What does everyone think of it?

I think refugees are very important. The legit ones. We need them with our aging population.

But there are obviously the scammers.

I'm looking for some opinions on this, and some fact to back up either side of the debate.

   

I think you're confusing refugees with immigrants, we don't "need" refugees, the world would be a lot better place if no one had to seek refuge at all.

   

One thing they should do, is no longer accept refugee claims from any of the G8 countries.

If we did we wouldn't have to get involved in American affairs when their soldiers come up here to claim refugee status because they dont want to go to Iraq.

   

All good points so far.

Cheers

   

I hear that Alberta has a shortage of workers.

Ship them all out there.

Win win situation


And Bodah, those are the refugee's we can trust.

   

Well so far as refugees are concerned I feel that anyone with a legitimate claim to refugee status should have their case heard and judged as we have done for ages now.

Immigration is a whole nuther kettle of fish. We have to start taking the best people regardless of where they are from and have a better system to get the huge numbers of professionals that immigrate here certified to practice their profession. We have all heard the storys of doctors and engineers driving cabs etc etc. We allow these folks to immigrate here and then they wind up in limbo land for far too long.

By the same token, I think we need to have a system where by these professionals have to work in the areas that need them most. They cannot all just head to Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal. It should not be a permenant "posting" as it were but it gets them back into their profession and helps out the less "popular" areas. Who knows? Maybe someone from New Dehli might grow attached to Dildo Newfounland.

   

I think our immigration process is retarded from top to bottom.

Firstly, the "Family Reunification Program" is absurd. We are one of the few countries of the world (if not the only one) who actually encourages elderly people from the third world to move here. That's stupid.

Why the hell are we, with our failing health care system, importing people over the age of 60 who've never paid one cent of taxes here into the country? Within a decade of arrival, everyone of those people are going to be making extensive use of the national health care plan.

Why?


Second, when we deport people for criminal activity, I think it would be an excellent idea to ACTUALLY SEE THAT THEY LEAVE THE COUNTRY! Most would think that's common sense but that's not what happens.

In most cases, known criminals from other lands get about a million hearings, then Immigration Canada just issues a warrant for them and we order them to leave. It's based on something called the "honour system." As you can imagine, it's very effective. NOT!

And why do we need so many immigrants anyway? It may be true that Canada is underpopulated, but the fact is Toronto and Vancouver aren't underpopulated, they're bursing at the seams. And that's where immigrants tend to end up.

It's not the 1890's anymore. New immigrants to Canada don't get off the boat, head west, stake out a claim in Dauphin Manitoba or Estevan Saskatchewan and start farming.

They move to Toronto, where they immediately put a burden on that city's social services net, and begin struggling due to a lack of basic skills like English.

I have many, many, many, many more complaints.

Anyone care to hear them ?

   

Not really.

Family Class Immigration

   

You can quote that all you like. The fact is, they don't have to support their family's health care costs.

My wife is from abroad. I brought her in under the family class. She's a resident, and she has a health card just like you and I. She recieved it 3 months after landing.

The same goes for every other person who comes in under the family class. Including the elderly.

The only thing they're not supposed to access is welfare. But even that's not enforced.

   

What about 'immigrants' like this guy? Any policy to stop people like him?

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten ... 8332188492

   

Ask Garry.

   

All immigrants should be held in jail for processing before they enter Canada.No one gets in without proper screening.

There should be a minimum language skill for both reading and writing. They should have atleast $50,000 in cash so they can support themselves. The last thing we should be doing is feeding them when we have so many Canadians that don't get to eat properly. They should also have a Canadian sponsor them into Canada and not allow those refugees that show up without documents and expect us to look after them.

   

Ok explain why we need this then. Then show how more rules will make that faster and how are we going to solve this problem.

After that, can you explain why we need immigrants without skills in the 1st place?