Caucasian Privilege
[font=Comic Sans MS] And when those Europeans got here they stunk like shit and piss and as I said there is no way of knowing whether the indians would've been better off or worse off you frikin dumb rednecks
The indians contributed alot like the aboriginal war vets who fought overseas for your stinkin redneck freedom so go f%$k yourselves you a@$$holes [/font] Next Sunday think about how the aboriginal war vets fought for your stinkin redneck and freedom! and pass thiss on to all your other dumb redneck counterparts as well as the shallow phony right wingers! The shallow right wingers who are all going to kill there wife and kids in the futre for insurance $$$$$ By the way Brenda and WW whatever I am white
Brenda @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:15 am
When the European immigrants landed in Halifax by boat, they smelled to. So?
A little water will solve that problem...
So YOU are telling me I should be glad THE ABORIGINAL VETS FOUGHT THEIR ASSES OFF IN THE SECOND WW, eh? Sorry, sweets, but I don't care whether those soldiers were white, black, purple, orange or red, or even rednecks. They were there, and yes, I am glad. But I am not going on my knees for that. It has been over 60 years ago, and if they hadn't been there, my life would have been different, probably. But it isn't, and I am not gonna kiss YOUR ass for the men who were there, cause YOU weren't. I OWE YOU NOTHING.
Like I said before, DM, I don't care what colour your skin is. I am judging you on your words, not on your looks 
Brenda @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:22 am
$1:
as I said there is no way of knowing whether the indians would've been better off or worse off you frikin dumb rednecks
So... why blaming "the white Europeans" for your problems, if you don't even know if they did it to you?
My goodness, DM, you have really no clue on what you are saying, are you?
Brenda Brenda:
ROTFL

When the European immigrants landed in Halifax by boat, they smelled to. So?

A little water will solve that problem...
So YOU are telling me I should be glad THE ABORIGINAL VETS FOUGHT THEIR ASSES OFF IN THE SECOND WW, eh? Sorry, sweets, but I don't care whether those soldiers were white, black, purple, orange or red, or even rednecks. They were there, and yes, I am glad. But I am not going on my knees for that. It has been over 60 years ago, and if they hadn't been there, my life would have been different, probably. But it isn't, and I am not gonna kiss YOUR ass for the men who were there, cause YOU weren't. I OWE YOU NOTHING.
Like I said before, DM, I don't care what colour your skin is. I am judging you on your words, not on your looks

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No Im saying they "fought their assess off in the war for your freedom" Not going on your knees for that then your a real ass. What sarcasm! SHame on you especially before Remembrance Day. Many of those soldiers including ab vets died for you A$$hole. Im not asking you to kiss my ass either or Im not asking for anything. Like I said beofre if I can straighten out some warped minds then great![/font]
Brenda @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:24 am
You are saying ABORIGINAL vets fought their asses off. I am saying CANADIAN vets fought their asses off. You are the one making the difference between them, not me. Now please, stop twisting my words.
DangerMouse DangerMouse:
[font=Comic Sans MS] And when those Europeans got here they stunk like shit and piss and as I said there is no way of knowing whether the indians would've been better off or worse off you frikin dumb rednecks
The indians contributed alot like the aboriginal war vets who fought overseas for your stinkin redneck freedom so go f%$k yourselves you a@$$holes [/font] Next Sunday think about how the aboriginal war vets fought for your stinkin redneck and freedom! and pass thiss on to all your other dumb redneck counterparts as well as the shallow phony right wingers! The shallow right wingers who are all going to kill there wife and kids in the futre for insurance $$$$$ By the way Brenda and WW whatever I am white
I'm not sure whether to tell you to get a dictionary or a clue... because you need both badly. I don't imagine you have the mental capacity to do both of those tasks, so don't bother trying, wouldn't want you to give yourself a migraine.
I'd suggest the dictionary, if you can at least spell people will assume you have an IQ of at least 80, despite how stupid your opinions are.
Brenda Brenda:
$1:
as I said there is no way of knowing whether the indians would've been better off or worse off you frikin dumb rednecks
So... why blaming "the white Europeans" for your problems, if you don't even know if they did it to you?

My goodness, DM, you have really no clue on what you are saying, are you?
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Bit isnt that what historians call "present-mindedness?" It works both ways. The Europeans had no way of knowing about matters when they first got here or what was going to happen? And it is unfair to make judgments about that today based on what we know presently. I think that's "present-mindedness." Were all guilty of committing what historians call "present-mindedness" and that was what I was trying to say.
The way many whites talk as though the indians were better off after the europeans came along.Really? I mean think about that from what you know from your narrowminded perseption of history. I doubt if you can go very deep
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Brenda @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:45 am
DangerMouse DangerMouse:
Brenda Brenda:
$1:
as I said there is no way of knowing whether the indians would've been better off or worse off you frikin dumb rednecks
So... why blaming "the white Europeans" for your problems, if you don't even know if they did it to you?

My goodness, DM, you have really no clue on what you are saying, are you?
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Bit isnt that what historians call "present-mindedness?" It works both ways. The Europeans had no way of knowing about matters when they first got here or what was going to happen? And it is unfair to make judgments about that today based on what we know presently. I think that's "present-mindedness." Were all guilty of committing what historians call "present-mindedness" and that was what I was trying to say.
The way many whites talk as though the indians were better off after the europeans came along.Really? I mean think about that from what you know from your narrowminded perseption of history. I doubt if you can go very deep
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Always insulting, aren't you?
I have no idea what "historians call present-mindedness". All I say is it is what it is now, not much to change about it. Personally, I think, that if things didn't happen the way they did, the world would have been a different place now.
I might even still be in Indonesia, or not even born. Who cares? I live now, not in the day my great-great grandparents lived. Not in the days they were surpressed. Not in the days of the dinosaurs. I live now, I made my own choices based on my own experience.
All I have heard you say, is that the white Europeans did you wrong years and years ago, and that you need to be compensated for that. From my taxes. And you want respect in the same time. Next thing you do, is drag the WWII into this. I wasn't born, my grandfather had Jews in his house. Do I expect those Jews to pay me because my grandfather saved them? Of course not! I am just glad they are still alive. Some members of my family were killed during that war. Do I blame the now living Germans for that? NO. Of course not. Do I want them to pay me? NO, of course not. It was just that way, and there is only one to blame, and that's Hitler.
Maybe you need to stop blame "the white conquerers" for things that happened ages ago, and just be glad with the way people living now (of all races) are trying to make up for it. Just stop whining, and adept. Accept what has been offered, and move on. Staying to live in the past is only ruining your life.
Brenda Brenda:
DangerMouse DangerMouse:
Brenda Brenda:
$1:
as I said there is no way of knowing whether the indians would've been better off or worse off you frikin dumb rednecks
So... why blaming "the white Europeans" for your problems, if you don't even know if they did it to you?

My goodness, DM, you have really no clue on what you are saying, are you?
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Bit isnt that what historians call "present-mindedness?" It works both ways. The Europeans had no way of knowing about matters when they first got here or what was going to happen? And it is unfair to make judgments about that today based on what we know presently. I think that's "present-mindedness." Were all guilty of committing what historians call "present-mindedness" and that was what I was trying to say.
The way many whites talk as though the indians were better off after the europeans came along.Really? I mean think about that from what you know from your narrowminded perseption of history. I doubt if you can go very deep
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Always insulting, aren't you?
I have no idea what "historians call present-mindedness". All I say is it is what it is now, not much to change about it. Personally, I think, that if things didn't happen the way they did, the world would have been a different place now.
I might even still be in Indonesia, or not even born. Who cares? I live now, not in the day my great-great grandparents lived. Not in the days they were surpressed. Not in the days of the dinosaurs. I live now, I made my own choices based on my own experience.
All I have heard you say, is that the white Europeans did you wrong years and years ago, and that you need to be compensated for that. From my taxes. And you want respect in the same time. Next thing you do, is drag the WWII into this. I wasn't born, my grandfather had Jews in his house. Do I expect those Jews to pay me because my grandfather saved them? Of course not! I am just glad they are still alive. Some members of my family were killed during that war. Do I blame the now living Germans for that? NO. Of course not. Do I want them to pay me? NO, of course not. It was just that way, and there is only one to blame, and that's Hitler.
Maybe you need to stop blame "the white conquerers" for things that happened ages ago, and just be glad with the way people living now (of all races) are trying to make up for it. Just stop whining, and adept. Accept what has been offered, and move on. Staying to live in the past is only ruining your life.
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Hey Brenda I have other matters to tend to today! You look into "present-mindedness." I have an idea on what it is and that's a huge problem in forums like this! Yes I admit I'm guilty of it as well. There is no way of knowing whether or not the natives were better off, or, worse off after the boats from europe came. What I do know is that people today make it sound like the indians were better off and to me that's questionable, but as I said, there is no way of knowing. I know of aboriginal vets who fought in the war despite the injustices committed to their parents and grantparents
Nobody ever mentions how the navajo language and the code-talkers played a huge role and how that factors into all of our freedom today! So there! PLZ don't say the indians didnt do a damn thing! WHo knows what may have happened if the code was cracked. I know I worked hard for what I have to day and I know many natives who have as well. And after this, I won't generalise about Scott Peterson anymore as it is unfair to my fellow caucasians [/font]
Brenda @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:14 am
You know what? I don't think the Europeans came here with the idea: Hey, there are some indians there, lets kick some ass, and make them suffer. And that is what you make of it.
As long as you blame the white Europeans for everything that happened (of course, a lot of things were not that nice to say the least) and still blame the now living white Europeans (and ONLY them) for that, we will never agree.
I never said Indians didn't do a damned thing. I am not generalizing. You are. I judge people for who they are, what they say and what they do, not for the colour of their skin.
I have said it before, I don't care what colour anybody is. I like you or I don't. I don't like lazy whiners, who want everything to be done for them, and profit from society. I don't care if they are white, purple, pink, yellow, red, green, black or any colour.
DangerMouse DangerMouse:
I find Brenda's argument feeble and very ethnocentric. Sure the indians are modernized but cultures have always borrowed from others. The other day I saw these hunters all gussied up in camoflage outfits, ATVs etc, guns, out hunting. Oddly enough they call this recreation. But aren't they doing what the indians did 500 years ago but only in a modern form?
Wrong. Brenda's argument is neither "feeble" or "ethnocentric" - you just can't mount any kind of competent attack so you unilaterally dismissed it. Sorry, it still stands.
And Natives inventing hunting and fishing? What placement did you "learn" that from? Sorry, wrong again. Ohhand while we're correcting your litany of dummy musings, "recreational" pastimes isn't a Native invention either. And either is science, ATVs, the Internet, computers, the ENGLISH language, money or guns. I guess their assimilation is almost complete, huh?
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"If that's the case they are not recreationists but they are assimilated as indians and therefore the aboriginal culture is a live and well. Same goes for the javelin throwers, archery, kayakers, canoeist, fisherman etc etc. They are assimilated as indians!

it's all about perspective Brenda.
"Recreationalists" are Westerners that have free time and excess money due in large part to materialism (a Western concept) a mixed market economy (another Western idea) and an advanced nation-state (oops...another contribution of the West)
It is all about perspective and yours is governed by a woeful lack of education, an infantile culturally insecure bias and an utter inability to grasp contemporary Canada. Shuffle on, Troll, shuffle on.
DangerMouse DangerMouse:
[font=Comic Sans MS] No Im saying they "fought their assess off in the war for your freedom" Not going on your knees for that then your a real ass. What sarcasm! SHame on you especially before Remembrance Day. Many of those soldiers including ab vets died for you A$$hole. Im not asking you to kiss my ass either or Im not asking for anything. Like I said beofre if I can straighten out some warped minds then great![/font]
Get on your knees for a veteran? There isn't a veteran anywhere that would put up with that kind of arrogant nonsense. It isn't up to you to pass judgement.
BTW, clear your inbox.
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No Im saying they "fought their assess off in the war for your freedom" Not going on your knees for that then your a real ass. What sarcasm! SHame on you especially before Remembrance Day. Many of those soldiers including ab vets died for you A$$hole. Im not asking you to kiss my ass either or Im not asking for anything. Like I said beofre if I can straighten out some warped minds then great!
My Anishnabe WWII Veteran Grandfather would probably beat respect into you for making that comment. But maybe not, He sacrificed, along side his brothers (Canadians) so that people like you could spout off. He fought for freedoms for all, not only Canada, but for occupied Europe as well.
DangerMouse DangerMouse:
[font=Comic Sans MS] And when those Europeans got here they stunk like shit and piss and as I said there is no way of knowing whether the indians would've been better off or worse off you frikin dumb rednecks
The indians contributed alot like the aboriginal war vets who fought overseas for your stinkin redneck freedom so go f%$k yourselves you a@$$holes [/font]
Dude !!!
I really don't understand your hatred towards Rednecks
They are a cool people
Plus, you don't have to call people assholes.
Omega @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:01 pm
Brenda Brenda:
You know what? I don't think the Europeans came here with the idea: Hey, there are some indians there, lets kick some ass, and make them suffer. And that is what you make of it.
As long as you blame the white Europeans for everything that happened (of course, a lot of things were not that nice to say the least) and still blame the now living white Europeans (and ONLY them) for that, we will never agree.
I never said Indians didn't do a damned thing. I am not generalizing. You are. I judge people for who they are, what they say and what they do, not for the colour of their skin.
I have said it before, I don't care what colour anybody is. I like you or I don't. I don't like lazy whiners, who want everything to be done for them, and profit from society. I don't care if they are white, purple, pink, yellow, red, green, black or any colour.
You clearly know nothing of aborigional history in the Americas nor do you know of their present-day situation.