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they are not SF.......???? how

   

given their budget and numbers......they are superior

   

1 and 10 make the team so i hope i make the 1 out of ten lol

   

They are Regular force Sappers who occupy normal postions within a Combat Engineer Regiment. They get nailed with Kitchen Duty, Regimental Duty Driver, and all the BS that every other troop has to fill. The difference is having completed a Dive Course (run by the RCN) and been validated by attending and succesfully completing the Combat Diver portion run by Engineers. They would then become a member of a Dive Team, but those teams are only manned when tasked, so until needed they're doing regular same old same old Regimental duty. They are entitled to Dive pay provided they remain current.

Still confident in your knowledge of the CF?

Know about CSOR yet? We're jumping on the "SF" bandwagon now by forming the Special Operations Regiment.

Here's the first part of the CANFORGEN:

CANFORGEN 195/05 DCDS 185 201320Z DEC 05
CANADIAN SPECIAL OPERATIONS REGIMENT (CDN SPEC OPS REGT) IMPLEMENTATION AND RECRUITING CAMPAIGN 2006 - CDN SPEC OPS REGT OPERATORS AND SUPPORTERS
UNCLASSIFIED
1. THE RECENT CREATION OF THE CANADIAN SPECIAL OPERATIONS
FORCES COMMAND (CANSOFCOM) PROVIDES THE CANADIAN GOVT AND CDS WITH AN AGILE, HIGH READINESS SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE (SOF) CAPABLE OF CONDUCTING SPECIAL OPERATIONS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF CONFLICT AT HOME AND ABROAD.
2. THE CDN SPEC OPS REGT WILL BE AN INTEGRAL COMPONENT OF
CANSOFCOM, AND WILL PROVIDE A RAPID RESPONSE CAPABILITY FOR SPECIAL OPERATION MISSIONS THROUGHOUT CANADA AND THE WORLD. THE CDN SPEC OPS REGT WILL COMPLEMENT JTF 2 AND WILL BE CAPABLE OF INDEPENDENT HIGH-READINESS COMBAT OPS. CDN SPEC OPS REGT ROLES INCLUDE SUPPORT TO COUNTER-TERRORISM, DIRECT ACTION, SPECIAL RECONNAISSANCE, NON-COMBATANT EVACUATION OPERATIONS,
AS WELL AS DEFENCE DIPLOMACY AND MILITARY ASSISTANCE. POTENTIAL CANDIDATES CAN EXPECT CHALLENGING AND DYNAMIC EMPLOYMENT IN SMALL TEAMS AS A PART OF AN OPERATIONALLY FOCUSED UNIT. TO FACILITATE IMPLEMENTATION, THE UNIT WILL FILL POSITIONS AND CONDUCT TRAINING AND ASSESSMENT USING A PHASED APPROACH...

The rest can be found here:

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=35793.new

I'm waiting for the peaceniks to absorb this bit of int.!

   

FWIW, I'd recommend changing your implied mindset and start correcting your personal shortcomings now. Oh, and PT, till you puke, and then even more.
I'd also thinking about dropping any references to illicit drugs and other things of similar vein. I think you'd find that the CF (particularily members of the Combat Arms) is not real tolerant of such activity and of those who condone it.

But maybe that's just me.

   

Just as I thought, Canada just only assist to help others .. and w/e SPRCForr said all i have to say is WHATEVER im going to make it and thats that.

   

Every former "super power" that came before said the same thing and as in your case they underestimated their opponent.

   

If your talking about being a Combat Diver, no, you won't. Going by the quality of your posts, I figure you won't be getting past the piss/blood test in the recruitment phase. Saying it ain't going to make it so.



Ummm, did a synapse or something misfire? This insightful and cutting comment belongs to what subject, exactly?

   

Well considering the fact that our population base is less than LA, NYC and Chicago, how big a force do we need? Budget wise the same. How do you know that we don't equip our force to the same extent as say Delta? Since our unit is smaller we don't need a budget the same size as the US, logical right?

Want to drop this line of discussion?

   

Life is there... if your up for it =P

   

Sounds like fun

   

Confirms my theory.

   

i havant got a chance to reply in the last few days....but i read on cbc that the JTF2 get 25 million a yr....im not sure on the exact numbers the delta force gets...but it is more...as for the special forces thingy....they r special forces....again, in cbc's website they also said that.....

   

So relying on money makes the soldier? It is the skill of the personnel, not the equipment that makes them a fantastic soldier.

   

The Combat Divers are not SF. They aren't part of JTF-2, they are a part of the regular Combat Engineer Regiments. Check the organisation of a Combat Engineer Regiment for yourself.

JTF-2 is SF. There may be Combat Diver qualified individuals on those teams. There will be dive qualified pers on those teams. The JTF would train their own pers for their own specific needs. A difference you should be able to grasp with your knowledge of US Special Forces. Just because a troop might be dive qualified (like Ships Diver or Clearance Diver) doesn't mean he's Combat Diver qualified.
CBC as the source on the CF? You're kidding right? Their budget numbers are pure spec. I'm suprised you didn't know that.



Actually, I think it's pretty lousy.

CBC?

   

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