Does Dion allready think he is Prime Minister ?
ryan29 @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:25 pm
Dion lists demands ahead of Montebello summit
Updated Fri. Aug. 17 2007 2:19 PM ET
Canadian Press
OTTAWA -- Liberal Leader Stephane Dion says the prime minister should make it clear that Canada will soon withdraw from its current combat role in Afghanistan when he meets with U.S. President George W. Bush next week.
"The prime minister should notify to NATO, the Americans and the government of Afghanistan that our combat mission in Kandahar will effectively end in February 2009,'' Dion told a news conference Friday.
"The more we wait, the less we are a good partner for our allies.''
Prime Minister Stephen Harper will meet with Bush and Mexican President Felipe Calderon for two days at the beginning of next week for a summit in Montebello, Que.
Harper will also hold separate, private talks with Calderon on Wednesday.
The prime minister has made it clear this summer that Canada's combat role in Afghanistan will end in February 2009. Initially, he said no decision on the future of the mission would be made without a parliamentary consensus.
Last month, he said NATO's failure to persuade other countries to take on combat duties in southern Afghanistan made it impossible for Canada to consider extending its fighting role there.
The PM should also use the summit to insist that no new trade deals be negotiated that would allow fresh water to be removed from Canada, Dion added.
"Prime Minister Harper must advise President Bush that Canada will not negotiate the bulk removal of water from any drainage basins in Canada.''
As well, Ottawa should insist that the United States crack down on gun smuggling into Canada, he said.
"It is estimated that more than half of gun crimes committed in Canada's major cities are with guns smuggled into our country from the United States,'' Dion said.
"Instead of weakening gun control in Canada, Mr. Harper should strengthen the control of illegal trafficking of guns across our border.''
Dion also insisted that Harper demand that terror suspect Omar Khadr be removed from the U.S. military detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and transferred to the United States to be tried in a legitimate court.
Khadr is among 14 so-called "high-value'' detainees who were declared by the Pentagon earlier this month as enemy combatants.
The decision means Khadr and the others will be held indefinitely at the detention centre and put on trial for war crimes in a military system mired in legal challenges and hampered by lengthy delays.
The trial system has been called into question by recent court rulings, including a decision by one military judge to throw out a case against Khadr over the wording of the "enemy combatant'' designation.
Khadr, now 20, was captured when he was a 15 years old during a firefight with U.S. forces in Afghanistan in 2002.
He was charged with homicide for allegedly throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. army medic.
Khadr must be given the same legal protection from Canada that would be offered to any other Canadian citizen, including help from Canada's consular officials in the U.S., said Dion.
ryan29 @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:26 pm
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
BluesBud @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:31 pm
ryan29 ryan29:
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
Nothing out of the ordinary. Happens all the time.
ridenrain @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:37 pm
Does that mean that Dion: the monkey prince, is calling Chertien and Martin's humanitarian mission a mistake?
How about this one:
One voter demands Dion decide if he's French or Canadian.
Till then, do not believe you have the moral right to advise any full Canadian.
ryan29 @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:37 pm
BluesBud BluesBud:
ryan29 ryan29:
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
Nothing out of the ordinary. Happens all the time.
true in the sense opposition leaders hold news conferences before events but rarely do they make demands and talk like they expect the government to act .
Dions not prime minister of canada so him making demands doesn't sound right to me .
critising the government is one thing or puting forward new ideas for policy but making demands honestly .
Freakinoldguy @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:37 pm
$1:
"The more we wait, the less we are a good partner for our allies.''
WTF kind of fuzzy logic is that Mr Dion???????????????????????
bootlegga @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:43 pm
ryan29 ryan29:
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
I recall Harper practically demanding we go to Iraq when he sat where Dion is now...like BluesBud said, it happens all the time. Usually, the PM just ignores the opposition's demands, unless they are a good idea, then they re-package them as their own and do it...
2Cdo @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:49 pm
ryan29 ryan29:
Dion lists demands ahead of Montebello summit
Updated Fri. Aug. 17 2007 2:19 PM ET
Canadian Press
OTTAWA -- Liberal Leader Stephane Dion says the prime minister should make it clear that Canada will soon withdraw from its current combat role in Afghanistan when he meets with U.S. President George W. Bush next week.
"The prime minister should notify to NATO, the Americans and the government of Afghanistan that our combat mission in Kandahar will effectively end in February 2009,'' Dion told a news conference Friday.
"The more we wait, the less we are a good partner for our allies.''
Prime Minister Stephen Harper will meet with Bush and Mexican President Felipe Calderon for two days at the beginning of next week for a summit in Montebello, Que.
Harper will also hold separate, private talks with Calderon on Wednesday.
The prime minister has made it clear this summer that Canada's combat role in Afghanistan will end in February 2009. Initially, he said no decision on the future of the mission would be made without a parliamentary consensus.
Last month, he said NATO's failure to persuade other countries to take on combat duties in southern Afghanistan made it impossible for Canada to consider extending its fighting role there.
The PM should also use the summit to insist that no new trade deals be negotiated that would allow fresh water to be removed from Canada, Dion added.
"Prime Minister Harper must advise President Bush that Canada will not negotiate the bulk removal of water from any drainage basins in Canada.''
As well, Ottawa should insist that the United States crack down on gun smuggling into Canada, he said.
"It is estimated that more than half of gun crimes committed in Canada's major cities are with guns smuggled into our country from the United States,'' Dion said.
"Instead of weakening gun control in Canada, Mr. Harper should strengthen the control of illegal trafficking of guns across our border.''
Dion also insisted that Harper demand that terror suspect Omar Khadr be removed from the U.S. military detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and transferred to the United States to be tried in a legitimate court.
Khadr is among 14 so-called "high-value'' detainees who were declared by the Pentagon earlier this month as enemy combatants.
The decision means Khadr and the others will be held indefinitely at the detention centre and put on trial for war crimes in a military system mired in legal challenges and hampered by lengthy delays.
The trial system has been called into question by recent court rulings, including a decision by one military judge to throw out a case against Khadr over the wording of the "enemy combatant'' designation.
Khadr, now 20, was captured when he was a 15 years old during a firefight with U.S. forces in Afghanistan in 2002.
He was charged with homicide for allegedly throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. army medic.
Khadr must be given the same legal protection from Canada that would be offered to any other Canadian citizen, including help from Canada's consular officials in the U.S., said Dion.
Updated Fri. Aug. 17 2007 2:19 PM ET
Canadian Press
OTTAWA -- Liberal Leader Stephane Dion says the prime minister should make it clear that Canada will soon withdraw from its current combat role in Afghanistan when he meets with U.S. President George W. Bush next week.
"The prime minister should notify to NATO, the Americans and the government of Afghanistan that our combat mission in Kandahar will effectively end in February 2009,'' Dion told a news conference Friday.
"The more we wait, the less we are a good partner for our allies.''
Prime Minister Stephen Harper will meet with Bush and Mexican President Felipe Calderon for two days at the beginning of next week for a summit in Montebello, Que.
Harper will also hold separate, private talks with Calderon on Wednesday.
The prime minister has made it clear this summer that Canada's combat role in Afghanistan will end in February 2009. Initially, he said no decision on the future of the mission would be made without a parliamentary consensus.
Last month, he said NATO's failure to persuade other countries to take on combat duties in southern Afghanistan made it impossible for Canada to consider extending its fighting role there.
The PM should also use the summit to insist that no new trade deals be negotiated that would allow fresh water to be removed from Canada, Dion added.
"Prime Minister Harper must advise President Bush that Canada will not negotiate the bulk removal of water from any drainage basins in Canada.''
As well, Ottawa should insist that the United States crack down on gun smuggling into Canada, he said.
"It is estimated that more than half of gun crimes committed in Canada's major cities are with guns smuggled into our country from the United States,'' Dion said.
"Instead of weakening gun control in Canada, Mr. Harper should strengthen the control of illegal trafficking of guns across our border.''
Dion also insisted that Harper demand that terror suspect Omar Khadr be removed from the U.S. military detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and transferred to the United States to be tried in a legitimate court.
Khadr is among 14 so-called "high-value'' detainees who were declared by the Pentagon earlier this month as enemy combatants.
The decision means Khadr and the others will be held indefinitely at the detention centre and put on trial for war crimes in a military system mired in legal challenges and hampered by lengthy delays.
The trial system has been called into question by recent court rulings, including a decision by one military judge to throw out a case against Khadr over the wording of the "enemy combatant'' designation.
Khadr, now 20, was captured when he was a 15 years old during a firefight with U.S. forces in Afghanistan in 2002.
He was charged with homicide for allegedly throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. army medic.
Khadr must be given the same legal protection from Canada that would be offered to any other Canadian citizen, including help from Canada's consular officials in the U.S., said Dion.
So smuggled guns in Canada is who's responsibiltiy? Dion blames both Canada and the US. I thought it was OUR responsibility to secure our own borders, or is he expressing a desire to join with the US on amalgamating border security under a North American umbrella.
Good thing he won't be PM anytime soon.
ryan29 @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:35 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
ryan29 ryan29:
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
I recall Harper practically demanding we go to Iraq when he sat where Dion is now...like BluesBud said, it happens all the time. Usually, the PM just ignores the opposition's demands, unless they are a good idea, then they re-package them as their own and do it...
Harper did do some press conferences and so has Layton but when they do press conferences it more to get there message across and inform canadians.
Dion is making Demands like he is in some position of power .
BluesBud @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:46 pm
ryan29 ryan29:
bootlegga bootlegga:
ryan29 ryan29:
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
I recall Harper practically demanding we go to Iraq when he sat where Dion is now...like BluesBud said, it happens all the time. Usually, the PM just ignores the opposition's demands, unless they are a good idea, then they re-package them as their own and do it...
Harper did do some press conferences and so has Layton but when they do press conferences it more to get there message across and inform canadians.
Dion is making Demands like he is in some position of power .
Just from your knee jerk Liberal hating point of view. It is no different.
BTW he is in a position of power.....he is the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.
Streaker @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:05 pm
It's a good thing for the Liberals that Dion is beginning to act more Prime Ministerial.
He has a knack for being underestimated. Quebec separatists found that out the hard way.
ryan29 @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:19 pm
Streaker Streaker:
It's a good thing for the Liberals that Dion is beginning to act more Prime Ministerial.
He has a knack for being underestimated. Quebec separatists found that out the hard way.
He has a knack for being underestimated. Quebec separatists found that out the hard way.
he is starting to remind me of Chretien and Dalton Mcguinty . what an awful combination .
Pimpbrewski @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:23 pm
Streaker Streaker:
It's a good thing for the Liberals that Dion is beginning to act more Prime Ministerial.
He has a knack for being underestimated. Quebec separatists found that out the hard way.
He has a knack for being underestimated. Quebec separatists found that out the hard way.
I liked what Stephane Dion did concerning Federalism within Quebec.
But, am not particularly pleased with him as a potential PM. He is an intellectual. He should have remained as an adviser within the party.
For goodness sake, he can barely speak English. And his French is beaucoup trop sophistiqué
Scrappy @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:57 pm
ryan29 ryan29:
bootlegga bootlegga:
ryan29 ryan29:
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
I recall Harper practically demanding we go to Iraq when he sat where Dion is now...like BluesBud said, it happens all the time. Usually, the PM just ignores the opposition's demands, unless they are a good idea, then they re-package them as their own and do it...
Harper did do some press conferences and so has Layton but when they do press conferences it more to get there message across and inform canadians.
Dion is making Demands like he is in some position of power .
Sadly ryan 62 un-elected Senators are also acting like they were elected as they hold this country hostage to ensure that new legislation is Liberalized (aka pandering and appeasement clauses are necessary lest we offend the criminal element in a minority group). So I'm not surprised that unabashed arrogance is being displayed from Dion, it's the sense of entitlement to lead this country the left have.
ryan29 @ Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:13 pm
Scrappy Scrappy:
ryan29 ryan29:
bootlegga bootlegga:
ryan29 ryan29:
honestly since when does an opposition leader make a list of demands before an international summit .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
doesn't he know the liberals only have 100 seats ? and aren't in power anymore .
I recall Harper practically demanding we go to Iraq when he sat where Dion is now...like BluesBud said, it happens all the time. Usually, the PM just ignores the opposition's demands, unless they are a good idea, then they re-package them as their own and do it...
Harper did do some press conferences and so has Layton but when they do press conferences it more to get there message across and inform canadians.
Dion is making Demands like he is in some position of power .
Sadly ryan 62 un-elected Senators are also acting like they were elected as they hold this country hostage to ensure that new legislation is Liberalized (aka pandering and appeasement clauses are necessary lest we offend the criminal element in a minority group). So I'm not surprised that unabashed arrogance is being displayed from Dion, it's the sense of entitlement to lead this country the left have.
the current situation in the senate is definity a problem as well . the liberal senate is not doing us any good and really only serving liberal interests.
liberals have a sense of intitlement , you could say .