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Just using the tank as a point for comparison, Merkava maybe - carries troops, tracked, mortar on the back....

Nah, too agressive for us Canucks.... (plus the damn thing is to heavy for anything but the desert).

Anyway... where were we..... oh yeah... boo, media.

   

They can be mixed up if you are not used to seeing them I guess (usually the media calls anything big, green and armoured a tank), but they are very different. I have not heard of any bison roll overs, but the bisons don't get the mass use the Lav is getting

   

So the Bison was procurred for it's use, and the LAV wasn't.

   

I am not sure why but all you really see the Bison used for is as a command Veh, ambulance, MRT, and I think the Jimmies use'em also. CF that is, I don't know what the yanks do with them

   

My 9 years of service was in the CF, as a Jimmy. I don't think the yanks use them either - they just double stack hum vees for all their good stuff.

Either way, I'm done with this thread. I've voiced my thoughts and opinions on the issue.

   

I think the Marines were buying shitloads of them in the 90's

   

screw them, beleive it or not (and i can validate this), they dont' train nearly as hard as we do. when i say we, i'm talking combat support. sad sad sad

   

Yeah they are usually to busy with a shooting war to train!! lol

   

if you only knew - even during the Clinton years

   

Bossdog, while not dismissing your 9 years of service, as a jimmy no less, you really aren't qualified to comment on the LAV III. Every vehicle has it's problems, some worse than others. Speaking as a LAV Driver Instructor, Crew Commander Instructor, and a LAV Gunner Instructor, the LAV is easily a 1000% improvement over the M113 or the AVGP family of vehicles.
That being said my condolences to the family of Pte Woodfield on the loss of their only son. Tony MacIvor is a good friend of mine and I just heard from a reliable source that he has been released from hospital and will be okay. Have not heard about the remaining 3 so will not comment.

   

Must be different Marines than the one's I trained with in the 90's. I always found them to be professional, fit and highly motivated. These days, their experience level in actual two way ranges gives them a further advantage over our guys. There's a reason many Canadian units are rotating through places like Pendleton and Legune prior to deployments abroad.

On top of that, what does "hard" training have to do with whether a LAV is a good vehicle or not? Are you trying to say Marine Mech units don't operate in training areas laced with trenches, gulley's and other obstacles? Do Canadian LAV drivers drive their vehicles that much harder than their Marine coutnerparts? I doubt it.

   

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