 'west' is the largest supporter of property rights, etc etc. Or do you like the fact the government can come and take YOUR legally owned property from you WITHOUT compensation?
If you do, then there is a MAJOR difference in west and 'non west' and I for one, will never yield from the western perspective.
Maybe that is why the 'west' is the largest supporter of property rights, etc etc. Or do you like the fact the government can come and take YOUR legally owned property from you WITHOUT compensation?
If you do, then there is a MAJOR difference in west and 'non west' and I for one, will never yield from the western perspective.
I never said property rights were a bad thing, I just tried to exaplin where it came from, as the article doesn't even bother to mention it.
CanAm1 @ Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:55 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
I like how all these kind of stories always play Toronto as the evil bad guy .
America: Blame Canada!
Canada: Blame Toronto!
.America: Blame Canada!
Canada: Blame Toronto!
Doesn't Toronto blame somebody?
Toronto doesn't care about anybodies opinion.
and it's more like
America: Canada? where's Canada?
Canada: America = Worlds problem!
such an inferiority problem we Canadians have.
I've lived in Ottawa, Toronto, Petawawa, Borden and London.
I've lived in Calgary and Edmonton.
I pick Alberta and i'm originally from government sucking Maritimes.
Three best cities in Canada are Montreal, Vancouver and Calgary! IMHO!
uwish @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:15 am
I think the truth is more American than you want to believe. Many Canadian truths are fictitious and based on emotional liberal rhetoric meant to make you feel good but in reality means nothing.
Alta_redneck @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:17 am
bootlegga bootlegga:
This article also glosses over the fact that in the 1920s-30s, almost 50% of West's immigrants came from the US. That's a big reason for so-called the 'lack of anti-Americanism' in the West. After all, how many of them would come out and say they hate Aunt Ethel and Uncle Henry (even if they are boorish drunks)? Many of them came north looking to make a fortune and settled here, bringing with them their attitudes on guns, crime, personal rights et al.
Boot, the only reason they were Americans is because they got on a boot that ended up in New York instead of Halifax. The term "American" is somewhat vague and cuts across many different ethno-cultural lines. According to the 1916 census 60% of the "Americans" who were residing in Alberta were actually of British origin while 13% were Germans, 7% Norwegian and 3% were Swedish. Taking 2 or 3 years to make it to the western US and then finding that the frontier had been closed to immigrants doesn't make them Americans with an attitude. It makes them immigrants that took a different path to get here. Sure they had kids born during their journey, they were the true Americans but I don’t think they were packing heat in their cribs.