Is John tory the federal conservative saviour?
thekingofthejungle @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:59 pm
I think John Tory has a chance to lead the conservative party to a majority unlike the present Bush neocon puppet named Mr. Harper. With Mr. Harper as leader, I am pretty sure that the progressive voters here in this country will only give the conservative party support in the mid-30% range AT MOST. This is not majority territory and I think any good conservative will know what Mr. Harper's leadership as PM has been mediocre and dictatoral (he is shoving bills through parliament without working with the opposition. Reminds me of Hitler when he was just starting out).
Do you think Mr. "Bush-loving" Harper should step down in favour of a more progressive and stronger leader John Tory to better the chances of a federal conservative majority?
xerxes @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:02 pm
Considering how badly he shot himself in the foot in the Ontario election, don't get your hopes up.
Mustang1 @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:06 pm
You need Ontario for a federal majority and it's been demonstrated that Tory has ZERO understanding of this particular constituency thinks. He's a political loser.
Bodah @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:50 pm
thekingofthejungle thekingofthejungle:
I think John Tory has a chance to lead the conservative party to a majority unlike the present Bush neocon puppet named Mr. Harper. With Mr. Harper as leader, I am pretty sure that the progressive voters here in this country will only give the conservative party support in the mid-30% range AT MOST. This is not majority territory and I think any good conservative will know what Mr. Harper's leadership as PM has been mediocre and dictatoral (he is shoving bills through parliament without working with the opposition. Reminds me of Hitler when he was just starting out).
Do you think Mr. "Bush-loving" Harper should step down in favour of a more progressive and stronger leader John Tory to better the chances of a federal conservative majority?
Do you think Mr. "Bush-loving" Harper should step down in favour of a more progressive and stronger leader John Tory to better the chances of a federal conservative majority?
Can you give me examples of how Harper is "bush loving" and I'm not talking about his wifes bush.
As far as Tory running for the federal conservatives ? You wish.... nah I think will stick with our supreme commander thank you, he's doing a hell of a job.
thekingofthejungle thekingofthejungle:
Mr. Harper's leadership as PM has been mediocre and dictatoral (he is shoving bills through parliament without working with the opposition. Reminds me of Hitler when he was just starting out).
I think opposition parties are working with him , need an example ? Look at the last throne speech and the liberals response to it.
Bruce_the_vii @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:53 pm
I don't think John Tory has been mentioned for a federal role and probably because he does speak french or at least not well enough. It's true he's a loser but that's all that's to be had these days. I think he has potential but I don't see him being a sharp cookie anytime soon.
Toro @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:55 pm
Is this a joke?
Tricks @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:11 pm
John Tory... Progressive?
sasquatch2 @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:35 pm
Tricks Posted:
$1:
John Tory... Progressive?
Well ya first have to divine the source of that post.
Picture a raving LIBRANO partisan who daily rends his clothes and smears himself with ashes in his total despair that the LIBRANOs are not even a viable opposition yet alone in charge of graft and corruption.
DerbyX @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:56 pm
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Tricks Posted:
Well ya first have to divine the source of that post.
Picture a raving LIBRANO partisan who daily rends his clothes and smears himself with ashes in his total despair that the LIBRANOs are not even a viable opposition yet alone in charge of graft and corruption.
$1:
John Tory... Progressive?
Well ya first have to divine the source of that post.
Picture a raving LIBRANO partisan who daily rends his clothes and smears himself with ashes in his total despair that the LIBRANOs are not even a viable opposition yet alone in charge of graft and corruption.
Says the ape. Yes, you sir are an ape.
Tricks (certainly not a Liberal (poor guy)) posts a question mark concerning Tory, a man whos dismal election performance was witnessed first hand by him and you post pathetic anti-Liberal crying.
In fact this whole thread is nothing less then someone who thinks John would make a better CPC leader then Stephen, which is pretty much internal politics, and you throw out your anti-Liberal buzz words.
Mustang1 @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:01 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Tricks Posted:
Well ya first have to divine the source of that post.
Picture a raving LIBRANO partisan who daily rends his clothes and smears himself with ashes in his total despair that the LIBRANOs are not even a viable opposition yet alone in charge of graft and corruption.
$1:
John Tory... Progressive?
Well ya first have to divine the source of that post.
Picture a raving LIBRANO partisan who daily rends his clothes and smears himself with ashes in his total despair that the LIBRANOs are not even a viable opposition yet alone in charge of graft and corruption.
Says the ape. Yes, you sir are an ape.
Tricks (certainly not a Liberal (poor guy)) posts a question mark concerning Tory, a man whos dismal election performance was witnessed first hand by him and you post pathetic anti-Liberal crying.
In fact this whole thread is nothing less then someone who thinks John would make a better CPC leader then Stephen, which is pretty much internal politics, and you throw out your anti-Liberal buzz words.
Remember, Derb, he is a self-professed non-partisan observer.
DerbyX @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:05 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1:
DerbyX DerbyX:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Tricks Posted:
Well ya first have to divine the source of that post.
Picture a raving LIBRANO partisan who daily rends his clothes and smears himself with ashes in his total despair that the LIBRANOs are not even a viable opposition yet alone in charge of graft and corruption.
$1:
John Tory... Progressive?
Well ya first have to divine the source of that post.
Picture a raving LIBRANO partisan who daily rends his clothes and smears himself with ashes in his total despair that the LIBRANOs are not even a viable opposition yet alone in charge of graft and corruption.
Says the ape. Yes, you sir are an ape.
Tricks (certainly not a Liberal (poor guy)) posts a question mark concerning Tory, a man whos dismal election performance was witnessed first hand by him and you post pathetic anti-Liberal crying.
In fact this whole thread is nothing less then someone who thinks John would make a better CPC leader then Stephen, which is pretty much internal politics, and you throw out your anti-Liberal buzz words.
Remember, Derb, he is a self-professed non-partisan observer.
That and an honest and accurate historian with an eye for recounting the true facts about what happened.
Unlike the lies we spread in painstakingly researched and peer-reviewed historical text books and source material.
ryan29 @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:55 pm
thekingofthejungle thekingofthejungle:
I think John Tory has a chance to lead the conservative party to a majority unlike the present Bush neocon puppet named Mr. Harper. With Mr. Harper as leader, I am pretty sure that the progressive voters here in this country will only give the conservative party support in the mid-30% range AT MOST. This is not majority territory and I think any good conservative will know what Mr. Harper's leadership as PM has been mediocre and dictatoral (he is shoving bills through parliament without working with the opposition. Reminds me of Hitler when he was just starting out).
Do you think Mr. "Bush-loving" Harper should step down in favour of a more progressive and stronger leader John Tory to better the chances of a federal conservative majority?
Do you think Mr. "Bush-loving" Harper should step down in favour of a more progressive and stronger leader John Tory to better the chances of a federal conservative majority?
is this thread a joke , honestly ? why on earth would the successful federal conservatives want the unsuccessful john tory as there leader when harper is allready prime minister ?
or is this idea of tory as leader wishful thinking from some liberal ?
DerbyX @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:04 pm
ryan29 ryan29:
thekingofthejungle thekingofthejungle:
I think John Tory has a chance to lead the conservative party to a majority unlike the present Bush neocon puppet named Mr. Harper. With Mr. Harper as leader, I am pretty sure that the progressive voters here in this country will only give the conservative party support in the mid-30% range AT MOST. This is not majority territory and I think any good conservative will know what Mr. Harper's leadership as PM has been mediocre and dictatoral (he is shoving bills through parliament without working with the opposition. Reminds me of Hitler when he was just starting out).
Do you think Mr. "Bush-loving" Harper should step down in favour of a more progressive and stronger leader John Tory to better the chances of a federal conservative majority?
Do you think Mr. "Bush-loving" Harper should step down in favour of a more progressive and stronger leader John Tory to better the chances of a federal conservative majority?
is this thread a joke , honestly ? why on earth would the successful federal conservatives want the unsuccessful john tory as there leader when harper is allready prime minister ?
or is this idea of tory as leader wishful thinking from some liberal ?
Does your stupidity know no bounds? I guess the fact that he might be a CPC supporter who recognizes that despite every possible bad thing going for the Libs and everytbhing good going for the Cons they are still well below majority territory.
How about the fact that you yourself fucking blamed everybody but John Tory for the PC's dismal showing yet somehow now consider him a loser.
He even states that he feels Harper isn't making it into majority territory as a reason and the fcat that Tory had pretty decent personal approval ratings (better the Dalton) and Harper isn't shaking the apples loose in that dept makes for a good argument.
Perhaps he is an NDP.
WBenson @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:37 pm
Does anyone really still think Harper is Bush's "puppet"? I think Harper was savvy enough to jump that ship a long time ago.
DerbyX @ Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:40 pm
WBenson WBenson:
Does anyone really still think Harper is Bush's "puppet"? I think Harper was savvy enough to jump that ship a long time ago.
Harper is as much a puppet of bush as the Liberals are corrupt.