Dion breaking up Canada...
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Clogeroo @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:55 pm
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Until they're addressed, yes. Just pointing out the gaping hole in your argument.
I said this before somewhere on here for your question.
Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:08 pm
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1. I feel we would be better to be more independent of each other politically.
How would stuff get done then?
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Well what "Canadian" aspects are there?
I'm starting to consider the anti-canuck medal...
Ya know, my grandfather(a former journalist for the CBC and WWII tailgunner) would smack you upside the head if were alive to hear that. He did not fight for his family, he did not fight for "La Belle Province", he fought for Canada. He fought for what Canada represented and stood for. He fought for everything that has made this country what it is today, while you stand there and tarnish it.
He fought alongside Westerners, Newfoundlanders, Maritimers and Quebecers who all shared the same idea. They fought for their country which they believed in. They believed that Canada had a history, it's own unique culture. They believed it has a past, present and future full of promise. That is what they fought to defend. Not British ideals, not for the glory of their provinces, but for the Nation that they came from, and the nation which over 42,000 never came back home to.
Whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, Canada is unique and different. It's too bad that you can't see that. There is something deep within us all that can unite us as Canadians; there is "something" in terms of what it means to be Canadian, and it seems that men from 60 years ago understood that.
Clogeroo @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:16 pm
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Ya know, my grandfather(a former journalist for the CBC and WWII tailgunner) would smack you upside the head if were alive to hear that. He did not fight for his family, he did not fight for "La Belle Province", he fought for Canada. He fought for what Canada represented and stood for. He fought for everything that has made this country what it is today, while you stand there and tarnish it.
He fought alongside Westerners, Newfoundlanders, Maritimers and Quebecers who all shared the same idea. They fought for their country which they believed in. They believed that Canada had a history, it's own unique culture. They believed it has a past, present and future full of promise. That is what they fought to defend. Not British ideals, not for the glory of their provinces, but for the Nation that they came from, and the nation which over 42,000 never came back home to.
Whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, Canada is unique and different. It's too bad that you can't see that. There is something deep within us all that can unite us as Canadians, and it seems that men from 60 years ago understood that.
He fought alongside Westerners, Newfoundlanders, Maritimers and Quebecers who all shared the same idea. They fought for their country which they believed in. They believed that Canada had a history, it's own unique culture. They believed it has a past, present and future full of promise. That is what they fought to defend. Not British ideals, not for the glory of their provinces, but for the Nation that they came from, and the nation which over 42,000 never came back home to.
Whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, Canada is unique and different. It's too bad that you can't see that. There is something deep within us all that can unite us as Canadians, and it seems that men from 60 years ago understood that.
Well what does Canada stand for then? Or what did it stood for? Or if we are unique and different why don't you tell me what a Canadian is then?
ridenrain @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:31 pm
Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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Ya know, my grandfather(a former journalist for the CBC and WWII tailgunner) would smack you upside the head if were alive to hear that. He did not fight for his family, he did not fight for "La Belle Province", he fought for Canada. He fought for what Canada represented and stood for. He fought for everything that has made this country what it is today, while you stand there and tarnish it.
He fought alongside Westerners, Newfoundlanders, Maritimers and Quebecers who all shared the same idea. They fought for their country which they believed in. They believed that Canada had a history, it's own unique culture. They believed it has a past, present and future full of promise. That is what they fought to defend. Not British ideals, not for the glory of their provinces, but for the Nation that they came from, and the nation which over 42,000 never came back home to.
Whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, Canada is unique and different. It's too bad that you can't see that. There is something deep within us all that can unite us as Canadians, and it seems that men from 60 years ago understood that.
He fought alongside Westerners, Newfoundlanders, Maritimers and Quebecers who all shared the same idea. They fought for their country which they believed in. They believed that Canada had a history, it's own unique culture. They believed it has a past, present and future full of promise. That is what they fought to defend. Not British ideals, not for the glory of their provinces, but for the Nation that they came from, and the nation which over 42,000 never came back home to.
Whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, Canada is unique and different. It's too bad that you can't see that. There is something deep within us all that can unite us as Canadians, and it seems that men from 60 years ago understood that.
Well what does Canada stand for then? Or what did it stood for? Or if we are unique and different why don't you tell me what a Canadian is then?
War time Canada was also definately not the Canada of today. Most families had direct or short roots back to Europe, America, and there was a definate sense of belonging to one's history, one's province and one's country. Wars have a way of unifying and cementing people together.. not so much with Quebec though. They were still pretty cautious about getting into another Euro war.
I believe these feelings would still be solid and secure today but the unwanted and enforced wave of multiculturalism made us want to be someone other than just Canadians. We celebrated our heratage so much we forgot much of our own.
For my $0.02, I want to see the federation updated because it's not working for the Canada of today.
Zipperfish @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:49 pm
Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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Until they're addressed, yes. Just pointing out the gaping hole in your argument.
I said this before somewhere on here for your question.
Yes, you (incorrectly) pointed out that the Clarity Act was an act that allows provinces to separate. You should read up on the Supreme Court decision regarding Quebec separation. Quite interesting. AS for self-determination--well, if Alberta wants to separate that would be "Alberta-determination" not "Self-determination."
PluggyRug @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:22 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108:
This "NDP will destroy the economy" shit is a scare tactic.
You obviously don't remember Ray days.
It only took that idiot 1 year to destroy the Ontario economy.
Luckily he's slithered over to the Liberal party, so there is a God.
hwacker @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:10 pm
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During his speech, Dion stressed his ties to Quebec, which he called a "cradle of civilization" in Canada.
Keep opening your yap dion.
Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:18 pm
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Keep opening your yap dion.
Remind me again where the earliest seat of Government and settlements in Canada were?
hwacker @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:22 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
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Keep opening your yap dion.
Remind me again where the earliest seat of Government and settlements in Canada were?
go read a book about the Government of Canada.
and fuck off.
Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:26 pm
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go read a book about the Government of Canada.
and fuck off.
and fuck off.
It says Quebec.
And nice. Good to see you can argue worth a damn...
hwacker @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:34 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
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go read a book about the Government of Canada.
and fuck off.
and fuck off.
It says Quebec.
And nice. Good to see you can argue worth a damn...
On June 10, 1791, the Constitutional Act was enacted in London and gave Canada its first parliamentary constitution. Containing 50 articles, the act brought the following changes:
The Province of Quebec was divided into two distinct provinces, Province of Lower Canada (present-day Quebec) and Province of Upper Canada (present-day Ontario).
Each province was given an elected Legislative Assembly, an appointed Legislative Council, and an appointed Executive Council.
Upper Canada was to be administered by a lieutenant governor appointed by the governor general, while Lower Canada was to be administered by a direct representative of the governor general.
The Legislative Councils were to be established with no fewer than seven members in Upper Canada and fifteen members in Lower Canada. The members were to hold their seat for life.
The Legislative Assembly was to be established with no less than sixteen members in Upper Canada and fifty members in Lower Canada.
The governor was given the power to appoint the speaker of the Legislative Assembly, to fix the time and place of the elections and to give or withhold assent to bills.
Provisions were made to allot clergy reserves to the Protestant churches in each province.
So fuck dion and his french BS.
Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:42 pm
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On June 10, 1791, the Constitutional Act was enacted in London and gave Canada its first parliamentary constitution. Containing 50 articles, the act brought the following changes:
We're talking about Canada here. You did not even answer my question. Remind me again where the earliest settlements/seats(representative. I understand that we were colonies, so our "Capital" was London/Paris) of government were?
hwacker @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:47 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
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On June 10, 1791, the Constitutional Act was enacted in London and gave Canada its first parliamentary constitution. Containing 50 articles, the act brought the following changes:
We're talking about Canada here. You did not even answer my question. Remind me again where the earliest settlements/seats(representative. I understand that we were colonies, so our "Capital" was London/Paris) of government were?
Go read a book I'm not your teacher, I know the facts. Oh and pass this on to Dion.
The French lost to Britain. We setup the government. Not QUEBEC.
Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:52 pm
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Go read a book I'm not your teacher, I know the facts. Oh and pass this on to Dion.
The French lost to Britain. We setup the government. Not QUEBEC.
The French lost to Britain. We setup the government. Not QUEBEC.
Nice dodge.
True, the English set up our government, after they tore down the French one.
hwacker @ Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:00 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
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Go read a book I'm not your teacher, I know the facts. Oh and pass this on to Dion.
The French lost to Britain. We setup the government. Not QUEBEC.
The French lost to Britain. We setup the government. Not QUEBEC.
Nice dodge.
True, the English set up our government, after they tore down the French one.
Tore down meaning killed the french into surrender.
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