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Like the UN?

   

Your all for Canadian unity huh? but in the same breath you call french people frogs, .... your an idiot.

   

lack of regional representation. While each region within Canada has distinct cultures, they are nowhere near as different as general Canadian culture and say... Islam. I don't want 50 million Muslims or 800 million buddists having more say than me over what we do with my backyard.

Again, same can be said about the regions of Canada, but inbetween our regions we really arn't that different, and it would all eventually go towards benifitting us as a whole. Canada as a nation within this world government could be ass raped of all her resources tomorrow, and aside from the water issue, the world wouldn't even notice. We would just be one more tree fallen in the forest that is the worlds resources.

Did you even bother to read my posts after that? I call french separatists frogs. If they want to be distinct, might aswell associate the distinct people with something I hate as much as them.

French Canadiens on the other hand, I love them. And I'd be as pissed of at anyone who calls them frogs as much as you and others are at me for calling the separatists frogs.

   

Then explain what they did in BC? We had the nations fastest growing economies with so much work we were bring in people from Mexico (which we are doing again by the way), yet the NDP managed to drive us to the brink of a economic death. Face it Hurley, Socialism doesn't work and is the party of the lazy and slightly retarded.

   

Something like the UN perhaps. Just the basic concept. It could be democratic, each individual on the planet get's one vote, the planet would be devided into their current States forming a single representative body.

   

Very good. Although we never were granted "independence" just political sovereignty and self-government. We still share the same head of state with the United Kingdom. But if our debt is some how erased because we obtain sovereignty then if Western Canada forms it's own country what would we owe Canada then? I guess nothing at least that is what you just said, isn’t that all the more reason to leave then if our debt to Canada would be removed?

   

Define economic growth. Define economic death. 'Cause I've found a table on BC's GDP, "the economy," and it shows pretty much uninterrupted growth from 1981 to 2005.

Table

   

One thing to support the country, its another to conitinually give money (transfer payments) To provinces labeled as have not provinces for decades. One of these provinces has a population of 8 million and are still have not province. How many more decades will it take for them to get their shit together then ? Or maybe some of them are thinking why bother ALberta and Ontario will take care of us.

If this is what your talking about, lets see how long we can sustain this before people start revolting to do so wouldn't but unpatriotic but self-preserving because you refused to get out of this "dont worry be happy" dreamworld that dont want to assign responsibility to anyone.

Im not saying we should stop helping other provinces, but if your continually giving for decades and nothing changes, doesn't that raise any concern to both of you? Or is it all dont worry be happy bs because you haven't quite hasn't grasp the politics of the country yet and how it works.

   

I suppose it would. But that isn't the honourable thing to do is it? When you leave/left home, you didn't leave planning on abandoning your parents did you? Same reason why the west shouldn't leave Canada on the premise that we would no longer be in dept to it.

BTW - Clogeroo, I love debating with you, this is like a game of chess. Have to know what the other person is going to say many moves before they do.

   

I agree. I think part of the problem is that we have been giving to much cash to Quebec, as well as constantly interfere with business affairs, such as making Boeing do 60% of their purchases there.

transfer payments should be based on net loss per person, and have that number reduced per year after ten years.

So pulling numbers out of the air for Quebec, if they have a -$800 million budget, thats 100 dollars lost per person. transfer payments, i don't know how it works now, should be willing to cover half that cost, so 50 dollars per person. thats 400 million dollars in federal transfer cash. after 10 years, they payments would be reduced percentage wise, this is to prevent the provinces from freeloading and not doing anything to help themselves. so year 11 would be -10%, so that original 50 would become 45, year 12 -20%, so 40 dollars, and so on. eventually, by year 20, there would be no payments unless the province can somehow prove that it needs the money for economic development.

think it would work?

   

So now according to you the racial slur "frogs" means French separatist only and not loyal french Canadians ?

Nice try Tex,

That folks is what we call backpedaling.

   

Well, it sounds fine, but here is the part where the Quebec PR machine is startin up again to steal more money from the "stupid anglos", but this time with the help of leader of France.....

   

No problem with Dion having French citizenship there.

   

I certainly don't expect him to say he won't support it without seeing it, like he has already.

   

But all children leave home don't they? Right now we are more in the same house with our parents. I don't think leaving home would be abandoning them but it is just the inevitable that when your children get older and feel more responsible they want to take on new responsibilities and assert their independence. So by becoming responsible of our own province how is that really wrong? I don’t think it is totally going against Canada it is just taking control of our lives.

Look at Australia and New Zealand two countries, which share a great deal with one another politically, culturally, and in every fashion yet are two countries with two parliaments. Why can’t we have an arrangement like that with Canada? Australians and New Zealanders are also allowed to study, work, and visit each other’s countries as if they are the same citizens as well. Just because we become our own country would not mean all the positive elements of our relationship would have to end. We could have the best of both worlds if we wanted too.

   

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