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I think it's a sad state of affairs in this country when it seems like all other things in Canada, in the eyes of alot of people, it's only happening if it happens east of the Manitoba boarder.

A strong seperatist movement has been born in the west. The subject of both Alberta and Sask seperation is on the forefront of the minds of people in both provinces. Suggestions on how the provinces should leave, as seperate entiites, or as a block. Should that block also include BC and Manitoba? To make matters worse the Liberal government, whose promises of a larger place for Western Canada, and to spend more time and attention on our provinces have constantly gone by the way side.

The general attitude that is portrayed to people in the west is that Ontario, and Ottawa could care less if we left. We are constantly treated like a child who got stragiht A's on our report cards but all attention is heaped onto Quebec who improved from a C- to a C but still refuses to study to improve its grades.

It is generally beilived by seperatists west of Manitoba that the four Western provinces with their nation resources, both commodity based such as oil, fish, wheat, and power, and our tourism industries, could be a viable basis for a strong economy. To make matters worse they could be right. But still its "Go away Alberta, were dealing with Quebec."

This general attitude from the east towards us only fuels the fire of the seperatists who's attitude is that of an ignored child: "They'll miss me when I'm gone, I'm running away to the circus."

This attitude also leaves Western Federalists to fend for ourselves to try and stop this movement all on our own, it would be hard enough with Ottawa's support, but it's going to next to impossible with out them.

If this sect of our population, which is gaining enough momentum to feild a candidate in every riding in the Alberta provincial election, and elect 4 represenatives in the Sask Legislature, isn't halted, the then my freinds we could see the carving up of our country within our life times.

My Canada includes all provinces in confederation. How about yours?

   

I'am starting to have my doubts

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btw...you're a western separist arn't you?

   

Holy crap, you told someone to put down the bottle last night when I was accused of that. Your turn this time man. But just in case people are unclear on this let me once agian say......................

I AM A FEDERALIST!!!!!! I BELIEVE IN THE NATION OF CANADA, NOT THE LOSELY CONNECTED REPUBLIC OF FORMER CANADIAN PROVINCES!!!!!!!!

   

Bull fucking shit dude..I know a rat when I smell one.

You are the one that always starts these lame ass "I love Canada" threads.
and my "Canada includes all of you"..fuck you..
All you are trying to do is to stir up shit.Like I said before "fuck you"
You are a western separatist..I hold you in the same regard as quebec seperatist...fuck U..

Vive le Canada.

   

First off, Canada is a confederation in name only. In reality, it is a federation of provinces and if you REALLY want this part of the world to stand tall and be strong, let separation among provinces take its place and THEN will Canada have a great opportunity of forming and becoming a TRUE confederated entity made up of equals.

To believe that Canadian unity is solely dependent on Québec's choice of remaining in the federation or not is pure BS. Take Québec out of the equation right now and what you will be left with is a great divide between western and eastern Canadian provinces.

   

First off, Canada is a confederation in name only. In reality, it is a federation of provinces and if you REALLY want this part of the world to stand tall and be strong, let separation among provinces take its place and THEN will Canada have a great opportunity of forming and becoming a TRUE confederated entity made up of equals.

To believe that Canadian unity is solely dependent on Québec's choice of remaining in the federation or not is pure BS. Take Québec out of the equation right now and what you will be left with is a great divide between western and eastern Canadian provinces.

   

Actually, if Quebec left we would quickly see that there is much less that divides East and West than we previously thought.

   

Probably not. Quebec goes then probably everything else goes. Some provinces and territories join the states, and some make new countries, and it will all be pointless because America will not be interested in all these new states, and we become third world countries.

   

Woooo, zat boy got LIT UP!!

   

The reason I start these thread 797 is not to stir up the shit, it is too bring Western Seperation to the forefront, in the same way that Quebec seperation is. To put it into the minds of easterners that the problems that this country faces are not just limited to Ontario, Quebec, and the east coast.

If Quebec was to seperate then the west would not be far behind and we would see our country carved into about 5 little peices that reforms itself into a loose republic of alied nations. It is important to keep this country together as one peice, and while the movement in Quebec is obvioulsy light years ahead of the movement out here, it's gaining momentum and if people are not focused on trying to stop it. it will be as big if not bigger than the Quebec movement within 10 years.

And by the way................I have a maple leaf tatooed on my body!!! I have a permanant flag of who I am, and where I come from on myself, question my FUCKING LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY NOW!

   

I agree with your predilection. I to have a damned Maple Leaf tattoo plus 14 years military service to a corrupt and increasingly irrelevant country. Sentiment for what once was and romanticism for what could be will only bind the colonies of 'Outer' to Upper and Lower Canada for so long.

The axiomatic federalists, incapable to justify their brand of egocentric national unity, have to resort to charges of "separatist" or more profane colloquies to try to divert attention from the real issues.

Re-Confederation and/or the rejection of Ontario/Eastern Imperialism is not Treason!

   

Take Quebec out of the picture and this would heavily weaken Ottawa but Ottawa will still wants to be the belly button of Canada. Question is how quickly will we see Alberta and the West recieving heavy attention bypassing Quebec. How messy will the divorce become? Alberta's got OIL and Canada will have less central votes. Quebec will still have to cater to Ottawa while pandering to America to gain and maintain recognition of thier independance while not becoming an American state ( as quickly as the ROC) . Canada will be hobbled and the America the shark have already prepared for this. Why do you think Alberta has been doing so great? Where do you think the OIL is headed off to and why all the hard feelings and feeling of seperation. Canada without Quebec votes makes Canada a different place.

   

That some Canadian colonials are beginning to question their place and the role of their province in Confederation hardly belies an American conspiracy of piece-meal absorption. Do you really think this is a more plausible explanation for a growing discontent with Confederation than the actual failures of Confederation itself?

   

No but it's a great carrot.

   

... to ignore that it doesn't have a presence, and has no influence would be folly. Do I blame America for it? No. Mainly our greedy, thieving politicians.

   

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