Is This The Best The Libs Can Come Up With?
The Liberals must really be struggling to find fault with the Harper government if this is the best shot they can come up with.
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Gays denied visas: MP
By KATHLEEN HARRIS
OTTAWA -- Liberal MPs are accusing the Conservative government of denying Canadian visitor visas to athletes from around the globe because they're gay.
Quebec MP Raymonde Folco said some applicants have been flatly denied entry and another 250 international participants have been waiting months for word on applications to attend the July 29-Aug. 5 Outgames sports competitions and human rights conference in Montreal. She suggested they may have been denied entry based on sexual orientation, and is demanding Citizenship and Immigration Minister Monte Solberg explain.
"I would like to be generous and say there may be another common denominator, but I don't see it," Folco said.
The former Liberal government invested about $2 million to help host the event, but Folco fears the participants are not welcome to the Conservative government.
Solberg's spokesman Lesley Harmer insisted there is no discrimination based on sexual orientation or race.
As if the immigration dept gives a shit if someone's gay or straight.
This has to be one of the most desperate attempts to get noticed that I've ever seen.
Obviously, this MP is trying to remind gays that the CPC is going to force them all to wear a pink triangle, re-introduce homosexuality to the Criminal Code, and send "soldiers with guns" to clean out Toronto's Church Street neighbourhood.
That leaves the question;
What are the Liberals going to scare the gay community with when the same sex marriage vote has been held and defeated and Harper declares it a dead issue?
As long as Liberals are wasting time coming up with shit like this, I think Conservative rule will be long and happy!
You gotta hand it to the lieberals. They know full well that the bureaucrats are influenced very little by the sitting Minister. That each department has a life of its own and the true power broker is the Deputy Minister. With this knowledge they know the media will try to spin it as anti-Harper and will leave the reader with the impression that back bench Conservative MPs are out there rifling through the paperwork stamping reject on suspect applications.
I don’t agree with it but you have to admit the lieberals know the system and know how to work it.
RUEZ @ Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:17 pm
I didn't realize the government was directly involved in approving visa's. Don't they have government employees that do that?
Indeed they do. The entire decision-making process ultimately lies with bureaucrats -- most of the current bunch were hired by the Liberals.
Hardy @ Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:32 am
The decision-making process is frequently overruled in many countries.
"NEW YORK -- The American Civil Liberties Union and the New York Civil Liberties Union today released new documents that indicate the government is broadly interpreting and using a controversial Patriot Act power known as the 'ideological exclusion' provision to block people from entering the country. The ACLU is concerned that the provision is increasingly being used to target foreign scholars and others whose politics the government disfavors."
Full story at: http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/26 ... 60712.html
At least it beats the "Harper is chubby" or "he hates our poppies" type of stories. I find this unbelieveable because I doubt that there is a "sexual preference" check box on the visa form.
MC is right, just another "secret agenda" scare.
MotorCycleBoy MotorCycleBoy:
As if the immigration dept gives a shit if someone's gay or straight.
Actually people can use their sexual orientation to claim refugee status if they are in Canada. If their home country can be shown to be harshly discriminatory towards homosexuals, they can apply for and receive refugee status.
So, if the government doesn't want this to happen it would make sense that they would refuse them entry, since once they are here they can apply for refugee status.
Hardy Hardy:
The decision-making process is frequently overruled in many countries.
"NEW YORK -- The American Civil Liberties Union and the New York Civil Liberties Union today released new documents that indicate the government is broadly interpreting and using a controversial Patriot Act power known as the 'ideological exclusion' provision to block people from entering the country. The ACLU is concerned that the provision is increasingly being used to target foreign scholars and others whose politics the government disfavors."
Full story at:
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/26 ... 60712.html
And how many of these foreign scholars whose politics the government disfavours
go around ranting about how the US is the worlds prime evil and needs to be destroyed or converted to islam.
If the US was truly trying to destroy academic oposition they would just have to arrest Noam Chomsky and Norman Finklestein
VitaminC VitaminC:
Actually people can use their sexual orientation to claim refugee status if they are in Canada. If their home country can be shown to be harshly discriminatory towards homosexuals, they can apply for and receive refugee status.
So, if the government doesn't want this to happen it would make sense that they would refuse them entry, since once they are here they can apply for refugee status.
You may want to get better acquained with the practices of Canada's immigration department.
The decisions regarding visas and immigration are made by the bureaucrats in the department's employ, and are usually eventually "rubber-stamped" by the minister himself.
The minister is, of course, responsible for setting administrative policy. But administrative policy has little (more like nothing) to do with deciding who gets into the country and who doesn't.
This has little to do with the Conservative government, and more to do with government bureaucrats, the bulk of whom were hired by -- you guessed it -- the Liberal party.
If I were as paranoid as all those people who are trying to kill me, I would suggest that there has been some collusion in this case between the Liberal party and those who they hired. But because I cannot support this with evidence, I'm going to dismiss it.
Hardy @ Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:41 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
I find this unbelieveable because I doubt that there is a "sexual preference" check box on the visa form.
It would be reasonable to think that "Coming to compete in Outgames" amounts to a sexual preference checkbox.
Then I suppose the Liberals must have hired some bureaucrats who are hostile to gays.