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Thinking of Immigrating to Canada

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MooseCub @ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:07 am

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:
re: Texas
Well, they were their own country at one point... Patriotism like that dies hard. Even though they are Americans, they are Texans first. I see most states as having that type of system. After all, 50 united states, each with their own government and laws... Just as I am Nova Scotian when I speak to other Canadians, and am Canadian when speaking to foreigners...

Many folks are firm believers of, if it ain't broke don't fix it... They see nothing wrong with how they live in TX, so why bother bringing in the new... not everyone needs to be a progressive :wink:

This is true. (insert deep understanding nod here)

   



MooseCub @ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:09 am

Brenda Brenda:
Quebec has it's own rules and regs for immigration.
I saw that. Does anyone know why? It seems like Quebec is just walking to its own beat up there.

   



DrCaleb @ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:15 am

MooseCub MooseCub:
Brenda Brenda:
Quebec has it's own rules and regs for immigration.
I saw that. Does anyone know why? It seems like Quebec is just walking to its own beat up there.


It's the responsibility for each province to handle it's own immigration rules (there is your first understanding of the difference in government - our federal/provincial boundaries on many things). Quebec also has some very different rules with respect to language, especially of it's immigrants.

Quebec also uses the French traditional 'Civil law' form of Justice system for the Torte side, as opposed to the 'Common Law' English style. But still follows 'Common Law' for it's Criminal side.

   



maldonsfecht @ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:18 am

MooseCub MooseCub:
Brenda Brenda:
Quebec has it's own rules and regs for immigration.
I saw that. Does anyone know why? It seems like Quebec is just walking to its own beat up there.


If it helps, look at Quebec as Texas... They used to be their own nation (or French colony) and have a different culture and in Quebec's case, language, than the majority of Canada. My family came from New Hampshire colony to fight the French here in Nova Scotia and Quebec before the American Revolution... We, the British Army and American Colonial Militias won. Memories are long up North of the border too... :wink:

   



Canadian_Mind @ Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:42 pm

Just keep in mind every part of this country has some subtle and strong differences as the different parts of the US. Example being I found there is more in common between Ontario and New York State than say Ontario and Alberta. Very different culture, attitude, perspective on life, etc.

   



Caelon @ Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:10 pm

A number of things. First when you consider where you have lived in the US what areas appealed to you most? Think more climate and geography. For states within a 300 miles of the border going straight north would keep the climates and topography similar. So if you liked Montana pick Alberta, Washington State pick BC, Illinois pick Ontario and so on. As each province is different once you pick an area it is easier to be specific on the experience you will have.

Some of us may be biased for and against certain areas. I can tell you every place in the world has good points and bad points. Your personal taste will decide which fits you the best. That said in Canada, Alberta has the best economy, overall climate, taxation and friendliest people. Of course that is an unbiased opinion.

Unfortunately we do need lawyers. Even business ones. As for qualifying I do not know if you can simply challenge the bar exam or if you need to take courses or article before obtaining a license. Definitely you should check out the requirements before committing yourself.

   



EyeBrock @ Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:30 pm

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
MooseCub MooseCub:
Brenda Brenda:
Quebec has it's own rules and regs for immigration.
I saw that. Does anyone know why? It seems like Quebec is just walking to its own beat up there.


It's the responsibility for each province to handle it's own immigration rules (there is your first understanding of the difference in government - our federal/provincial boundaries on many things). Quebec also has some very different rules with respect to language, especially of it's immigrants.

Quebec also uses the French traditional 'Civil law' form of Justice system for the Torte side, as opposed to the 'Common Law' English style. But still follows 'Common Law' for it's Criminal side.


Quebec has a special dispensation to control immigration to QC. No other province can control immigration. In the ROC, immigration is a federal responsibility.

$1:
Since the coming into effect of the Cullen Couture Agreement in 1978, as amended by subsequent accords between the Governments of Canada and Quebec (Canada-Quebec Accord Relating to Immigration and Temporary Admission of Aliens, 1991), the Quebec Government is the only province to have concluded a comprehensive agreement with the Government of Canada for the purpose of facilitating the formulation, coordination and implementation of immigration policies and programs with respect to the admission of foreign nationals to a province. Consequently, in 1981, the Quebec Government enacted (and re-enacted in 1994 and in 2006), its own laws regulating the selection of foreign nationals wishing to settle permanently or temporarily in Quebec: An act respecting immigration to Québec, (R.S.Q., c.I-0.2) and its attendant regulations. The following presentation provides an overview of the current rules and processing procedures for Quebec destined applicants applying under the Economic Class.

   



jeff744 @ Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:01 pm

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
Just keep in mind every part of this country has some subtle and strong differences as the different parts of the US. Example being I found there is more in common between Ontario and New York State than say Ontario and Alberta. Very different culture, attitude, perspective on life, etc.

If you go anywhere in the prairies you best find out what the local CFL team is, once you wear the local colours everyone will love you (especially if you go to Sask and wear Roughriders stuff (also works to some extend in Alberta as half of them are originally from Sask)).

   



BCme @ Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:08 pm

MooseCub MooseCub:
Is it that different from the U.S?


Yes. When I moved from Idaho to BC I thought BC was going to be much like living in the States... I was so wrong. Cost of living is much higher and there are significant differences in politics and laws. Thankfully driving in BC is almost exactly like driving in the States. Learn the meaning of the flashing green light.

MooseCub MooseCub:
I have passed through quite a few forums and a lot of Canadians seem rather anti-american and ignorant, eg. all Americans wear cowboy hats and have the mighty need to own a shotgun. This is not to say Americans aren't jerks too, Canada is the butt of every joke here but I digress.


The lunatic fringe and stereotypes are everywhere, no matter what Country you visit. But I like to think most Canadians as well as Americans can see past such hyperbole.

MooseCub MooseCub:
Are Canadians to immigrants how are Americans are about Mexicans? I personally support immigration as long as it is done legally and one becomes a productive citizen no matter where they go.


Canadians seem supportive of immigration so long as you can support yourself and immigrate legally. Although, like America, some are against it or have gripes to one degree or another.

MooseCub MooseCub:
I also understand the Queen of the UK is head of state of that I am not a fan of, simply because I was not raised under a monarch, but I am also told she is more a symbolic head. How true is this?


From what I understand the Queen is a figurehead and wields no real power. The political power is with the Members of Parliament and the Prime Minister of Canada.

MooseCub MooseCub:
How free are Canadians compared to U.S citizens?


From what I can tell, Canadians enjoy the same freedoms as the U.S. and perhaps more. The U.S. in general is very conservative even though it has a huge liberal population. Living in BC I have seen things I would never see in the U.S. like a protest in here in Canada where women protested topless and it was televised unedited on the nightly news. Conservatives in the U.S. would blow a fuse over something like that being televised in the U.S.

MooseCub MooseCub:
How is the economy of Canada run?


There are huge taxes here in comparison to living in the U.S. Here in BC there is a 12% sales tax. There are also large recycling fees attached to many electronic goods. So a 50$ microwave in Boise Idaho would cost 53$ with taxes, here in BC it would be like 62$ with taxes and recycling fees. Food is high, beer is high, gas is high, pretty much everything is going to cost more in BC when compared to most of America.

MooseCub MooseCub:
Is is possible to be an entrepreneur in Canada or is it socialist?


Free enterprise is alive and well here in Canada. As for socialist... I do see some programs that I would say are socialist, like the Government run safe injection site for drug users in Vancouver. But to say Canada is a socialist Nation would be inaccurate.

MooseCub MooseCub:
What is the sentiment towards people of color in Canada?


From what I can tell, Canada is a very ethnically diverse and tolerant Nation. In the area of BC i live in there is a huge East Indian community as well as a sizable Asian community and I have in my 6 months here not seen any ethnic clashes of any relevance.

Good luck my friend. Canada is a beautiful and friendly place.

   



fifeboy @ Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:48 pm

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
MooseCub MooseCub:
I'm in college right now and my significant other, myself and our dog are thinking of cutting out on the U.S, and going to Canada (or some other country) instead of living it out here. Our reasons are numerous ranging from racial, to social, to economic issues with the U.S, but obviously I am a bit well, nervous. My significant other was born in Canada but he moved here when he was young so he knows nothing about Canada, meaning we're diving in here with our eyes closed.


Firstly, Welcome to the site.

MooseCub MooseCub:
Is it that different from the U.S?


Yes. We are not as uptight as many of our southern neighbours seem to be. We don't worry about things that are inconsequential.

MooseCub MooseCub:
I have passed through quite a few forums and a lot of Canadians seem rather anti-american and ignorant, eg. all Americans wear cowboy hats and have the mighty need to own a shotgun. This is not to say Americans aren't jerks too, Canada is the butt of every joke here but I digress.


You might find some jerks here too, but not likely. People are people, no matter where you go.

MooseCub MooseCub:
I have met very pleasant Canadians which help me not commit the internet sin of generalization.


Like above, people in general are good, no matter where you go. Put them on the Internet, and for some reason that changes.

MooseCub MooseCub:
Refocusing though, what it the sentiment of immigration in Canada? Are Canadians to immigrants how are Americans are about Mexicans? I personally support immigration as long as it is done legally and one becomes a productive citizen no matter where they go.


You will find some people that don't like any sort of immigration. Most people enjoy the diversity, and prefer to have immigrants with skills. Be aware however, if you are a professional your accreditations may not be 100% accepted here. Eg, a Medical Doctor or Engineeer from South America may need extra courses to bring them up to Canadian Standards.

MooseCub MooseCub:
Can out dog come with us? I know its weird to ask, but you never know.


Yes, you can. I'd hate to leave my dog behind too.

MooseCub MooseCub:
How different are the governments?


Very. It is said that a Republic protects the individual from the tyranny of the government, but a Parlamentary Democracy protects the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Something like that.

MooseCub MooseCub:
I understand the schools are much better than here which is a huge plus for me, should I decide to have a child.


Alberta was recently recognized as the #1 educational system in the Western World by the British Prime Minister.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/22/we%E ... -is-clear/

MooseCub MooseCub:
I also understand the Queen of the UK is head of state of that I am not a fan of, simply because I was not raised under a monarch, but I am also told she is more a symbolic head. How true is this? Can she send Canada back to the 1800's is she felt like it one day or no?


Almost true. The Queen of Canada is our head of State. Subtle differrence, but it's an important one. She is indeed mostly symbolic, but does still hold important power in our system of government. She just never excercises it.

MooseCub MooseCub:
What happens when she dies?


We name a new head of state. Wayne Gretzky, Tom Connors and The Duke of Cambridge are all in the running.

MooseCub MooseCub:
Can I just spend my life pretending she isn't real or do I have to pay alms to her?


Yes, you must prostrate to her every morning, before moring excercise. Learn 'God Save the Queen', as it's sung before every corporate meeting.

MooseCub MooseCub:
How free are Canadians compared to U.S citizens? I don't need anyone flipping out on me either, I'm not jaded about the U.S I know about the Patriot Act.


Define 'free'. I can do what I want, mostly within the law, as often as I want. I am free to flourish, and I'm free to starve as well.

MooseCub MooseCub:
What should I know about Canada that I won't learn through google? How is the economy of Canada run? Is is possible to be an entrepreneur in Canada or is it socialist? What is the sentiment towards people of color in Canada?


Everything. And don't be one of those who confuses 'socialism' with 'communism' and think it's the opposite of 'capitalism'. One is a system of government, one is an economic system.

Colour (as we spell it ;) ) is not an issue if you don't make it one. There are always individual exceptions, but for most people most of the time, we don't make any note of it at all.

MooseCub MooseCub:
I am sorry for all the questions, I am not looking for a utopia, but I do want to be happy and I am not happy here in the U.S. I do not know if happiness can be found in Canada but if it can be then I think I should leave here. In the same breath, I don't want to have a grass is greener experience either. Thank you :mrgreen:
Excellent answer.

   



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