Death is a right...for criminals

So we really want to be like NAZI germany do we? DO WE WANT TO SEE A SWASTIKA SUPERIMPOSED ON THE MAPLE LEAF? GAS THEM ALL? THAT IS THE SINGULARLY MOST DISGUSTING REVOLTING THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!!!!

lol not just her though, the person who said we should get nazi gas chambers freaked me out a little too.

What a bunch of sissies...No, down right pussies! The death description was meant to be shocking. Perhaps getting the good word out that some of us in this society actually agree that the death penalty is a good way to curve some from violent crimes And how I end my posts will always consist of "Love Always" because I love life and always look at that glass as half full. I think of ways to improve life, not simply stand by and talk about how horrible it is some days. You can sure tell who the wimps are around here. Do yourselves a favour and take a man pill. I bet some of you here have never gone hunting and fed your family with the kill. No, most of you here are little school girls that go to he store and get you meat there...then complain how cruel it is to kill chickens and pigs....Get a male hormone won't you....

This following story is full of good news. Only real men need read.

One less magget in society to deal with..."Next!"

California executes 76-year-old inmate by lethal injection
After Supreme Court nixes appeal

Canadian Press

Tuesday, January 17, 2006

SAN QUENTIN, Calif. -- California executed its oldest condemned inmate early Tuesday for arranging a triple murder 25 years ago to silence witnesses in another killing.

Clarence Ray Allen, was pronounced dead by lethal injection at 12:38 a.m. at San Quentin State Prison, less than an hour after his 76th birthday ended at midnight. Allen, who was mostly blind and deaf, could not walk, and suffered a nearly fatal heart attack in September only to be revived and returned to death row, was assisted into the death chamber by four correctional officers shortly after midnight.

He received the first of three injections at 12:20 a.m.

He then was given an extra dose of potassium chloride, the lethal chemical that stops the heart, at 12:35 a.m., and died minutes later, according to Corrections Department spokeswoman Elaine Jennings.

Allen was the second oldest inmate executed in the United States since capital punishment resumed nearly 30 years ago, behind only a 77-year-old in Mississippi last month.

He was California's 13th condemned inmate executed since state legislators restored capital punishment in 1977 and the third in the last 12 months.

"Allen deserves capital punishment because he was already serving a life sentence for murder when he masterminded the murders of three innocent young people and conspired to attack the heart of our criminal justice system," state prosecutor Ward Campbell said.

Allen was serving his life term at Folsom State Prison when he gave a newly paroled convict a hit list of seven witnesses who helped put him behind bars. He wanted the seven killed so they could not testify during his appeals.

Allen was executed after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected a last-minute appeal that he was too old and too sick to be put to death without it constituting cruel and unusual punishment.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rejected similar arguments in denying Allen clemency Friday.

"These infirmities are not simply the result of the passage of time or of old age, as some would suggest, but result from prison authorities' deliberate neglect of his medical needs while in the state's custody," said Annette Carnegie, one of Allen's lawyers.

Love Always, :wink:

Samantha

Oh, Sam, level with us and tell us ya don't believe the kind of crap you're writing. Yer just trying to get to us that's civilized riled up. In any case, if yer just jestin', then you'se is ghoulish; if yer truly serious, then you'se just can't claim to be civilized. When ya take someone else's life, that's murder. State sanctioned murder is still...............well...............murder. So when the state murders on your behalf, you is a murderer and must therefore believe that you deserve like punishment.

C'mon, capital punishment is as archaic as it is barbaric. If those who advocate capital punishment spent as much energy promoting crime prevention as they do promoting punishments, t'would be a far better world to live in.

Capital punishment is the easy way to deal with criminals. While it may not be "civilized", is is very efficient at making sure the criminals will never commit any other crimes. However, if a modern, non-archaic country such as Canada is to maintain its high standard of human rights (as well as to cater to those blood-thirsty individuals), we must definitely start with altering the justice system. As Damien mentioned, raised sentences are a must. But then you get those who complain about paying for criminals' golf courses and cable TV.

The most effective and civilized way to deal with criminals is to send them to labor camps or sweat-shops, where they will exist virtually as slaves (being fed, clothed, sheltered, and forced to work without pay). Their production will hopefully pay off their costs of living, and still make a profit for the government. China does it to innocent peasants who don't deserve it. Why can't Canada do the same with guilty prisoners who do?

Suv, you qualify for poster person for why we as homeo sapiens can't advance and truly become civilized. If you are capable of doing what you advocate be done to prisoners, then you are a criminal yourself. Read my previous post. Our best bet for a better world is to create opportunity for the under-privileged at the get-go. With your mind set, I'd be spinning my wheels trying to explain in detail. I have no patience for perpetrators of human misery. I'll leave that to the mental health people who might be aboard.

Ok.. my 2 cents.....

The death penalty should not be used in the context of a civilized society.

Reason #1 - We are led to believe that we can solve problems by killing someone. When we focus on the death penalty, then we are meditating on killing. Very simply we should want to meditate on life and the value of living. I know this doesn't sound like punishment and recompense to victims. However, we should look to what would benefit us the most. Living is good.

Reason #2 - The death penalty is almost impossible to dispense fairly and perfectly. Here in America, it has been proven with dna testing that innocent people have been given the death penalty. Also, a wealthy person will never be given the death penalty, never. Women have been put to death in America, however, it is quite rare. Death penalties to blacks and poor people are handed out like cocaine at a hollywood party. In America, it is simply not justice.

Reason #3 - In America the death penalty is too expensive and the not administered in a timely manner. What does it mean to punish someone (execute them) 25 years after they have been convicted? Justice delayed is justice denied. Also, it cost well over $10 million to execute someone in America. Just the amount that taxpayers have to pay for the defendent's lawyers, and immediate court cost would eat up most of the $10 mil. For what it cost to execute someone, we could easily put them up in a nice jail cell for the rest of their lives. I believe that putting a convicted killer in solitary confinement for life, never to see the light of day, with no vistiors, would be adequate punishment. We could probably save a lot of money. I would rather the money go to a victims family than to a killer.

Reason #4 - Obviously, a mistaken execution cannot be reversed. However, someone later proved innocent could be released.

I find it hard to believe that someone will be a better person by attending a public execution. I would judge such a culture as weak. Such a society is saying that it cannot exist without the threat of violence against it's own citizens. The fight against evil must take place first within ourselves. If all evil is externalized, if we think we are defeating evil by executing people, then we have already lost the fight.

Q-Q, I am simply proposing a more productive method of imprisonment. You seem to be dead-set against any form of punishment for criminals, which I find preposterous. Sure, it's nice to try and rehabilitate criminals, but I doubt that rehabilitation is going to stop criminals from robbing banks better than hard labor.

You mention helping the under-privileged. In Canada, there are social programs already. Are you proposing that the government spend even more money to help these under-privileged? Or do you mean to say that the current system of social aid can be made more effective? If the under-privileged were all commiting the crimes, you would get homeless people robbing corner stores daily(and this is not the case). Some people, even when they get a second chance, just end up where they started.