I sez it today, Canada sez it tomorrow!
Always4Iggy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:38 pm
27-Jan-2007, 21:10:58
Always4iggy Always4iggy:
Sincerely, I pity you guys, sadly waiting for your defeat. Dion is making full preparations to replace Harper.
Conservatives are genetically programmed to be opposition, and that is what they can do.
And that dumbass Harper is already speaking like an opposition leader.
Conservatives are genetically programmed to be opposition, and that is what they can do.
And that dumbass Harper is already speaking like an opposition leader.
Two days later, it is out in the news! Read today's (29-Jan-2007) Globe and Mail
In particular, compare what I wrote with what Liberal leaders actually said.
ONE,
Always4iggy Always4iggy:
Sincerely, I pity you guys, sadly waiting for your defeat.
G&M G&M:
“They're running scared,” Michael Ignatieff, the deputy Liberal leader, said in an interview.
TWO,
Always4iggy Always4iggy:
Dion is making full preparations to replace Harper.
G&M G&M:
The Liberals said the negative-advertising campaign shows the Harper Conservatives are desperate because Mr. Dion is considered strong on the environment, a top-of-mind public worry today.
AAAND THREE!
Always4iggy Always4iggy:
Conservatives are genetically programmed to be opposition, and that is what they can do.
And that dumbass Harper is already speaking like an opposition leader.
And that dumbass Harper is already speaking like an opposition leader.
G&M G&M:
Michael Ignatieff, the deputy Liberal leader, said in an interview.
“They govern like an opposition. Instead of ... doing their job, they spend their time attacking the previous administration.”
“They govern like an opposition. Instead of ... doing their job, they spend their time attacking the previous administration.”
Read the full article:
$1:
Wary Tories rip Dion in TV ad blitz
'They're running scared,' Ignatieff says of attempt to discredit Liberal Leader
STEVEN CHASE
From Monday's Globe and Mail
OTTAWA — With polls still denying them a shot at a majority government, the Harper Conservatives are launching a TV attack-ad campaign aimed at discrediting Stéphane Dion and erasing any appetite the Liberals might have for an early election.
It's a bid to buy more time in office by eroding support for the Liberals and thus preventing Mr. Dion's party from working to topple the Tory government when Parliament votes on the 2007 budget, expected to be tabled on March 20.
Three English-language TV ads begin airing Monday morning, attacking Mr. Dion's environmental credentials, portraying him as indecisive and trying to link him to former Liberal government scandals.
The Liberals said the negative-advertising campaign shows the Harper Conservatives are desperate because Mr. Dion is considered strong on the environment, a top-of-mind public worry today.
They predict the effort will backfire.
“They're running scared,” Michael Ignatieff, the deputy Liberal leader, said in an interview.
“They govern like an opposition. Instead of ... doing their job, they spend their time attacking the previous administration.”
Canadians will see through the negative messaging Mr. Dion said. “Harper has nothing positive to say about his own record,” he told CBC Newsworld.
“Being unable to say anything positive about [himself], he wants to spend all this money to try to attack me in a very negative way.”
Strategic Counsel pollster Allan Gregg said the negative ads may prove effective for the Tories in reducing faith in Mr. Dion's environmental credentials, even if they damage the political system.
“That said, first, they [negative ads] communicate extremely well. People know exactly what they are saying,” Mr. Gregg told CTV's Question Period.
“Secondly, ... it feeds into both the general cynicism and the belief that no political party has got a particularly good agenda on the environment. It's probably smart politics. I don't know if it's good public policy.”
The average federal minority government in Canada lasts a little less than 18 months and today, at roughly the 12-month mark, Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he has no interest in an early election.
“What would be the point of an election, especially if it would just result in another minority anyway,” Mr. Harper told The Canadian Press.
Mr. Dion, elected Liberal Leader late last year, is still a relative unknown to many Canadians and the Tories appear eager to capitalize on that by defining him themselves.
The English-language TV spots will air on various shows for the next few weeks, from the Feb. 4 Super Bowl to specialty channels in a bid to blanket the country with the message.
“We want to demonstrate the only thing green about Stéphane Dion is his inexperience as a leader,” said Jason Kenney, Secretary of State for Multiculturalism.
“You'll be seeing these ads on shows a lot of people watch. We're just looking for high exposure to our message.”
The Tories say they'll release a second wave of advertising that includes French-language TV spots aimed at Quebec in the near future.
Mr. Kenney refused to discuss the Tory budget for this negative-advertising campaign, saying only that his party will spend “as much as it takes to drive our message home.”
He said the Tories don't want an election any time soon, not surprising in light of polls showing the Tories and Liberals are nearly tied for voter support. A January Strategic Counsel survey pegged Liberal support at 35 per cent compared with 31 per cent for the Tories.
The ads that start running this morning are very simple spots that combine footage from last fall's Liberal leadership race with screens of printed text and a voiceover, using criticism from Mr. Dion's rivals to drive home the message.
They play on the fact that Mr. Dion served for nearly a decade in the cabinets of the two former prime ministers, noting that greenhouse-gas emissions jumped rather than fell during the 1990s.
One ad features Mr. Ignatieff criticizing Mr. Dion on the party's environmental record during a Liberal leadership debate. “We didn't get it done,” Mr. Ignatieff says. Ken Dryden, another former leadership rival, adds: “What stopped us? Why didn't we do better?”
The ad concludes by saying: “The Liberals had 13 years to get it down. Let's not go back.”
Another ad shows Mr. Dion lashing out at Mr. Ignatieff's criticism during a leadership debate, saying: “This is unfair ... do you think it's easy to make priorities?” A voiceover says: “Leaders set priorities. Leaders get things done. Stéphane Dion is not a leader.”
A third ad keeps repeating a shot of Mr. Dion saying “Liberals, we need to go back to power as soon as possible” with references to various scandals that dogged the former Liberal prime ministers he served.
'They're running scared,' Ignatieff says of attempt to discredit Liberal Leader
STEVEN CHASE
From Monday's Globe and Mail
OTTAWA — With polls still denying them a shot at a majority government, the Harper Conservatives are launching a TV attack-ad campaign aimed at discrediting Stéphane Dion and erasing any appetite the Liberals might have for an early election.
It's a bid to buy more time in office by eroding support for the Liberals and thus preventing Mr. Dion's party from working to topple the Tory government when Parliament votes on the 2007 budget, expected to be tabled on March 20.
Three English-language TV ads begin airing Monday morning, attacking Mr. Dion's environmental credentials, portraying him as indecisive and trying to link him to former Liberal government scandals.
The Liberals said the negative-advertising campaign shows the Harper Conservatives are desperate because Mr. Dion is considered strong on the environment, a top-of-mind public worry today.
They predict the effort will backfire.
“They're running scared,” Michael Ignatieff, the deputy Liberal leader, said in an interview.
“They govern like an opposition. Instead of ... doing their job, they spend their time attacking the previous administration.”
Canadians will see through the negative messaging Mr. Dion said. “Harper has nothing positive to say about his own record,” he told CBC Newsworld.
“Being unable to say anything positive about [himself], he wants to spend all this money to try to attack me in a very negative way.”
Strategic Counsel pollster Allan Gregg said the negative ads may prove effective for the Tories in reducing faith in Mr. Dion's environmental credentials, even if they damage the political system.
“That said, first, they [negative ads] communicate extremely well. People know exactly what they are saying,” Mr. Gregg told CTV's Question Period.
“Secondly, ... it feeds into both the general cynicism and the belief that no political party has got a particularly good agenda on the environment. It's probably smart politics. I don't know if it's good public policy.”
The average federal minority government in Canada lasts a little less than 18 months and today, at roughly the 12-month mark, Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he has no interest in an early election.
“What would be the point of an election, especially if it would just result in another minority anyway,” Mr. Harper told The Canadian Press.
Mr. Dion, elected Liberal Leader late last year, is still a relative unknown to many Canadians and the Tories appear eager to capitalize on that by defining him themselves.
The English-language TV spots will air on various shows for the next few weeks, from the Feb. 4 Super Bowl to specialty channels in a bid to blanket the country with the message.
“We want to demonstrate the only thing green about Stéphane Dion is his inexperience as a leader,” said Jason Kenney, Secretary of State for Multiculturalism.
“You'll be seeing these ads on shows a lot of people watch. We're just looking for high exposure to our message.”
The Tories say they'll release a second wave of advertising that includes French-language TV spots aimed at Quebec in the near future.
Mr. Kenney refused to discuss the Tory budget for this negative-advertising campaign, saying only that his party will spend “as much as it takes to drive our message home.”
He said the Tories don't want an election any time soon, not surprising in light of polls showing the Tories and Liberals are nearly tied for voter support. A January Strategic Counsel survey pegged Liberal support at 35 per cent compared with 31 per cent for the Tories.
The ads that start running this morning are very simple spots that combine footage from last fall's Liberal leadership race with screens of printed text and a voiceover, using criticism from Mr. Dion's rivals to drive home the message.
They play on the fact that Mr. Dion served for nearly a decade in the cabinets of the two former prime ministers, noting that greenhouse-gas emissions jumped rather than fell during the 1990s.
One ad features Mr. Ignatieff criticizing Mr. Dion on the party's environmental record during a Liberal leadership debate. “We didn't get it done,” Mr. Ignatieff says. Ken Dryden, another former leadership rival, adds: “What stopped us? Why didn't we do better?”
The ad concludes by saying: “The Liberals had 13 years to get it down. Let's not go back.”
Another ad shows Mr. Dion lashing out at Mr. Ignatieff's criticism during a leadership debate, saying: “This is unfair ... do you think it's easy to make priorities?” A voiceover says: “Leaders set priorities. Leaders get things done. Stéphane Dion is not a leader.”
A third ad keeps repeating a shot of Mr. Dion saying “Liberals, we need to go back to power as soon as possible” with references to various scandals that dogged the former Liberal prime ministers he served.
hwacker @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:39 pm
Oh Shite, who left the barn door open ?
Always4Iggy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:41 pm
hwacker hwacker:
Oh Shite, who left the barn door open ?
Oops! Did your sexy sister get away!
Scrappy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:42 pm
Like Dion I have trouble understanding Iggy, I don't read "HER" posts anymore. Did I miss anything Hwacker?
Always4Iggy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:05 pm
Scrappy Scrappy:
Like Dion I have trouble understanding Iggy, I don't read "HER" posts anymore. Did I miss anything Hwacker?
No, unless YOUR sexy sister was kept in the barn with hwackers sexy sister!
Scrappy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:12 pm
I have four sisters, and I wouldn't let you ten inches near one of them without breaking both your kneecaps. But then again my sisters aren't gay so you are out of luck their Iggy dear. Did ya get a run in your panty hose or are you on your period? It's obvious that you are female, I've never seen a man melt down as fast as you do. I think you should change your name to "Melt down Molly". It suits your childish behavior.
Always4Iggy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:22 pm
Scrappy Scrappy:
I have four sisters, and I wouldn't let you ten inches near one of them without breaking both your kneecaps.
Neither would hwacker. He keeps her for himself, in the barn. I can see you are built the same way, but must you publicly admit it?
ridenrain @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:29 pm
Repeat after me... "We didn't get it done"
Always4Iggy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:32 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Repeat after me... "We didn't get it done"
So what?
The time was not right. Now it is. Harper cannot escape.
camerontech @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:10 pm
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
ridenrain ridenrain:
Repeat after me... "We didn't get it done"
So what?
The time was not right. Now it is. Harper cannot escape.
So what?
the time was not right?
is that the best you can do....if the time wasn't right then what makes it right now? maybe the fact that you're in the opposition and not the leading government has something to do with it...?
Always4Iggy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:38 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Repeat after me... "We didn't get it done"
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
So what?
The time was not right. Now it is. Harper cannot escape.
The time was not right. Now it is. Harper cannot escape.
camerontech camerontech:
is that the best you can do....if the time wasn't right then what makes it right now? maybe the fact that you're in the opposition and not the leading government has something to do with it...?
Rubbish, camerontech. You are being very shortsighted if you see this as a Liberal-Conservative clash.
The time is now right because the voters want it. Harper and his wife's consort John Baird are fuc*king stupid.
Repeat after me: 'The voters want it, the voters get it'.
PluggyRug @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:09 pm
hwacker hwacker:
Oh Shite, who left the barn door open ?
He is the barn door, but the hinges are rusty.
Thats why we hear lots of squeaking.
Always4Iggy @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:11 pm
hwacker hwacker:
Oh Shite, who left the barn door open ?
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
He is the barn door, but the hinges are rusty.
Thats why we hear lots of squeaking.
Thats why we hear lots of squeaking.
The squeaking was actually hwacker's sister getting pleased!
PluggyRug @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:15 pm
Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:
hwacker hwacker:
Oh Shite, who left the barn door open ?
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
He is the barn door, but the hinges are rusty.
Thats why we hear lots of squeaking.
Thats why we hear lots of squeaking.
The squeaking was actually hwacker's sister getting pleased!
Squeak!
ridenrain @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:59 pm
Come on Iggy, this isn't fair
"Do you think it's easy to make policy?"
bwhahaha!!