Canada Kicks Ass
i read the paper today.....

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Indelible @ Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:53 pm

i read some articles in the paper today, so i decided to make a thread about them....

they all fall under the politics subject, but on various things.

$1:
Bloc making no promises
By STEPHANIE RUBEC, OTTAWA BUREAU


OTTAWA -- Separatist leader Gilles Duceppe says the new federal government will have to come begging for his party's support in the Commons after June 28. Duceppe, whose party is expected to hold the balance of power in the event of a minority government, said he's not about to reach out to either the Conservatives or Liberals before or after the vote.

When asked whether he would take the first step to cut a deal, Duceppe said, "I don't have any calls to make on election night."

He said his party will only support Quebec's priorities and vote down everything else. That means the Bloc will veto any move to curtail gay rights, support the missile defence shield or tear up the Kyoto accord.


wow, this is bittersweet for canada. bitter b/c separatists will actually have a say, and might have a better chance of splitting, but sweet b/c if it is a minority, niether the liberals or the conservatives will have a definite say...

the bloc and a minority?

damnit i can't find the otehr article....fuck that pisses me off......

   



thirdEye @ Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:16 pm

What's the difference? Quebec already runs the country anyways.

   



-Mario- @ Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:17 am

Ever since mulroney has been PM along with lucien bouchard as his 2nd in command, Quebec keeps getting most, if not all the goodies. Jean also sent a bunch of money into Quebec. And now THIS... Sure is unfair to the rest of the country. I don't think that they should allow a party representing a single province. I think that it just stinks, and I am from the dam place. The Maritimes are most of the times getting the big shaft. For example, the Canadian government is spending millions of dollars just to keeps the St-Lawrence seaway opened every winter. What if the Quebec government has for law that every thing coming thru Quebec has to be shipped thru them . Make them pay for the seaway. As Canadians lets save our money, upgrade the Halifax shipyard, and send every thing thru train.

-M-

   



Rev_Blair @ Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:49 am

I don't know what it's like out there Mario, but Mulroney and Martin killed rail service out here as part of their war on farmers. Harper is continuing that war by protecting US corporate meat-packers from being fined for their crimes.

We have a 3-season port up in Churchill too. That could see a lot use, especially with the Conservative plan to increase global warming.

   



-Mario- @ Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:55 pm

Here in the Annapolis Valley, all the railroads were pulled out and installed in the northen Quebec during the LaGrande Dam project.
So, now, there is no railroads between Yarmouth and Windsor.

-M-

   



Rev_Blair @ Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:26 am

We've been losing tracks, but what's really been killing us is that the trains won't stop in the small towns anymore. The grain elevators are disappearing. Farmers now have to truck their grain to inland terminals. That raises costs for the farmers because they need to truck the grain. The increased truck traffic, much of it on gravel roads and secondary highways, destroys the roads, raising costs for the provinces and rural municipalities.

   



-Mario- @ Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:22 am

That is weird... I don't know if CN is private now, but if there is money to be made... why won't they stop? I heard that the small grain elevators were disappearing but I thought that it was because they were being replaced by super-ones.

-M-

   



Rev_Blair @ Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:27 am

Yes CN has been privatised. It's run by a consortium out of Chicago now. The Canadian government has vwery little control over where they stop.

The inland terminals are the "super" elevators you were thinking of. Where every town used to have its own elevator, often three or four, now they put up on large one in the largest town around and everybody has to go to it.

That does away with the elevator jobs in the small towns, then the businesses start to close. It's killing the small towns. I was talking to a teacher in the town where my mother lives. He bought a house for $700.00 (no that's not a typo). People are actually buying houses there and moving them to the town that got the inland terminal, leaving a valueless empty lot behind them. That is the reality of what happens when the elevator disappears.

   



-Mario- @ Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:43 am

Is there an airforce base near those cheap houses? I have to move in a couple years. No but seriously, I think that is too bad for the locals. I believe in job displacement, but first you need a new industry. All those grain elevator could house good businesses.

-M-

   



Rev_Blair @ Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:33 pm

That town is a long way from an air force base. The same kind of thing is happening around Moose Jaw though. You could do worse than to consider a move to Saskatchewan. My wife and I seriously considering retiring in one of these places one day...most likely here in Manitoba, but possibly in Saskatchewan. That depends more on my mother-in-law's health more than anything else.

These towns do need other industry, but what is there? The industries naturally gravitate to the larger towns.

There is some hope. A cabinet maker took over the store in my mother's town. It was sitting vacant and he needed a big space. He got it for the price of paying the taxes once a year.

He doesn't live there though. He commutes. He also doesn't provide steady work or training either. He does hire day labour sometimes, but that is hardly a replacement for the store economically. The store closed after the elevators went.

   



Indelible @ Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:01 pm

$1:
The inland terminals are the "super" elevators you were thinking of. Where every town used to have its own elevator, often three or four, now they put up on large one in the largest town around and everybody has to go to it.


that happened to the town i grew up in too. there used to be 4 wooden grain elevators in raymond, alberta. there also used to be 4 at wilson siding, which is between raymond and lethbridge, about half way. lethbridge, obviously, is the nearest "city" although it is only 70 000 ppl.

anyway, they tore down the elevators in raymond, they might have kept 1 for posterity's sake....but i haven't been down there in a long time. they also tore down all the elevators at wilson siding, and built a great huge cement grain handling facility.

if i remember correctly, tho, there are still wooden elevators being used inside the city of lethbridge, as well as coaldale, and magrath.

   



Indelible @ Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:12 pm

get a load of this crap....

$1:
Thu, August 12, 2004

The buck stops here

By PAUL JACKSON

I am starting to shop and my spend my money in a politically aggressively way. And I'm not talking about making donations to a political party, or buying political memorabilia.

Let me explain: Before buying a product, I look to see if it is made in Canada. If not, the search is on to find a product that is made in Canada. My rationale?

When Canadians buy the Sun and keep me in a job, I should try to keep them in jobs, too.

Incidentally, and this may seem strange coming from someone viewed as a right-wing conservative activist, I also look for the union-made label on products. That way I know for certain that the employees making those products have been fairly paid.

These days, we keep hearing corporate CEOs talking about "increasing shareholder value" -- a euphemism for cutting costs -- but I wish they'd talk more about "employee value" because whether its a manufacturing plant or a restaurant, it's the employees who are the mainstay.

If I can't buy a product made in Canada, I ensure it is made in the U.S., Britain or some other democratic nation. Never do I buy a product made in a country that is a dictatorship, or uses low-cost or child labour.

This, by the way, naturally means I would never do business with Prime Minister Paul Martin's Canada Steamship Lines, which not only flies foreign flags on many of its vessels but refuses to pay the crew of those vessels Canadian wages. Yup, we have a real piece of work for a PM, don't we?

Products from mainland Communist China are out, because this nation has a terrible human rights record.

That said, I do buy products made in the former British Crown colony of Hong Kong, and also in democratic Taiwan (Republic of China).

I do not buy products made in India, but after learning Pakistan is co-operating with the U.S. fully in the war on terrorism, it is now on my positive list.

I also boycott so-called entertainers trying to undermine President George W. Bush and his war against terrorism. Rocker Bruce Springsteen is the latest wailer to join the list of anti-Bush Lib-Lefters, and so has a band called Pearl Jam.


the rest of the column here:
the calgary sun

   



sk1d @ Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:43 pm

The guy's partly right on the issue about ceo trying to increase shareholder wealth. For some reason north america has this notion, the only way for a company to be successful is to increase shareholder wealth. In europe and japan and the rest of the world, a successful company maximizes stakeholder wealth. Stakeholders are everyone from the ceo's and the shareholders to the frontline employees, suppliers, environment, and the community. All of those have to be balanced out. If compnaies here did that, think about others for a change instead of their wallets, the world would be very different.

   



Rev_Blair @ Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:49 am

He's right about watching what you buy too. I try for union made or a company that has a good record of treating its employees well. I do not buy things from companies that have a tradition of union busting (Wal-Mart eg.).

As for which country it comes from...I've been shying away from a lot of US-made goods, especially if they have a lot to do with the oil industry (plastics etc.)

The thing is that you never know where the materials that make up a product come from. That shirt may be made in Canada, but where was the cloth made?

   



RoyalHighlander @ Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:32 am

Indelible Indelible:
$1:
The inland terminals are the "super" elevators you were thinking of. Where every town used to have its own elevator, often three or four, now they put up on large one in the largest town around and everybody has to go to it.


if i remember correctly, tho, there are still wooden elevators being used inside the city of lethbridge, as well as coaldale, and magrath.

edmonton has also soem of the older ones... 75 St near the Yellowhead is one..

   



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