Do We Want To Keep Following The Neoliberal Model?

I wish C-10 had been put into effect before COVID came along. If it had I bet that the situation in Alberta would be a fraction of how disastrous it is right now, something that spiraled completely out of control thanks to the liars and outright lunatics on social media. If what these people have done to the rest of us with their outright malice doesn't count as yelling out fire in a crowded theatre then I don't know what else could be just as bad.

Free speech used solely to cause damage isn't free speech at all. It's nothing but verbal criminality. :evil:

JaredMilne,
That sentence does not mean what you claim it to mean. If any court were to agree with you, that would mean the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is meaningless. Your argument demonstrates my point: that Canada is under attack. This is a concerted attempt to destroy our country.

Ok, you call news reports from mainstream media "rumours". Fine, here's a report, website is the NCBI, a US government agency. Interesting, although media news reports said 1,000 patients, this report says 3,737 patients, of which 3,119 were given hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). Does that make you feel better?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7315163/

This does have to be dealt with. A former director of Emergency Services in Alberta posted a video last March (2020) saying they had procedures and protocols for pandemic. He saw 4 pandemics in his lifetime before COVID. He would NEVER do what they're doing. Long term care homes should have been locked down last March. That means staff cannot leave the building. If staff work at more than one facility, then tell them they can't any more. At least not during the pandemic. That's a great way of spreading disease from one facility to another. And if they're concerned they can't see family then do something like 30 days on / 30 days off. I would do it differently: my father was a construction worker before he met my mother. He would work remote work sites 6 weeks on / 2 weeks off. They would work long hours 7 days per week for 6 weeks, then the employer would pay for an airplane ticket to fly them back home for 2 weeks. If the work site was too far to drive. Do that. And as the retired Alberta director said, if that means you have to pay staff more, just do it.

He said you don't lock-down healthy people.

I have criticized the Manitoba government. I think I already said this, but we had achieved zero cases. ZERO!!! Then they opened the borders. That was stupid! The government asked for public input, so I did write my recommendation, and their government website gave a list of ministers my response was sent to. So they knew, they have no excuse. I said lock down the border hard! Do not open the border, instead open the economy inside the province. At that time all 3 territories also had zero cases. I said create a virus free zone, with very strict border controls. As neighbouring areas become virus free, we expand the virus free zone. Free movement inside the virus free zone, but no crossing in or out.

Manitoba opened the province to movie productions. Cast and crew from the US did not have to quarantine, did not even have to self-isolate. The producer need only sign a form stating all cast & crew had self-isolated wherever they came from. Do you realize how expensive it is for all cast & crew of a movie to sit around doing nothing for 14 days? They'll never do that! Even if they did, they're exposed at the airport they depart, on the aircraft, there's no direct flights from California to Winnipeg so that requires a lay-over in Chicago O'Hare, then another flight. They could easily catch the disease along the way. But again, the producer will sign the form but no one will self-isolate. They'll "stay home" but will go out for a coffee, will go out to shop for groceries, will do various things of daily life. That means they didn't self-isolate. At all. California had more than 30,000 active cases at that time.

Government also allowed travel to all western provinces, and return without self-isolating. Hutterites held a convention in Alberta. They came back with the disease, created a major wave through south-western Manitoba.

That was stupid! I could post conspiracy theories like they want the disease, but frankly I believe the reason is much simpler. They're stupid. They pander to rich business owners. Movie producers, tourism companies, and airlines wanted their business to re-open. Who cares how many people die. The government just pandered to rich donors who contributed significant money to their election campaign.

We need to stop this disease now! NOW!!! What government is doing will not accomplish that.

Far too many civil liberties have been restricted. Give government authority to do this for more than a year, they won't want to give up that authority. If you claim they can only have this authority under emergency conditions, they'll create a perpetual emergency. I could cite examples from the United States. Their response to 9/11 was extreme and caused more damage than 9/11 itself. We have the serious danger this is happening right here right now. I'm highly disappointed by your headspace.

Studies by the CIA showed that if you tell a lie consistently, and tell people this is a danger that threatens their life, and do so for 8 months or more, then they get stuck. You could show the public all sorts of logical arguments or show them all sorts of evidence, but they will never believe it. They will believe the initial lie. So I'm seriously concerned about YOUR headspace.

Here's a test: COVID-19 started in they city of Wuhan China. Wuhan is the location of China's only level 4 Microbiology Laboratory (virus lab). Do you still believe the virus came from nature?